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Date: December 3rd, 2020 2:03 PM Author: Mauve ceo Why should this country stay together in it's current form? We have different basic economic systems, to where blue states tend to have big multinational corporations and financial services, to where Red States tend to be much smaller businesses that service regional interests and manufacturing. Blue States like a model that focuses on encouraging extraordinarily high wages for a few, very high taxes, and generous social benefits (i.e. the CA model). Red States encourage small business, low taxes, and a very less involvement of state gov. in people's lives.
Blue State governments (and the Fed gov) are enormous and provide very high paying jobs, Red State governments are not well funded and small.
We have different religions, to where Red States tend to be Christian and Blue States are secular liberals. In that regard, our basic beliefs are completely different, with disagreements concerning what is gender, when does life begin, and what is murder. Blue State voters are terrified of the weather changing, Red States are terrified of social/family decay, and neither gives a shit about the other's concerns.
On race, we don't even have the same definition of civil rights or what it is to be racist. Red State people think that being racist is disliking someone for the color of their skin and civil rights means legal equality. Blue States think that being racist is to not acknowledge white guilt/ white sin and civil rights means the government passing laws that discriminate against others for the benefit of "historically oppressed" minorities.
Our music tastes split over geographical boundaries, as does our sports preferences. Red States tend to like college football and blue states like NBA and NFL.
We have no shared history, as Blue States are filled with recent immigrants and whites who take no pride in their western history. Red States claim to love "this country" and the US, but it seems unclear to me what "this country" is that they love so much? They love their region, but if your average bubba walked down a street in East Los Angeles or Southside Chicago I don't think they would be proud of much.
EDIT: on use of the military, Red State people need to be sold that the US military is necessary to "protect our freedom," where Blue State politicians are eager to use the US military to protect the interests of multinational corps (that also exist in blue states) and foreign interests like Israel. Blue State people seem to go back and forth on their feelings on the military depending on what their political leaders need, which is fascinating in itself, but Blue State people do not believe that the military exists for the purpose of "protecting our freedoms" or any other patriotic euphemism gets trotted out. Blue State people also serve at much lower rates than Red Staters, especially among whites.
In the past, there were reasons to stay together. During the civil war, there was a sense that this country was a great experiment in self governance and freedom and people really believed that the US failing would mean the return of the monarchy (or aristocracy). Nobody believes this now, if anything Blue State people believes that the US Constitution as written and traditional US culture is the greatest cause of tyranny and oppression that exists in the world today.
There were economic reasons to stay together in the past, for instance the cotton trade in the 1860's saw crops grown in the South and financers from the North profiting. Today, I think that Red States would be happy to rid themselves of the multi-national corporations and tech corps that dominate Blue States.
It does not seem to me that these visions are reconcilable. For Blue State economic and social visions to work, the core values of Red States cannot be allowed to exist. Red State Christianity seems like evil bigotry to Blue States, Blue State economic policies cannot thrive if companies and workers can flee to Red States.
Why can there not be a real conversation of a group of Red States leaving? What stops this? If the old Confederacy left the US, the remaining US states could have the political ability to usher in the progressive utopia sought after since FDR, who would stop them? Every LGBT+ person in West LA would be thrilled to no longer be countrymen with people who tailgate at NASCAR races?
Why is this not in everyone's best interest?
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 2:08 PM Author: Coiffed parlor I think more people than ever agree that we should break up. Drawing the boundary lines might be difficult. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41479565) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 2:12 PM Author: Mauve ceo Exactly where the lines go would be tough, but I think most people would agree that the South and Midwest (sans Chicago) need to go. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41479604) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 2:17 PM Author: Coiffed parlor Colorado poses a big question.
North Carolina and Virginia might have to be broken up.
Is it necessary to connect the east and west coasts? |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 2:20 PM Author: Mauve ceo It wasn't necessary to connect Alaska, Hawaii seems to function fine.
