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Ted Boutroustp: Describe the FEELING of getting gaped by EPAH at CA9 today

Can’t feel good
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/12/25
Ahem. Don’t we even discuss lawsuit legal cases here a...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/12/25
get a real job you old as fuck mormon bitch
....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,...,..,:,..,..
  03/12/25
...
kikekilla9000
  03/12/25
Link to the oral argument recording
subcontinental computer genius
  03/12/25
Well I’m not gonna link it here with people like that ...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/12/25
Do you mind if we post the link?
Quercus
  03/12/25
i wish i'd stayed at baker hostetler. i'm about to go to...
Theodore Boutrous, Esq.
  03/12/25
Sounds 1,000,000x better than, “Oh, the other ‘B...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/12/25
Not cr. Boutique has nothing to do with size, unlike your ti...
Theodore Boutrous, Esq.
  03/12/25
These screenshots basically summarize the issue: https://img...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/12/25
who is the lesbian arguing in the top photo
penis burn victim
  03/12/25
He’s a very “famous” lawyer at some bullsh...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/12/25
no I am talking about the old as fuck lesbian on the top pho...
penis burn victim
  03/12/25
Oh you’re a bitchboi ok
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/12/25
He used to look so much more young and handsome. Sad!
Candy Ride
  03/12/25
...
potluck
  03/12/25
Your opponent looks like Henry Winkler.
Candy Ride
  03/12/25
I fucking hate GDC
Epistemic Humility
  03/12/25
Also relevant https://imgur.com/a/yS4LZae
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/12/25
Nice argument! Here's a screen cap of EPAH and his paralegal...
Quercus
  03/12/25
if only
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/12/25
Chambers Courthouse is 180, isn't it?
.,.,.,,,..;;:..,;,.;,.,::,:
  03/12/25
It’s kind of a warren, but yeah it’s alright. Th...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/12/25
What'd you think of Rakoff?
.,.,.,,,..;;:..,;,.;,.,::,:
  03/12/25
We’ve had like four appeals with him. He’s great
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/12/25
He just found (on Monday) a major part of the sentencing gui...
.,.,.,,,..;;:..,;,.;,.,::,:
  03/12/25
He gets reversed by CA2 all the time for being buckwild
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/12/25
Sure. But I don't think this opinion can be appealed. Doe...
.,.,.,,,..;;:..,;,.;,.,::,:
  03/12/25
Hasn’t since we represented some (foreign-born) wholes...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/12/25
You seem insecure. Ted’s a legend. You’re a nobo...
shitlib shibboleth
  03/12/25
Counterpoint: Ted is short, has weird hair, and wears ill-fi...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/12/25
To be fair, All true, but also enough about EPAH...
To be fair
  03/12/25
I thought you’d left after triumphantly posting that I...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/12/25
To be fair, How did I "come back from" poasting...
To be fair
  03/12/25
Oh yeah, this was the thread https://www.xoxohth.com/thread....
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/12/25
To be fair, Wait, so I literally typed out "TBF-free...
To be fair
  03/12/25
Your a bitchboi
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/12/25
To be fair, Wow
To be fair
  03/12/25
Yes, he is an elite trial lawyer
Epistemic Humility
  03/12/25
congrats brother! is that jed rakoff on the west coast?
Kenneth Play
  03/12/25
Yeah. He’s great (as a judge). Seems pretty cool in ge...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/12/25
He wanted to pursue a scholarly diversion that you didn't se...
Kenneth Play
  03/12/25
