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Watching The Pacific. Why didn't soldiers just carry giant medieval shields?
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Date: July 9th, 2017 7:10 PM Author: Judgmental mad-dog skullcap shitlib Like a fully body shield they could carry: https://i.pinimg.com/564x/2e/b5/03/2eb503e4e83547a5d31fe0ec93835da3.jpg
They're basically just running straight into enemy fire so why not. It’s insane. |
Date: July 9th, 2017 7:11 PM Author: Khaki digit ratio One weird trick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#33736855) |
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Date: July 9th, 2017 7:13 PM Author: Judgmental mad-dog skullcap shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#33736866) |
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Date: July 9th, 2017 7:17 PM Author: thriller masturbator metal thick enough to stop bullets is usually too heavy to carry. "Armor" refers to tanks which do just that, but are self-propelled (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#33736884) |
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Date: October 13th, 2017 10:49 PM Author: Pontificating bateful national fortuitous meteor That's why the shield is rounded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#34438083) |
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Date: October 13th, 2017 10:52 PM Author: Magical flesh doctorate U slowly lumbering up to Japanese as Grenades land all around ur feet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#34438101) |
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Date: July 9th, 2017 7:12 PM Author: Nubile Dull Lodge Ceo there was actually a lot of shield use in WWI, but it really restricted your mobility, which was often deadly when you had to take evasive action to avoid targeted fire. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#33736858) |
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Date: July 9th, 2017 7:16 PM Author: Judgmental mad-dog skullcap shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#33736880) |
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Date: July 9th, 2017 7:18 PM Author: motley hospital messiness The Pacific is about the USMC. The Army had the shield technology. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#33736886) |
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Date: July 9th, 2017 7:20 PM Author: cyan sneaky criminal They tried this but the japs had really powerful magnets and pulled the soldiers toward them and then dropped them in the sea where they drowned to death (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#33736899) |
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Date: October 13th, 2017 10:57 PM Author: Garnet field fanboi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#34438128) |
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Date: October 13th, 2017 11:14 PM Author: violent stage faggot firefighter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#34438233) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2019 7:15 PM Author: Judgmental mad-dog skullcap shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#39062825) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2019 7:15 PM Author: primrose frozen theater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#39062830) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 3:49 PM Author: Judgmental mad-dog skullcap shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41411065) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 3:50 PM Author: Effete half-breed place of business (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41411066) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 7:49 PM Author: internet-worthy garrison weed whacker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41412349) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 11:34 PM Author: Pontificating bateful national fortuitous meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41413387) |
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Date: January 12th, 2023 3:46 PM Author: Swashbuckling Orchestra Pit Organic Girlfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#45779829) |
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Date: January 12th, 2023 3:47 PM Author: soul-stirring maize church building windowlicker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#45779835) |
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Date: January 12th, 2023 3:48 PM Author: deep therapy WW2 but with some Command-and-Conquer alt-history tech would be 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#45779842) |
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Date: October 13th, 2017 10:48 PM Author: Judgmental mad-dog skullcap shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#34438078) |
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Date: October 13th, 2017 10:50 PM Author: Pontificating bateful national fortuitous meteor Trued2 this in WWI, but it was faggot:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_personnel_shield |
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Date: October 13th, 2017 10:53 PM Author: Magical flesh doctorate They were trying anything in ww1. Look at this dumbass tank the Russians invented http://www.worldwar1gallery.com/tanks/russian-tanks.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#34438112) |
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Date: October 13th, 2017 10:55 PM Author: Pontificating bateful national fortuitous meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#34438123) |
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Date: October 13th, 2017 10:56 PM Author: Seedy locus knife (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#34438127) |
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Date: October 13th, 2017 11:03 PM Author: Outnumbered church kitty cat lol @ slavs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#34438164) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 3:55 PM Author: supple abode police squad Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41411084) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 7:57 PM Author: Crawly tattoo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41412389) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2020 12:58 AM Author: Judgmental mad-dog skullcap shitlib that Csar Tank is steam punk as shit - https://www.amusingplanet.com/2020/05/tsar-tank.html . This is why WWI stuff is cool. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41413712) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2020 9:07 AM Author: Black senate gaping alpha as fuck
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Date: August 22nd, 2021 4:05 PM Author: Judgmental mad-dog skullcap shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#42991417) |
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Date: January 12th, 2023 3:47 PM Author: Swashbuckling Orchestra Pit Organic Girlfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#45779832) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2020 12:28 AM Author: poppy cheese-eating house WWI is like a mass sick military acid trip. Nobody knew what the fuck they were doing and they were just making up shit that might kill people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41413628) |
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Date: January 12th, 2023 3:40 PM Author: Cordovan impressive theatre puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#45779803) |
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Date: October 13th, 2017 11:06 PM Author: Cordovan impressive theatre puppy Would've slowed the bodies too much
Speed>lives |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 3:51 PM Author: contagious hall voyeur (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41411068) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 3:52 PM Author: Citrine Step-uncle's House Laser Beams The island-hopping excursions made about as much sense as the Africa and Italy campaigns. Did generals back then see these little skirmishes as a way to "level-up" their infantry for the big fight? It's as though they had no other choice being that they were 1.) at war, 2.) wanted to fight said war 3.) didn't have the resolve to fight the actual war, whether it be in Europe or Japan proper.
