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is penn at sticker financial suicide?

For a urm with a couple years of work experience I'm gues...
Comical dark trailer park round eye
  05/07/13
Any other options? Any money from Cornell, UVA, or Duke? Do ...
Thriller pale liquid oxygen
  05/07/13
I'm a liberal arts shit head working an entry level gov type...
Comical dark trailer park round eye
  05/07/13
10 yr pslf is good. trick is actually getting that job.
Adulterous heaven genital piercing
  05/07/13
Lawyers start at 100k+ there. Would I still be eligible?
Comical dark trailer park round eye
  05/07/13
"As a URM with... enough brains to get into Penn...&quo...
Histrionic geriatric church organic girlfriend
  05/07/13
federal loans are free money.
embarrassed to the bone legal warrant
  05/07/13
financial and actual suicide
purple vibrant scourge upon the earth candlestick maker
  05/07/13
its a bad idea if you're currently unemployed. it's an absol...
Balding Diverse Philosopher-king Nibblets
  05/07/13
Isn't Penn almost like CCN Biglaw % levels? Penn URM sou...
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  05/07/13
You forgot the part where he has to last in Biglaw for 4+ ye...
dashing address
  05/07/13
he also forgot the part where he has to live like a bum and ...
Balding Diverse Philosopher-king Nibblets
  05/07/13
What else is he gonna do? BIGMCDONALDS or BIGWELFARE?
Erotic nursing home idea he suggested
  05/07/13
Tbf a URM may have a good shot at good nonlaw options like s...
dashing address
  05/07/13
Yeah, especially if he cops dat Wharton certificate.
Thriller pale liquid oxygen
  05/07/13
keep his gov job with infinite stability and assured upward ...
Haunting pungent wagecucks
  05/07/13
I'd have to go get a master's at some point if I wanted any ...
Comical dark trailer park round eye
  05/07/13
A directly relevant Master's, an MBA, or will any do?
Histrionic geriatric church organic girlfriend
  05/07/13
Yep, penn ranked #1 in the atl employment rankings So tak...
Comical dark trailer park round eye
  05/07/13
Probably not. But best case scenario is you are back to zer...
misanthropic karate
  05/07/13
dont forget where they kill your dog and break into your hou...
Autistic University
  05/07/13
I wouldn't recommend it. Although pretty much all employmen...
Domesticated curious sanctuary
  05/07/13
Not sure about Columbia, but yeah I think Penn over NYU is a...
Thriller pale liquid oxygen
  05/07/13
State college is ridiculously cheap so at least your living ...
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  05/07/13
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Erotic nursing home idea he suggested
  05/07/13
tough call with the football scandal but i think it's ultima...
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Date: May 7th, 2013 1:26 PM
Author: Comical dark trailer park round eye

For a urm with a couple years of work experience

I'm guessing big law 1l and 2l shouldn't be TOO hard to acquire, so some of that would help with loans

Thoughts?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23150894)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 1:28 PM
Author: Thriller pale liquid oxygen

Any other options? Any money from Cornell, UVA, or Duke? Do you really want to be a lawyer?

Coming out of Penn, you'd have a very good chance of getting a biglaw job, but at sticker you'd be working years just to break even. Which is pointless if you don't want to be a lawyer. As a URM with work experience and enough brains to get into Penn, you should be able to do better in another field IMO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23150899)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 1:37 PM
Author: Comical dark trailer park round eye

I'm a liberal arts shit head working an entry level gov type gig. Ideally I'd like to biglaw -> agency I'm at now as a lawyer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23150941)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 1:45 PM
Author: Adulterous heaven genital piercing

10 yr pslf is good. trick is actually getting that job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23150978)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 1:57 PM
Author: Comical dark trailer park round eye

Lawyers start at 100k+ there. Would I still be eligible?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23151046)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 2:40 PM
Author: Histrionic geriatric church organic girlfriend

"As a URM with... enough brains to get into Penn..."

URMs get into HLS with 164s. What do you think it takes for a URM to get into Penn? 159?

One with WE too? 155?

"What else will these thousands of students who have been discouraged from attending law school do? Where will they find a more fulfilling career? They’re not all going to be doctors or investment bankers, nor should they."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23151333)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 1:33 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone legal warrant

federal loans are free money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23150922)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 1:35 PM
Author: purple vibrant scourge upon the earth candlestick maker

financial and actual suicide

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23150934)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 1:56 PM
Author: Balding Diverse Philosopher-king Nibblets

its a bad idea if you're currently unemployed. it's an absolutely terrible idea if you currently have any sort of white collar job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23151037)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 1:59 PM
Author: Erotic nursing home idea he suggested

Isn't Penn almost like CCN Biglaw % levels?

Penn URM sounds pretty good to me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23151052)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 1:59 PM
Author: dashing address

You forgot the part where he has to last in Biglaw for 4+ years to pay off 300k of debt. (Maybe 275k if he can put his 1L/2L cash towards it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23151056)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 2:00 PM
Author: Balding Diverse Philosopher-king Nibblets

he also forgot the part where he has to live like a bum and sit through class/study for exams for three years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23151064)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 2:02 PM
Author: Erotic nursing home idea he suggested

What else is he gonna do? BIGMCDONALDS or BIGWELFARE?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23151071)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 2:02 PM
Author: dashing address

Tbf a URM may have a good shot at good nonlaw options like second tier consulting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23151078)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 2:16 PM
Author: Thriller pale liquid oxygen

Yeah, especially if he cops dat Wharton certificate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23151176)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 2:04 PM
Author: Haunting pungent wagecucks

keep his gov job with infinite stability and assured upward mobility since he's a URM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23151093)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 2:20 PM
Author: Comical dark trailer park round eye

I'd have to go get a master's at some point if I wanted any kind of meaningful promotion.

So one way or another I'm going to be going to graduate school. I actually want to be a lawyer, too. I'd rather do law school than master's in "x"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23151202)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 2:42 PM
Author: Histrionic geriatric church organic girlfriend

A directly relevant Master's, an MBA, or will any do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23151340)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 2:02 PM
Author: Comical dark trailer park round eye

Yep, penn ranked #1 in the atl employment rankings

So take that as you will

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23151074)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 2:02 PM
Author: misanthropic karate

Probably not. But best case scenario is you are back to zero 7 years from now after 3 years of LS and 4 years of 70 hr weeks at biglaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23151077)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 2:05 PM
Author: Autistic University

dont forget where they kill your dog and break into your house to steal things

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23151097)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 2:09 PM
Author: Domesticated curious sanctuary

I wouldn't recommend it. Although pretty much all employment data I have seen indicates that Penn is significantly underrated. I would take Penn at sticker over overpriced NYC shitholes like NYC and Columbia for sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23151125)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 2:10 PM
Author: Thriller pale liquid oxygen

Not sure about Columbia, but yeah I think Penn over NYU is a no-brainer these days.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23151139)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 2:09 PM
Author: indigo stimulating piazza

State college is ridiculously cheap so at least your living expenses will be low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23151130)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 2:09 PM
Author: Erotic nursing home idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23151132)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 2:20 PM
Author: multi-colored voyeur parlour

tough call with the football scandal but i think it's ultimately worth the experience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249631&forum_id=2#23151208)