Very perceptive for just watching the arguments man. I was k...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/12/25
edited: I'd probably edit that - I bet Jed posts. And when ...
Kenneth Play
  03/12/25
lol he is a notorious asshole maniac
shitlib shibboleth
  03/13/25
You should've seen my pre-edit post. But then I realized th...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/13/25
agree
Theodore Boutrous, Esq.
  03/13/25
is this a new case against TLS Ted or the same one from befo...
richard clock
  03/12/25
Same cigar case. Third appeal, lol
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/12/25
jfc, gotta love the law
richard clock
  03/12/25
...
;::;:;;::;;;;;::::
  03/13/25
...
Theodore Boutrous, Esq.
  03/13/25
need video to see how out of control the hand movements were...
peeface
  03/13/25
If you go to CA9 oral arg video website it may or may not be...
Epistemic Humility
  03/13/25
Hands: 6/10 Gay Kermit Voice: 4/10 His simmering lust for ...
peeface
  03/13/25
He talked over her at one point and ignored her question and...
Epistemic Humility
  03/13/25
? She didn't speak in my part iirc.
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/13/25
Listening to this now, what a tortured procedural history. ...
Epistemic Humility
  03/13/25
I predict at least one more appeal, in around 2028. Then ...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/13/25
Is interest running?
Epistemic Humility
  03/13/25
Yeah but it's only 5% federal post-judgment. But we get fee...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/13/25
so if you win, you also get your legal fees for work now lik...
Kenneth Play
  03/13/25
Well, we'd have to win some aspect of it, like getting the f...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/13/25
*crosses out 33 and replaces it with 45* *crosses out 45, b...
Diamond Dallas Trump
  03/13/25
Hell yeah, you think lawyers forgot to get fees for appeals?
Epistemic Humility
  03/13/25
4:50: idle musing tp
Epistemic Humility
  03/13/25
19:50: 200 million cigarillos or something tp
Epistemic Humility
  03/13/25
I think Ted is doing great, actually “fake, fraudulent...
Epistemic Humility
  03/13/25
These aren't 98-IQ jurors.
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/13/25
I edited above on this topic, agree that this was TB's strat...
Kenneth Play
  03/13/25
BTW, I copped that suit at Marshalls for $230 in 2014. (Thi...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/13/25
Came here to ask about the provenance of the tailoring.
David Poaster Wallace
  03/13/25
Theres only one judge there in person and two over zoom? wha...
internet g0y
  03/13/25
CR. Don't they have hearing days like once or twice a month?...
Nazca Redlines
  03/13/25
the guys hairline in the back of the table is brutal. looks ...
internet g0y
  03/13/25
funny how not a single judge is listening to anything you ha...
internet g0y
  03/13/25
What? Judge Wardlaw and Rakoff were listening closely. I f...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/13/25
Im like 2 mins in and it looks like the blonde is reading th...
internet g0y
  03/13/25
That was a pretty focused bench. When he references the yel...
Epistemic Humility
  03/13/25
"Your honor, Ted Boutrous for appella-" "Ex...
L.L.M. Vance
  03/13/25
Sick Rakoff neg that on the 9th Cir website he is listed as ...
Nazca Redlines
  03/13/25
Can you summarily explain how defbro got fees awarded after ...
internet g0y
  03/13/25
This is very hard to explain, but it goes like this: On rem...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/13/25
extremely gay. worst part is you get a tiny pink postjudgmen...
internet g0y
  03/13/25
They had already billed $20M in total fees as of 2023. Must...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/13/25
lmao. im so glad im out of biglaw. *second year rapidly t...
internet g0y
  03/13/25


