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What is a staff attorney at a big firm and how is different

from an associate position?
flirting nursing home potus
  05/26/13
Pluses: Doesn't really seem to be up or out Minuses: ...
180 slimy hospital
  05/26/13
You're a doc review monkey and get paid half as much. You al...
Cerebral Puppy Native
  05/26/13
I see. Any way to transition out or into a normal position ...
flirting nursing home potus
  05/26/13
It's really tough because lawyers know that you are a second...
Cerebral Puppy Native
  05/26/13
You sometimes see these people go to state AGs office or som...
chartreuse multi-colored organic girlfriend
  05/26/13
at my firm, staff associates in litigation are "discove...
maize state travel guidebook
  05/26/13
Doc review.
frisky pit antidepressant drug
  05/26/13
There are a few firms where staff attorneys get to do stuff ...
Peach insecure background story
  05/26/13
I know a dood who went from a notorious shitlaw firm to a re...
Self-absorbed curious roommate
  05/26/13
possible to go staff attorney to real BigLaw just by leaving...
Mildly autistic pontificating market
  05/26/13
maybe if u are (1) willing to convincingly lie your ass off ...
Peach insecure background story
  05/26/13
I know a guy who did this for like 7 years at a big firm. H...
turquoise greedy fortuitous meteor set
  05/26/13
This is a better outcome than some real associates get.
brass kitchen alpha
  05/26/13
Cr. How did he cop in-house? Is he a Persian bro?
Cerebral Puppy Native
  05/26/13
Lol, he actually was. You know him? I don't how he got it....
turquoise greedy fortuitous meteor set
  05/26/13
Lol. I was just kidding, alluding to Diesel copping an in-ho...
Cerebral Puppy Native
  05/26/13
In nyc they start at six figures.
Talented Famous Landscape Painting Trust Fund
  05/26/13
nice
pale public bath nibblets
  05/26/13
I am one of these at lower v100. They actually make associat...
vivacious location
  05/26/13
Lol, there's no limit to what you can becum bro
flirting nursing home potus
  05/26/13


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Date: May 26th, 2013 12:02 PM
Author: flirting nursing home potus

from an associate position?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272297)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 12:04 PM
Author: 180 slimy hospital

Pluses:

Doesn't really seem to be up or out

Minuses:

Not partner track

Do shittier work, like supervising doc reviews etc.

Paid less

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272301)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 12:06 PM
Author: Cerebral Puppy Native

You're a doc review monkey and get paid half as much. You also don't really gain any worthwhile legal skills or experience. Still better than unemployment though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272307)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 12:10 PM
Author: flirting nursing home potus

I see. Any way to transition out or into a normal position somewhere else based on this experience?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272326)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 12:13 PM
Author: Cerebral Puppy Native

It's really tough because lawyers know that you are a second-class citizen. There are a few TTT exit options like "lit support", but that's really not much better than the staff attorney track.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272336)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 1:01 PM
Author: chartreuse multi-colored organic girlfriend

You sometimes see these people go to state AGs office or something of that ilk. Obv the staff attorney experience isn't going to be a boost there. I have seen them go to doc review vendors but I think any pay raise is incremental there, maybe 90k to 100k.

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Date: May 26th, 2013 1:03 PM
Author: maize state travel guidebook

at my firm, staff associates in litigation are "discovery specialists." that is, they have a lot of technical and operational expertise with document collection, litigation holds, etc. it's actually not a bad position to leverage into an in-house job if you want to because large companies are beginning to develop this kind of expertise in-house. that said, it's not really being a "lawyer."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272547)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 1:05 PM
Author: frisky pit antidepressant drug

Doc review.

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Date: May 26th, 2013 1:47 PM
Author: Peach insecure background story

There are a few firms where staff attorneys get to do stuff but it's mostly a doc review position.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272735)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 2:00 PM
Author: Self-absorbed curious roommate

I know a dood who went from a notorious shitlaw firm to a respected shitlaw firm to a staff attorney position in Biglaw. But after a few years, he got tired of the downsides mentioned above, and so he left the SA gig for an in-house job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272786)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 2:03 PM
Author: Mildly autistic pontificating market

possible to go staff attorney to real BigLaw just by leaving off 'staff attorney' on resume?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272802)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 8:18 PM
Author: Peach insecure background story

maybe if u are (1) willing to convincingly lie your ass off to multiple people. they are going to ask you during interview what kind of shit you did at the firm. (2) pray to god they don't do any kind of due diligence. most firms websites will either not list staff attorney bios or prominently display that u are a staff attorney.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23274637)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 2:03 PM
Author: turquoise greedy fortuitous meteor set

I know a guy who did this for like 7 years at a big firm. He was a master of avoiding work, and seemed to basically work 9-5:30. Then he landed an in-house job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272803)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 2:08 PM
Author: brass kitchen alpha

This is a better outcome than some real associates get.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272845)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 2:12 PM
Author: Cerebral Puppy Native

Cr. How did he cop in-house? Is he a Persian bro?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272865)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 2:18 PM
Author: turquoise greedy fortuitous meteor set

Lol, he actually was. You know him? I don't how he got it. He basically managed documents for one company in a giant litigation for like 7 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272898)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 2:37 PM
Author: Cerebral Puppy Native

Lol. I was just kidding, alluding to Diesel copping an in-house jerb from his Persian connections.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272972)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 2:29 PM
Author: Talented Famous Landscape Painting Trust Fund

In nyc they start at six figures.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272943)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 2:53 PM
Author: pale public bath nibblets

nice

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Date: May 26th, 2013 3:32 PM
Author: vivacious location

I am one of these at lower v100. They actually make associates out of the staff attorneys but I suspect it's not going to happen for me. The pay is good--45/hr + time and a half--but a recruiter told me that is absolute top of the market so there's really not much hope of ever doing much better. Unless I can becum a senior staff attorney I guess. The downsides mentioned above are all true and I know that I'm basically mortgaging my career for a few pay days now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23273203)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 8:13 PM
Author: flirting nursing home potus

Lol, there's no limit to what you can becum bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23274604)