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Very little of "humanity" has any value

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heady mediation liquid oxygen
  12/27/21
we just animals, worthless as an ant or dog or cow
Boyish Senate Patrolman
  12/27/21
TT, is stepping on an ant and moral equivalent of killing yo...
Splenetic heaven
  12/27/21
no, the ant has more value
Boyish Senate Patrolman
  12/27/21
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free-loading nudist trump supporter main people
  12/27/21
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Mainlining the $ecret truth of the univer$e
  07/04/24
Seek Christ both of you
bistre self-absorbed brethren mood
  12/27/21
? A religion that just worshipped a Jew by using a holiday s...
heady mediation liquid oxygen
  12/27/21
That's the idea good goyim
bistre self-absorbed brethren mood
  12/27/21
Pagan scholarship DEBUNKING your blase assertion https://...
mewling charcoal puppy
  12/27/21
Ljl fuck religion and the pagans always get mad
heady mediation liquid oxygen
  12/27/21
how do you "value" humanity? value comes internall...
duck-like locale
  12/27/21
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heady mediation liquid oxygen
  12/27/21
Well all those things have passed ..never had an opportunity...
heady mediation liquid oxygen
  12/27/21
you've provided incalculable value to humanity through your ...
duck-like locale
  12/27/21
Thanks but I really have to step it up? Do you think anyone ...
heady mediation liquid oxygen
  12/27/21
you're preaching to the choir when it comes to exposing frau...
duck-like locale
  12/27/21
?
heady mediation liquid oxygen
  12/27/21
Value is a normative question and so it is only ever cashed ...
cowardly friendly grandma
  12/27/21
nothing has value. everything is flame
contagious henna meetinghouse
  12/27/21
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Mainlining the $ecret truth of the univer$e
  07/05/24


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Date: December 27th, 2021 10:53 AM
Author: heady mediation liquid oxygen



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Date: December 27th, 2021 11:18 AM
Author: Boyish Senate Patrolman

we just animals, worthless as an ant or dog or cow

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Date: December 27th, 2021 11:27 AM
Author: Splenetic heaven

TT, is stepping on an ant and moral equivalent of killing you? Why or why not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4994434&forum_id=2#43682630)



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Date: December 27th, 2021 11:49 AM
Author: Boyish Senate Patrolman

no, the ant has more value

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Date: December 27th, 2021 11:53 AM
Author: free-loading nudist trump supporter main people



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Date: July 4th, 2024 10:04 AM
Author: Mainlining the $ecret truth of the univer$e (We finally beat Medicare)



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Date: December 27th, 2021 11:19 AM
Author: bistre self-absorbed brethren mood

Seek Christ both of you

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Date: December 27th, 2021 11:22 AM
Author: heady mediation liquid oxygen

? A religion that just worshipped a Jew by using a holiday stolen from the pagans who celebrate 🥳 yule ??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4994434&forum_id=2#43682598)



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Date: December 27th, 2021 11:24 AM
Author: bistre self-absorbed brethren mood

That's the idea good goyim

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Date: December 27th, 2021 11:27 AM
Author: mewling charcoal puppy

Pagan scholarship DEBUNKING your blase assertion

https://ecauldron.com/forum/holidays-and-festivals/christmas-wasn't-stolen-from-the-pagans/?PHPSESSID=f81k0dnt9ianr9p6qan5qbng5a

+++The pagans of northern Europe celebrated (and continue to celebrate) Yule at that time, long before Jesus was born and most of present-day Christmas customs, including carols, Christmas tree etc. have, beyond any doubt, origins in Celtic or Germanic winter solstice customs.+++

Here again we have a "yes, but." You've failed to provide an important connecting point: Did Christians have contact with northern Europeans at the time of the setting of the date for Christmas? In fact, no. Christmas was set near the date of Yule before Christians were evangelizing northern Europeans or, according to extant evidence, had any meaningful contact with that culture. (And again, you've failed to provide support for the assertion that coincidence in time equals shared origins.)