The interesting question would be whether the east and west coasts would want to be the same country. |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 9:28 PM Author: Coiffed parlor True about Hawaii and Alaska. I would like to see most interstate travel and commerce preserved. I think pro sports could carry on between 2 countries. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41482266) |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 1:29 AM Author: Wonderful autistic whorehouse Like the US and Canada? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41494012) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 9:55 AM Author: topaz tanning salon azn What about Central PA/Pittsburgh/Upstate NY? Would Chicago be an island city, like West Berlin? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41484392) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 9:57 AM Author: Mauve ceo Thinking this through, it may be the reason why no real split-up is possible is because there isn't a critical mass of geographic division to allow it to be possible. Even in the South, places like Atlanta, Charleston, & Charlotte are solid blue and would have no interest in leaving their Blue brethren. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41484400) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 7:05 PM Author: Coiffed parlor Plus red America has no real leaders. Ted Cruz is probably from some lib hellhole like Dallas. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41487395) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 7:07 PM Author: startling claret legend Once Trump stops sucking all the oxygen out of the party, youre going to see some people step up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41487401) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 2:09 PM Author: smoky fantasy-prone place of business stage Please change "this country" to "ARE country" thx (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41479573) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 2:24 PM Author: Mauve ceo Imagine if you could just say bye-bye to ARE country voters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41479704) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 8:23 PM Author: Mauve ceo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41481874) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 9:29 PM Author: green rigor lodge definitely no ongoing civil war bro. NYUUG is NEVER always right. never. not even a SINGLE prediction of his has EVER been correct. ZERO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41482279) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 9:33 PM Author: cruel-hearted mustard wrinkle Exactly. Like what are we even trying to stay together for anymore. We can't even agree on what a man or woman is and we pretend more unites us than divides us lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41482307) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 9:34 PM Author: green rigor lodge it's almost as if america has been a broken nation since day one. odd case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41482311) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 9:40 PM Author: adventurous blue stag film trust fund It's like mom and dad trying to stay together for the kids, but the kids just grow resentful at both of them for subjecting them to their constant fighting. Life would be better if they could grow up with them independent of each other. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41482338) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 9:43 PM Author: green rigor lodge *a bunch of rejects from dozens of european countries immigrate to the Americas*
*proudly declares a nation founded upon the notion that all men are created equal...except for niggers and Injuns*
*wonders why his country has self-destructed multiple times in its mere 200 yr history*
*is cumskin* |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 5:05 PM Author: Tantric Stage Gay Wizard Unlike the ethnonational state of Korea which is totally unified and not divided between commies and faggots that believe in UFO cults and worship Samsung and dancing queers in boy bands. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41486835) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 5:55 PM Author: Lemon lascivious area oof (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41487092) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 7:08 PM Author: Beady-eyed cerise school cafeteria gaping To be fair,
Ruthless
LOLLERCAUSTING HARD |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 8:08 PM Author: Stirring gold queen of the night (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41487651) |
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Date: December 5th, 2020 5:38 PM Author: charismatic misanthropic university dysfunction (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41491673) |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 3:37 PM Author: Vibrant Abusive Friendly Grandma Chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41496176) |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 8:37 PM Author: green rigor lodge so TWO ethnostates. oh u mad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41497517) |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 8:42 PM Author: Sepia Razzle-dazzle Community Account Savage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41497555) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2021 5:00 PM Author: Mauve ceo harsh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#43547383) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 9:45 PM Author: cruel-hearted mustard wrinkle 180 analogy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41482364) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 9:48 PM Author: appetizing violent dopamine theater stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41482376) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 5:06 PM Author: big giraffe mental disorder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41486845) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 9:35 PM Author: frum racy stain Jews will never allow it, stupid post (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41482312) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 3:23 PM Author: gaped titillating pit dragon The British didnt allow American independence either. It must be taken by force. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41486244) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 9:51 PM Author: aphrodisiac know-it-all regret halford the blue states vampirically exploit the vast resources of the red states, tho. they will never let them go their own ways. its part of why the blue states can be so rich. the combination of the two has created the great america, dividing it will weaken the empire. its the first step towards a collapse of the pax americana.
bad idea. |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 9:53 PM Author: green rigor lodge FRIENDLY REMINDER that prince is literally a schzoidal pencil dicked white supremacist fucktard who bitterly hates korea because NYUUG made fun him on an anonymous hypertext based twitterblog (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41482407) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 10:11 PM Author: Stirring gold queen of the night Ok, you've convinced me, he's cooler than you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41482514) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 9:54 PM Author: cruel-hearted mustard wrinkle pax americana sucked anyways. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41482415) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 9:56 PM Author: aphrodisiac know-it-all regret halford the south has enriched and continues to enrich america in many ways. this is like the original splitting of the roman emprie, and thats the point where historians agree rome was no longer the GREAT ROMAN EMPIRE, but a shadow of itself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41482424) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 9:57 PM Author: Buff Nursing Home Marketing Idea ok jew (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41482435) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 9:59 PM Author: aphrodisiac know-it-all regret halford well, im just sayin..