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Date: March 12th, 2025 4:18 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

Can’t feel good

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48741391)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 4:45 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

Ahem. Don’t we even discuss lawsuit legal cases here and how epah always pwns biglolyers here anymore?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48741546)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,...,..,:,..,..


get a real job you old as fuck mormon bitch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48741552)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: kikekilla9000



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742124)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: subcontinental computer genius

Link to the oral argument recording

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48741561)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 5:08 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

Well I’m not gonna link it here with people like that ⬆️ quotemo ITT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48741626)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:17 PM
Author: Quercus

Do you mind if we post the link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742017)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 5:11 PM
Author: Theodore Boutrous, Esq. ((zurich is stained))

i wish i'd stayed at baker hostetler.

i'm about to go to a 150-atty "boutique" firm based in LA. rate me?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48741630)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 5:47 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

Sounds 1,000,000x better than, “Oh, the other ‘Baker’?”

Edit: OTOH, 150 lolyers is not a “boutique.” It’s shitlaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48741742)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: Theodore Boutrous, Esq. ((zurich is stained))

Not cr. Boutique has nothing to do with size, unlike your tiny pink member

This firm does most of the labor work for the movie studios and media cos. Somewhat prestigious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742194)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

These screenshots basically summarize the issue: https://imgur.com/a/Bdteogu

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48741921)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:49 PM
Author: penis burn victim

who is the lesbian arguing in the top photo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742137)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:50 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

He’s a very “famous” lawyer at some bullshit LA firm (I assume the ordering is mis-displayed on your screen. Are you an Androidmo?)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742140)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:56 PM
Author: penis burn victim

no I am talking about the old as fuck lesbian on the top photo with the short hair not the old as fuck lesbian with the long gray hair in the bottom photo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742163)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

Oh you’re a bitchboi ok

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742174)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 9:36 PM
Author: Candy Ride

He used to look so much more young and handsome. Sad!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742436)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:54 PM
Author: potluck



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742149)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 9:40 PM
Author: Candy Ride

Your opponent looks like Henry Winkler.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742442)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 9:44 PM
Author: Epistemic Humility

I fucking hate GDC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742460)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 6:57 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

Also relevant https://imgur.com/a/yS4LZae

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48741934)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:11 PM
Author: Quercus

Nice argument! Here's a screen cap of EPAH and his paralegal.

https://imgur.com/a/2V5yrVD

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48741996)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:33 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

if only

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742093)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:54 PM
Author: .,.,.,,,..;;:..,;,.;,.,::,:


Chambers Courthouse is 180, isn't it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742147)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:56 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

It’s kind of a warren, but yeah it’s alright. The window view in that courtroom is nice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742162)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:58 PM
Author: .,.,.,,,..;;:..,;,.;,.,::,:


What'd you think of Rakoff?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742167)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:59 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

We’ve had like four appeals with him. He’s great

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742170)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:02 PM
Author: .,.,.,,,..;;:..,;,.;,.,::,:


He just found (on Monday) a major part of the sentencing guidelines unconstitutional, which is great for crime bros like me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742175)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:03 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

He gets reversed by CA2 all the time for being buckwild

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742176)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:23 PM
Author: .,.,.,,,..;;:..,;,.;,.,::,:


Sure. But I don't think this opinion can be appealed.

Does your work ever take you to NYC?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742232)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 9:01 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

Hasn’t since we represented some (foreign-born) wholesalers out there is the Clear Eyes case in 2021 or so. But we’ve got a new case against PepsiCo, so I expect they’ll insist on depos out there. A place called “Purchase, NY.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742322)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:54 PM
Author: shitlib shibboleth

You seem insecure. Ted’s a legend. You’re a nobody.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742150)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:57 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

Counterpoint: Ted is short, has weird hair, and wears ill-fitting suits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742166)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:04 PM
Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded)

To be fair,

All true, but also enough about EPAH...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742178)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:06 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

I thought you’d left after triumphantly posting that Israeli dude’s prediction that TSLA is headed to the stratosphere. How’d you come back from that anyway?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742182)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:07 PM
Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded)

To be fair,

How did I "come back from" poasting a link to guy who gets paid to make financial predictions for a living saying that he thinks TSLA numbers will go up?

IDK good question, wow.

Btw here's another link to another poast I made about another guy employed at another fund saying a similar thing (I actually made this one first), god I hope this doesn't horribly embarrass me again :(

http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688944&mc=19&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742189)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:08 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

Oh yeah, this was the thread https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5690705&mc=45&forum_id=2

Maybe you can post there and set those guys straight? Just an idea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742191)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:09 PM
Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded)

To be fair,

Wait, so I literally typed out "TBF-free thread" in that OP, and now you're in here giving me shit for.... not poasting in it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742193)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

Your a bitchboi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742209)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:15 PM
Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded)