Furthermore, the "present-day Christmas customs" you cite are NOT universal Christmas customs by any stretch of the imagination. They are NORTHERN EUROPEAN Christmas customs. Christianity has always engaged in what's called "inculturation" in theological jargon - the acceptance of aspects of local culture into church customs. For example, in Hawai'i, hula is used in church celebrations because of its importance in local culture.

Others can talk about carols better, but carols-qua-carols didn't appear until the middle ages, so I'm not really sure how you're claiming Northern European pagans fit into that. Many Christian hymns are set to older tunes, but again, that was common cultural custom. And most of the tunes are medieval themselves.

As for trees, I have a terrifically boring revelation for you: Since the second century, churches (formal separate buildings or informal house churches) were "required" (in quotes because the authority structure was quite informal until the 10th century or so) to have green plants in the church as an expression of creation and new life. For all services, not just special ones. You can go into any Catholic Church today for a service and there will always be plants except on Good Friday. (And if not, they ought to be reported to the bishop; it's liturgical law and they're breaking it.)

If you're in Northern Europe, and it's late December, and you're required to have greenery in your church, what are you going to use?

Oh, right - fir trees, evergreen boughs, and holly.

Which is probably, more or less, the same theological justification for their use in pagan winter celebrations.

The reason Christmas trees are so popular as a symbol of the season is because Hallmark is a company coming out of a Northern European-derived culture that maintains those Christmas traditions. Prior to 1950, Italians would have looked at you like you had two heads if you tried to give them Christmas trees. (Well, there are evergreens in Italy too and some were used as Christmas decor, but not exclusively because there's other greenery available during that season, so there's not the same strong association of Christmas with firs. Lots of cultures prefer Christmas lilies. In Northern Europe, lilies had to be confined to Easter.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4994434&forum_id=2#43682634)



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Date: December 27th, 2021 11:30 AM
Author: heady mediation liquid oxygen

Ljl fuck religion and the pagans always get mad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4994434&forum_id=2#43682660)



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Date: December 27th, 2021 11:24 AM
Author: duck-like locale

how do you "value" humanity? value comes internally, not what you produce to others. existing, having a virtuous life, raising a family... that's all the "value" a person really needs. it doesn't matter if you earn you living providing no value. that's just a means to and end.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4994434&forum_id=2#43682608)



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Date: December 27th, 2021 11:25 AM
Author: heady mediation liquid oxygen

180

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Date: December 27th, 2021 11:25 AM
Author: heady mediation liquid oxygen

Well all those things have passed ..never had an opportunity because of toxicity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4994434&forum_id=2#43682621)



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Date: December 27th, 2021 11:32 AM
Author: duck-like locale

you've provided incalculable value to humanity through your poasting already, bboom.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4994434&forum_id=2#43682672)



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Date: December 27th, 2021 11:38 AM
Author: heady mediation liquid oxygen

Thanks but I really have to step it up? Do you think anyone has awakened to the fraud?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4994434&forum_id=2#43682707)



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Date: December 27th, 2021 11:44 AM
Author: duck-like locale

you're preaching to the choir when it comes to exposing fraudlies on this bort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4994434&forum_id=2#43682740)



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Date: December 27th, 2021 1:37 PM
Author: heady mediation liquid oxygen

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4994434&forum_id=2#43683371)



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Date: December 27th, 2021 11:41 AM
Author: cowardly friendly grandma

Value is a normative question and so it is only ever cashed out in the context of a moral community, however small. An isolani has no value for the same reason you can't make a promise to yourself. Descartes and the nominalists were fundamentally mistaken. Relatedly, there is no neutral standpoint, even accepting mistaken subjectivity, for values (https://counter-currents.com/2014/07/the-tyranny-of-values-1959/) — life's a struggle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4994434&forum_id=2#43682723)



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Date: December 27th, 2021 11:53 AM
Author: contagious henna meetinghouse

nothing has value. everything is flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4994434&forum_id=2#43682798)



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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:27 AM
Author: Mainlining the $ecret truth of the univer$e (We finally beat Medicare)



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