and the main point is that the blue states wont just let the red states go. they truly and absolutely depend on their subordination. thats essentially the reason they put up with so much culture of the south that is so alien to the north. its a bullet they will gladly continue to bite for the rewards of exploitation. |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 10:11 PM Author: Stirring gold queen of the night (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41482510) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 10:33 AM Author: Buff Nursing Home Marketing Idea yeah no shit. i dont think anyone thinks this would be easy or deep state would go along with it quietly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41484557) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 10:10 PM Author: Stirring gold queen of the night CR, except that these things make it a good idea. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41482508) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 9:51 AM Author: topaz tanning salon azn Walk us through the mechanics of this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41484383) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2020 10:06 PM Author: painfully honest faggotry international law enforcement agency I don’t think blue states could get by without red states. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41482474) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 9:24 AM Author: Mauve ceo Why? In what what way do Blue States need the Red States? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41484277) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 3:20 PM Author: painfully honest faggotry international law enforcement agency Blue states would have no revenue. A 2003 study showed that for every $1 a lib pays in taxes, a con pays $4. Most gov gibsmedats go to libs, also. |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 12:07 AM Author: Poppy bipolar filthpig office Link to study? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41493717) |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 12:52 AM Author: painfully honest faggotry international law enforcement agency did a quick google search...
found a graph in a book (link below, page 159) that shows from 1998-2003, the median-income republican male pays about 5x as much income tax as the median-income democrat male. The median-income republican female pays about 500x as much income tax as the median-income democrat female.
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Date: December 6th, 2020 12:55 AM Author: appetizing violent dopamine theater stage jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41493928) |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 1:55 AM Author: Stirring gold queen of the night holy hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41494050) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2021 5:05 PM Author: chrome provocative hall tattoo it's not that blue states NEED red states...it's that the larger a nation, the more divided that nation...making a nation smaller unifies that nation, generally speaking...the more unified a nation, the harder it is for the elites to control that nation, and the larger it is, the easier for elites to control it...divide et impera... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#43547415) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 9:24 AM Author: multi-colored amber market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41484279) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 9:52 AM Author: topaz tanning salon azn Interesting how talk of secession is coming from Charleston yet again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41484386) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 9:54 AM Author: Mauve ceo Charleston would be the last place that real secession talk would come from. With recent immigration from other states, Charleston is solid blue. Biden carried Charleston County by 13 points. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41484391) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 9:55 AM Author: topaz tanning salon azn Is this not real secession talk ITT? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41484394) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 9:59 AM Author: Mauve ceo Do you think that I, in any way, speak for popular opinion in Charleston? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41484410) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 10:02 AM Author: Stimulating maroon toilet seat aren't you the mayor? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41484416) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 10:05 AM Author: Mauve ceo I recently stepped down from my position as honorary mayor of Thee Southern Belle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41484422) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 10:03 AM Author: Deranged genital piercing Trump becoming a king in exile in Florida will help accelerate this. TRUMPlandia will rise soon. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41484418) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 10:05 AM Author: Vivacious Hateful People Who Are Hurt As a trained lawyer, how does this question make any sense?? The Constitution dies. No Federalism, no administrative court system, no commerce clause, not even conflict of laws, just chaos. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41484426) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 10:11 AM Author: Mauve ceo The sheer size of the job is a reasonable point as to why it's a bad idea, as well as the economic uncertainty that would come with this job.
Really though, in terms of the Constitution, between a seceding bunch of Red States and the remaining Blue State, which nation do you think would elect to continue to operate under the Constitution? |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 10:20 AM Author: Vivacious Hateful People Who Are Hurt *fires first cannonball into Fort Sumter* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41484494) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 10:23 AM Author: Mauve ceo *Takes a shot of fireball on Morris Island* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41484507) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 10:34 AM Author: Vivacious Hateful People Who Are Hurt https://www.npr.org/2011/04/12/135323959/s-c-marks-the-day-cannons-roared-at-fort-sumter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41484569) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 5:07 PM Author: big giraffe mental disorder The constitution will largely remain in part of the country, but will probably change dramatically in certain lib parts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41486850) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 10:06 AM Author: Stimulating maroon toilet seat well if we're talking Civil War, burning down Atlanta again wouldn't be a bad idea (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41484429) |
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Date: December 5th, 2020 10:18 PM Author: Stirring gold queen of the night (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41493026) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 10:07 AM Author: Wine Awkward Center Le's do it. Where do we start? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41484431) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 10:16 AM Author: Stimulating maroon toilet seat Antifa has literal autonomous zones in US cities and contards can't even do the same except come up with insane fantasies lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41484471) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 10:22 AM Author: Mauve ceo It's different than LARP'ing a revolution with the tacit consent of the police & city leadership. Also, they were part of a broad movement of protests that came from the left which seemed to be primarily on swaying the upcoming POTUS election.