Also there was all kinds of armour in use back then, just not on a wide scale. Steel armour is both lighter and more effective than laymen realise. See: https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-tactical/ridiculous-wwi-body-armor/ https://www.pinterest.com/pin/790944753284427586/
Shields/armour would've saved countless lives in any number of wars imo, the issue is (was) cost. It would probably work today but generals are inside-the-box thinkers and have 90 IQs unless they major in Engineering at west point or are Robert E Lee. |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 4:30 PM Author: Infuriating Space Dragon Are you serious, questioning the island-hopping? The US needed forward bases, and they weren't going to have them - at least not securely - without clearing the field (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41411266) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 7:47 PM Author: Citrine Step-uncle's House Laser Beams Yeah they needed forward bases to engage in pussy-assed firebombing of civilians. Why didn't they invade Japan proper in 1942? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41412339) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 7:52 PM Author: Tripping Canary Electric Furnace Address Lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41412365) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 11:32 PM Author: charismatic box office ladyboy Just do invade Japan from Midway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41413379) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2020 9:08 AM Author: Black senate gaping they had boats dumbass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41414219) |
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Date: January 12th, 2023 3:40 PM Author: Judgmental mad-dog skullcap shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#45779800) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 4:49 PM Author: beady-eyed metal athletic conference Why didn't the Africa campaign make sense? It was mostly a British campaign and they needed to shore up Suez. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41411341) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 7:46 PM Author: Citrine Step-uncle's House Laser Beams They needed to get massacred at Dunkirk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41412335) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2020 9:09 AM Author: Black senate gaping defense of suez made sense
Torch would have made no sense, except Hitler took the bait and kept reinforcing defeat, leading to tens of thousands of his top troops getting stuck on Tunisia, without supplies, and surrendering |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 7:56 PM Author: out-of-control iridescent ape *Guy not familiar with the ceramic armor worn by the US military in Afghanistan and Iraq, about to spend an evening going down a wiki rabbit hole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41412385) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 8:02 PM Author: Citrine Step-uncle's House Laser Beams Yeah steel plates and/or ceramic are the norm but it's nowhere near full coverage afaik. A suit of armour would cover basically all surface area.
Cuirasses were out there in WWI. Really no authentic reason why George Washington or Napoleon to not have worn one other than he would be one of very few so equipped. Imagine Pickett's Charge but with plate armour, they'd be invincible. No one thought of this for some reason. |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 11:19 PM Author: out-of-control iridescent ape The plates are heavy as fuck because lighter stuff doesn't stop bullets (although the engineers have made huge improvement on this front after dudes who had been issued plates were taking shots to the chest because they didn't want to wear the plate). They are also not flexible. Try running with that shit on your legs or operating a weapon while wearing rigid sleeves.
Modern armies have decided that they will cover the head and torso. If you lose a limb the good news is that army medics can probably save you. Afterwards, you get a crazy robo-limb, a medal, lifetime "hero" status, and a much hotter wife than you had coming to you as a dirt-poor 18-year-old enlisted guy with two arms and two legs.
Historic armies would have used armor if it was a decent idea. Once guns got decent, armor was a garbage investment because the stuff that would actually protect a bro was expensive to make, heavy as fuck, and required training to use. Much more cost-effective to just recruit more Irish and try to keep anyone important out of the line of fire. You probably could armor the front of guys sufficiently to block most shots from the fairly primitive rifles issued to civil war infantry. But those guys are going to be marching at like 1 mph. Once the artillery guys start dropping shells on them and they get outmaneuvered and flanked/encircled by better-armed cavalry or lighter infantry, the result is not going to be pretty. Also the confederates in particular were in no position to use a bunch of metal to armor up their starving prole shithead troops. They were perpetually short of more important things like guns, train tracks, a navy, etc. |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 11:44 PM Author: Cream international law enforcement agency Because there was not steel for armor available during the civil war. Even then ships were using iron. Plentiful good steel was a couple decades away. Plus, you know, heavy and expensive. You are not marching 20 miles a day in an armor plate suit with all your kit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41413438) |
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Date: May 1st, 2021 11:55 AM Author: Judgmental mad-dog skullcap shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#42382113) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2021 4:08 PM Author: Citrine Step-uncle's House Laser Beams (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#42991430) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2021 4:14 PM Author: Judgmental mad-dog skullcap shitlib FYI there is a third HBO WWII miniseries about bomber pilots being made at the moment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masters_of_the_Air (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#42991462) |
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Date: April 16th, 2023 4:46 PM Author: Judgmental mad-dog skullcap shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#46192998) |