To be fair,

Wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742213)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 9:45 PM
Author: Epistemic Humility

Yes, he is an elite trial lawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742463)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:56 PM
Author: Kenneth Play

congrats brother! is that jed rakoff on the west coast?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742165)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:58 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

Yeah. He’s great (as a judge). Seems pretty cool in general though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742168)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:53 PM
Author: Kenneth Play

He wanted to pursue a scholarly diversion that you didn't seem interested in, on the imputation of fraud. Most of the argument was over my head. It sounds like you have law on your side, but Boutros has facts? And is smooth and presented an easy option for the court to take his side. OTOH Wardlaw seemed focused on the fact that the case started before the fraud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742296)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:58 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

Very perceptive for just watching the arguments man. I was kicking myself for opening the door to the scholarly diversion, but was hoping to build off of Wardlaw’s interest in it from her question to Ted. He actually doesn’t have the facts. His sentences were just a noun, a verb, and “fraud.” Sounded like that sufficed for Jed, but I think the other two care more about the legal issues that were presented.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742306)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 9:13 PM
Author: Kenneth Play

edited: I'd probably edit that - I bet Jed posts. And when we say that TB has "nothing" on his side, I would say he has charisma, and also your client does not sound particularly likable. I mean, I like you, and by extension your clients. But I think that was doing a lot of work in Ted's presentation - he basically kept hammering on "let's keep in mind that this guy is a fraud who's wasting the court's time and making you think about stuff"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742351)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 8:22 AM
Author: shitlib shibboleth

lol he is a notorious asshole maniac

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743173)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 10:50 AM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

You should've seen my pre-edit post. But then I realized that we have to be nice to judges online.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743581)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 10:53 AM
Author: Theodore Boutrous, Esq. ((zurich is stained))

agree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743604)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 9:06 PM
Author: richard clock

is this a new case against TLS Ted or the same one from before?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742334)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 9:11 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

Same cigar case. Third appeal, lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742344)



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Date: March 12th, 2025 9:16 PM
Author: richard clock

jfc, gotta love the law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742363)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: ;::;:;;::;;;;;::::



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48745196)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 10:53 AM
Author: Theodore Boutrous, Esq. ((zurich is stained))



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743603)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 10:55 AM
Author: peeface

need video to see how out of control the hand movements were



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743616)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 10:56 AM
Author: Epistemic Humility

If you go to CA9 oral arg video website it may or may not be the top, most recent link.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743627)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:07 AM
Author: peeface

Hands: 6/10

Gay Kermit Voice: 4/10

His simmering lust for Judge Rawlinson: 10/10



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743679)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:15 AM
Author: Epistemic Humility

He talked over her at one point and ignored her question and she was unhappy - unsubtle neg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743718)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:19 AM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

? She didn't speak in my part iirc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743748)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 10:55 AM
Author: Epistemic Humility

Listening to this now, what a tortured procedural history.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743617)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 10:57 AM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

I predict at least one more appeal, in around 2028.

Then $$$

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743632)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 10:59 AM
Author: Epistemic Humility

Is interest running?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743642)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

Yeah but it's only 5% federal post-judgment. But we get fees, so I kinda don't mind just billing 500 hours/year to this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743650)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 1:12 PM
Author: Kenneth Play

so if you win, you also get your legal fees for work now like the oral argument?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48744310)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

Well, we'd have to win some aspect of it, like getting the fees order reversed. But since basically everything in dispute now is arguing over fees, and since you can get fees on fees, I'd expect to get all this time (I prepared for around 33 hours over the course of two weeks btw)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48744669)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 3:13 PM
Author: Diamond Dallas Trump

*crosses out 33 and replaces it with 45*

*crosses out 45, briefly hesitates, then settles on 52.3*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48744751)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Epistemic Humility

Hell yeah, you think lawyers forgot to get fees for appeals?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48744724)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 10:58 AM
Author: Epistemic Humility

4:50: idle musing tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743637)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:14 AM
Author: Epistemic Humility