Since it was a political stunt, obviously nothing came of it and those people when back to doing whatever. Antifa is a part of the established power structure in places like Portland and they aren't doing anything without orders.
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Date: December 4th, 2020 5:11 PM Author: big giraffe mental disorder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41486865) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 10:20 AM Author: embarrassed to the bone mahogany feces state It needs to happen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41484495) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 10:24 AM Author: Ruby Double Fault There are no red and blue STATES. There are deep blue CITIES and the rest. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41484519) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 10:27 AM Author: Mauve ceo Assuming this is the CR (which I think it is), what the hell happens from here on out? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41484532) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 4:54 PM Author: Ruby Double Fault Ethnic conflict probably. Winner take all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41486762) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 4:58 PM Author: Mauve ceo The past two times this country has gone through this, one side wins completely and wipes the other side off the political map forever. Washington & the Continental Army saw to it that Loyalists were forever out of power. Lincoln did the same with Southern political power, killing 250k Southerners, destroying their economy, and disenfranchising Southerners for decades. Southern power came back, but the political ideas that animated secession were stamped out forever.
How does that happen this time? How does either side "win" like has happened before? |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 11:37 PM Author: Stirring gold queen of the night Weaponizing the national security apparatus and winning with superior tech is the closest it can get. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41488684) |
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Date: December 5th, 2020 10:21 PM Author: Stirring gold queen of the night unlikely there would be clear ethnic lines drawn given White shitlib affection for minorities; instead, I would expect much more idological lines if it comes to this. I expect a more general level of collapse than just a clearcut civil war though (although it will certainly share some properties). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41493040) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 6:09 PM Author: histrionic bat shit crazy hissy fit This is what happens, written in 2010:
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Date: December 5th, 2020 4:09 PM Author: Ruby Double Fault Maybe this guy knew about XRP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41491271) |
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Date: December 5th, 2020 10:06 PM Author: Stirring gold queen of the night book? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41492974) |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 12:17 AM Author: Poppy bipolar filthpig office Looks like it’s this one: https://www.amazon.com/Creature-Jekyll-Island-Federal-Reserve/dp/091298645X |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 12:52 AM Author: Stirring gold queen of the night 180, ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41493916) |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 12:14 AM Author: Poppy bipolar filthpig office TCR. The difference between a “red state” and a “blue state” is how much of the population is urbanized (exceptions being Vermont and Maine). History is filled with exact situation and the outcome is always the same: effete city-dwelling liberals are taken by surprise by a sudden rural uprising, who come sweeping out of the countryside and take the cities by force. Afghanistan in the 90s is a great example of this. |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 10:25 AM Author: Exhilarant kink-friendly garrison White ethnostate in mountain west Cascadia west coast/southwest Texas is Texas Dixie is Dixie Northeast/Great Lakes States Prairie states choose where to go
Everyone has 5 years to move where they want to end up.
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Date: December 4th, 2020 5:10 PM Author: big giraffe mental disorder I think this 100% will happen, the only question is how. It could happen after a horrible civil war or the US being nuked in some idiotic war with China/Russia/Iran/NK or we can behave like intelligent people and divide the country up before it gets to that. Half the country hates the other half. We are no longer at the point of "we have our differences but we're all Americans." As OP states - there's nothing uniting us. They should be able to have their green new deal, open borders, socialism, etc. And we should be able to have free speech, guns, capitalism, low taxes, etc.
The problem is that it will take a number of states breaking off before this actually happens. |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 5:19 PM Author: chrome provocative hall tattoo dream on...as long as the police state remains intact, the elites will NEVER allow any secession (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41486906) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 5:57 PM Author: big giraffe mental disorder The economy is a house of cards that is collapsing. Once that happens, all bets are off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41487101) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 5:49 PM Author: supple fiercely-loyal national reading party The reddest state is roughly 1/3 dem and the bluest state is roughly 1/3 con. No matter where you drew the line, you’d have a pretty sizable minority that is not on board. When states seceded during the lead up to the Civil War, I bet the vast majority of the voting population was pretty pumped on the confederacy (not sure about that though). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41487063) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 5:58 PM Author: big giraffe mental disorder The revolutionary war had 1/3 of the population as loyalists to the Brits. Many in the Civil War were sympathetic to the other side. In any split, people will have to move. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41487106) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 7:15 PM Author: Beady-eyed cerise school cafeteria gaping To be fair,
That’s true in 2020. It won’t be true in 2030, and it sure as shit won’t be true in 2040.
We are creating IRL geographic echo chambers just like we have already by and large created online echo chambers, and that process is constantly accelerating as the political “middle” collapses and pure ethnic tribalism (albeit with self-hating white shitlibs consciously rejecting their own birth tribe because they have been deeply brainwashed by kikes) re-emerging as the dominant organizing force in American life. |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 11:36 PM Author: Stirring gold queen of the night (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41488675) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 7:06 PM Author: umber senate Why? Was Season 3 announced? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41487399) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2021 5:01 PM Author: dull orchestra pit selfie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#43547389) |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 7:21 PM Author: Opaque sanctuary round eye libs will say we can't break up the country because blacks will be mistreated in the new confederacy, when of course it's all about power (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41487441) |
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Date: December 5th, 2020 11:28 AM Author: Beady-eyed cerise school cafeteria gaping To be fair,
Damn if only there was a solution to an easily identifiable group of people being treated poorly within one country that hates then (and which they won’t like anyway) which is right next to another country that loves them and wants to financially subsidize everything they do (and which they will love as a result). Fuck if only. |
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Date: December 5th, 2020 9:29 PM Author: Opaque sanctuary round eye I can see it now: all minorities are welcome as refugees in lib america, while no whites from con america are allowed citizenship even if they were born there. Social justice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41492796) |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 3:20 AM Author: Beady-eyed cerise school cafeteria gaping To be fair,
“We accept these terms.” |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 8:05 PM Author: chocolate concupiscible pervert my proposed map:
libs can have Hawaii and Puerto Rico. Red States get Alaska, Guam, Virgin Islands and other territories |
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Date: December 4th, 2020 8:15 PM Author: painfully honest faggotry international law enforcement agency How about we launch the libs into the fucking ocean instead. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41487683) |
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Date: December 5th, 2020 2:03 PM Author: Mauve ceo This all sounds very reasonable also we get the Northern Mariana Islands (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41490805) |
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Date: December 5th, 2020 4:58 PM Author: supple fiercely-loyal national reading party Which are tremendous, by the way (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41491489) |
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Date: December 5th, 2020 5:36 PM Author: Vigorous Locus Fortuitous Meteor lol. This place is dumber than Reddit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41491668) |
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Date: December 5th, 2020 10:09 PM Author: Stirring gold queen of the night if you can't see the humor in this poast I think you should definitely go back to reddit with the rest of the intellectuals (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41492986) |
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Date: December 5th, 2020 11:58 PM Author: Vigorous Locus Fortuitous Meteor Tho funny (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41493669) |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 1:05 AM Author: Stirring gold queen of the night guess you'll have to leave the bort, we'll miss ya, bye! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41493955) |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 11:54 AM Author: Vigorous Locus Fortuitous Meteor (guy whose map includes a tunnel through Lake Michigan) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41495034) |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 4:06 PM Author: chocolate concupiscible pervert what's up your butt? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41496322) |
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Date: December 5th, 2020 10:08 PM Author: Stirring gold queen of the night (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41492980) |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 3:43 AM Author: Boyish ungodly brethren great work on lib midwst (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41494180) |
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Date: December 5th, 2020 5:02 PM Author: Rough-skinned Puppy Stead If our country failed, it’s despots all around the world from here on out. They will say the dream of self governance is dead. And it would be. We would be the rabble once again. Just one of many reasons, but one which Abraham Lincoln for example took very seriously. Also your facts are all wrong. Places like SC would soon be completely impoverished, more so than now. |
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Date: December 5th, 2020 5:05 PM Author: big giraffe mental disorder This is neocon garbage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41491527) |
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Date: December 5th, 2020 5:20 PM Author: Rough-skinned Puppy Stead If Abraham Lincoln said it I don’t think it’s neo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41491603) |
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Date: December 5th, 2020 5:22 PM Author: pink electric furnace foreskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41491614) |
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Date: December 5th, 2020 10:11 PM Author: indigo boltzmann Sedition is a pretty serious crime guys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41492991) |
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Date: December 5th, 2020 10:23 PM Author: Mind-boggling Iridescent Prole Useless Brakes why do conservatives hate america?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41493045) |
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Date: December 5th, 2020 10:29 PM Author: big giraffe mental disorder Libs hate conservative America.