19:50: 200 million cigarillos or something tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743711)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:16 AM
Author: Epistemic Humility

I think Ted is doing great, actually “fake, fraudulent profits . . . An affront to justice”

Scheme, confession, etc. turning it into a criminal case. It’s a strategy and he’s executing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743731)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:21 AM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

These aren't 98-IQ jurors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743761)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 1:19 PM
Author: Kenneth Play

I edited above on this topic, agree that this was TB's strategy http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742351

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48744347)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:23 AM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

BTW, I copped that suit at Marshalls for $230 in 2014. (This was back before I knew you could get Walmart suits for $99)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743775)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: David Poaster Wallace

Came here to ask about the provenance of the tailoring.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48744602)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:25 AM
Author: internet g0y

Theres only one judge there in person and two over zoom? what is this bullshit. they need to get their asses back in the office.

lol at the one judge just wearing a black turtle neck in front of a office that looks like a pig sty. pathetic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743783)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 4:21 PM
Author: Nazca Redlines

CR. Don't they have hearing days like once or twice a month? And they can't even be bothered to show up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48745035)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:25 AM
Author: internet g0y

the guys hairline in the back of the table is brutal. looks like a classic biglaw dork. just shave it off at that point. spacepornish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743793)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:27 AM
Author: internet g0y

funny how not a single judge is listening to anything you have to say and are just reading their papers or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743801)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:31 AM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

What? Judge Wardlaw and Rakoff were listening closely. I feel like Judge Rawlinson already knew where she'd come down from the briefing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743821)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:34 AM
Author: internet g0y

Im like 2 mins in and it looks like the blonde is reading the briefs as you are talking, the frumpy black one is writing something down and not looking at you at all, and the white haired bald fraud in the shithole chambers looks like hes jacking off under the desk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743836)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Epistemic Humility

That was a pretty focused bench. When he references the yellow brief they are in the yellow brief.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48744727)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: L.L.M. Vance

"Your honor, Ted Boutrous for appella-"

"Excuse me counsel, don't you mean Ted 'The Raped'TM Boutrous?"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48744659)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 4:20 PM
Author: Nazca Redlines

Sick Rakoff neg that on the 9th Cir website he is listed as "Rakoff" and the actual COA judges get ALL CAPS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48745031)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 4:38 PM
Author: internet g0y

Can you summarily explain how defbro got fees awarded after you won a breach of K? You're the prevailing party and the other side got fees awarded? Sorry can't listen to this whole thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48745107)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 5:14 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

This is very hard to explain, but it goes like this: On remand after CA9 ordered reinstatement of the contract judgment for us:

Ted to our kindly judge, "But my client should still be able to keep its $10M fee award, because we used to be the prevailing party."

Judge: "Is that even legal?"

Ted: "Yeah, it happens all the time."

Judge: "Oh, okay, that sounds fine."

Me: "But he didn't cite you any case where this has ever happened in history, and the Florida SCOTUS says that the fee award must conform to an appellate reversal."

Judge: "Florida SCOTUS?"

Me: "What?"

Judge: "It doesn't matter. Swisher can keep its fees."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48745310)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 5:25 PM
Author: internet g0y

extremely gay. worst part is you get a tiny pink postjudgment interest on fee awards (which i assume are considered part of the judgment for that) while Ted has got 20%+ every year in the S&P and crypto so even when he has to turn them over hes made like $2 mil of that alone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48745367)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

They had already billed $20M in total fees as of 2023. Must be around $22M by now. And beyond the three at counsel table there were SIX GDC and Akerman lawyers in the gallery, along with the D's GC.

Edit: and the head of GDC's antitrust practice was sitting on the BENCH in front of the bar as the fourth attorney. Dude has been a lolyer for 41 years, and must bill $2K/hr minimum. Nice guy (even if almost entirely bald), but still.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48745377)



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Date: March 13th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: internet g0y

lmao. im so glad im out of biglaw.

*second year rapidly taking notes on a hearing that will have an immediate transcript and video recording*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48745386)