Conservatives hate lib America.
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Date: December 5th, 2020 10:37 PM Author: Stirring gold queen of the night well, between the corporate empowerment of minority violent crime and transgender 8 year olds, it's hard to really tell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41493133) |
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Date: December 5th, 2020 11:36 PM Author: Boyish ungodly brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41493551) |
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Date: December 5th, 2020 11:37 PM Author: Mind-boggling Iridescent Prole Useless Brakes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41493559) |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 12:00 AM Author: Rose hominid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41493682) |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 12:20 AM Author: embarrassed to the bone mahogany feces state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41493772) |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 12:54 AM Author: Cerebral flushed resort cuck Your arguments are centered around the needs and interests of the american people, but literally nothing is done in this country in the people's interests. There won't be secession until it's in the elite's interests, which it never will be, or there's a civil war which there probably won't be either (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41493925) |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 1:21 AM Author: Flesh property That's a dramatic and mutually harmful solution to what's really a very discrete problem: increasing political vitriol. There's not even that much distance between the 2 parties in terms of policy prescriptions (relative to other countries and relative to America in other eras); we're just very vitriolic toward the other side.
I will note that there's a much, much, much less-damaging and more-feasible solution: move the American press (both news media and the political commentariat) from their current locations and reassign them to SWING FROM LAMPPOSTS. |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 1:57 AM Author: Stirring gold queen of the night need a final solution to der lügenpresse question (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41494052) |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 2:26 PM Author: gaped titillating pit dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41495793) |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 3:23 AM Author: Beady-eyed cerise school cafeteria gaping To be fair,
But how did the press get so bad?
Why is mainstream media so pornographic?
Why is miscegenation and child sex transitioning being pushed to heavily as a new cultural norm?
Why is Christianity mocked, scorned, and despised?
Why is the First Amendment being continually eroded both normatively and legally?
What is the common thread causing all of these problems across society? Who is pushing these perverse agendas? |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 3:49 AM Author: chrome provocative hall tattoo 1. with the rise of the internet, there was lots of new free sources of news, causing the loss of newspaper subscription revenue, leading the media outlets to wind up proles with heated political rhetoric in order to get more readers 2. with less subscription revenue, ads became more important, meaning that newspaper had to start generating news stories as opinion, espousing positions that the advertisers liked--hence a more neoliberal, immigration-friendly stance
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Date: December 6th, 2020 4:00 AM Author: Beady-eyed cerise school cafeteria gaping To be fair,
The answer is, “Jews”. |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 3:32 AM Author: appetizing violent dopamine theater stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41494171) |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 3:39 AM Author: chrome provocative hall tattoo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41494178) |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 3:41 AM Author: Boyish ungodly brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41494179) |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 3:28 PM Author: Rose hominid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41496138) |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 3:58 PM Author: big giraffe mental disorder Disagree. Taxes. Abortion. Guns. Affirmative Action. Environmental bullshit. Immigration/amnesty. Foreign policy (granted, this is more deep state vs. everyone else). Hate speech laws. Defunding the police.
Take lockdowns, for example. Red states and blue states are polar opposites. |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 8:36 PM Author: chrome provocative hall tattoo oh please, not this again...the TINY difference in fed income taxes on the upper class...what is it, 3%? Don't make me laugh...also, only religious nutters give a shit about abortion...the rest of your "reasons" are limited to political rhetoric, for all practical purposes...are you insane with the "Hate speech laws" comment? WTF? Have you even been paying attention? The corporations are the censors...and the gop did NOTHING about it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41497512) |
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Date: December 7th, 2020 9:20 AM Author: big giraffe mental disorder That's what they can get but that's not the same thing as what they want. A huge portion of this country is "religious nutters" then. Corporations are a HUGE problem but dems are corporatists these days. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41499527) |
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Date: December 6th, 2020 11:57 AM Author: pink electric furnace foreskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#41495047) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2021 9:41 AM Author: Mauve ceo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4704028&forum_id=2#42721666) |