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Date: July 26th, 2006 12:51 PM Author: Clear racy mexican http://www.slate.com/id/2146218/nav/tap1/
Interesting. I had a friend who lived down the street in the late 80s who had a cedar chest full of *thousands* of baseball cards. He was only about 10 at the time. I was like 'how in the heck did you get all of those?' |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 12:53 PM Author: Indigo contagious rigpig That article made my cry. Thanks for ruining my day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6304677) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 12:54 PM Author: fantasy-prone internal respiration That article actually made me sad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6304686) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 12:55 PM Author: Clear racy mexican well, same here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6304696) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 12:56 PM Author: Indigo contagious rigpig Just gotta hold them for 40 years until they cycle back. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6304701) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:00 PM Author: Stirring emerald dragon blood rage this is how it should be. i hated all those faggots who bought the complete upper deck sets or were saving sealed packages.
topps, man. one pack at a time, no where near mint condition. |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:06 PM Author: lime athletic conference whorehouse Baseball cards were the first way I became conscious of parents' income disparities in our neighborhood growing up. All houses were roughly the same size (one bedroom per kid, all that one would need), but when one kid told us his dad bought him two boxes off Upper Deck's brand new set while we were lucky to get a few packs, we learned the nature of conspicuous consumption. Interestingly, the kids who were excessively rewarded tended to get ostracised. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6304779) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:29 PM Author: henna gunner Seriously. I remember desperately trying to trade all my Topps superstar cards for a single mediocre player's Upper Deck cards. My parents absolutely refused to let me even buy a pack of Upper Decks. It was Fleer, Score and Topps for me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6304975) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:38 PM Author: Indigo contagious rigpig I was exclusively Topps (with occasional dabbling in Donruss), then I got into the first rounds of Upper Deck. I really liked UD at first, and even Collector's Choice, but soon UD and all the others got out of control. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6305067) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:42 PM Author: henna gunner Oh yeah, I totally forgot about Donruss. Basically, I was willing to collect any company that offered a pack for $.50 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6305102) |
Date: July 26th, 2006 12:55 PM Author: narrow-minded roast beef stag film fuck. I spent an assload of money on that shit when I was a little kid, and I still have them all. I even bought the 1983 Fleer Set, in 1988, for like $45 (I was 12 at the time, that was a lot of money). PWN3D. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6304691) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 12:59 PM Author: crusty zombie-like stock car cruise ship Ambition: Wave of the Future (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6304721) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:01 PM Author: fantasy-prone internal respiration http://www.cardschat.com/showthread.php?t=52793 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6304739) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:02 PM Author: crusty zombie-like stock car cruise ship ":While Ambition's not totally obscure (the game is played independently of me and my personal associates, and has an estimated 2000 players worldwide, mostly in North America and Japan) this is probably the first time you have heard of Ambition."
I love you so much. |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:54 PM Author: Boyish school "Because of its unusual multiplicity of objectives and strategic biodiversity, it's a very deep game that invites very intricate analyses."
Jesus Christ. |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:02 PM Author: lime athletic conference whorehouse Also pwned. He's absolutely right about how the card companies plus mature investors ruined their long term value. I remember always making sure I'd go with my mom or dad when they went shopping, because I could throw in a few packs since they were cheap. Then it got to the point where packs were over $5 apiece and they had eight cards instead of fifteen. I was 13 and didn't want to get a job just to fund my habit, so I stopped collecting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6304749) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:05 PM Author: narrow-minded roast beef stag film does anyone have an info regarding card values dropping in the 1950s and 1960s? Is this stuff cyclical? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6304772) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:07 PM Author: lime athletic conference whorehouse I'm sure there will be a price rise some time in the next forty years, when they become a "cool" commodity or something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6304784) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:12 PM Author: Stirring emerald dragon blood rage even the cards that are worthless now will increase in value when we're all old and willing to pay good money to indulge in nostalgia.
the last time i visited my parents i flipped through a box of old cards, and it's still pretty fun to look at their stats and the goofy facts they would put on their like "named his first son bubble gum." |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:08 PM Author: Stirring emerald dragon blood rage i just hope my yo! mtv raps cards hold their value. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6304790) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2007 4:38 PM Author: supple unholy sweet tailpipe set ...not to mention my Drake's cards :) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#8287047) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:53 PM Author: Bateful Temple The decline in modern card values isn't cyclical. There is so much unopened inventory of the late 70's, 80's, and 90's that that material will essentially never have much value.
This is why anyone looking to maintain any value in their investment should stick to vintage. |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 10:04 PM Author: Filthy half-breed place of business As far as I can tell they had no value to rise or fall at that time...consistent, annual sets really didn't even begin until the early 1950's - before Topps, there were only short runs of several years by various manufacturers, and they were generally add-ons to other products.
It seems to me that they may have been gradually rising in value before they boomed, but if anything the popularity surge would have to be looked back upon as a reference point for future swings. However, short of another boom in the still-rare older cards (which I'm sure will happen from time to time), I'm not sure what could really emerge from the 90's-on sets that would ever be scarce enough to command any kind of money.
Its more important that there is a surge in popularity though - maybe there is an identifiable pattern in that from the 50's through the early 90's, I don't know.
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Date: June 22nd, 2007 4:55 PM Author: histrionic gaming laptop azn the problem is that there is just a comparative fuckton of inventory compared to the period prior to the 70s. Then add int eh fact that there are fuckton of serious collectors who have tons of shit in mint condition, unlike in the 50s when kids would use cards as noisemakers on tehir bicycle spokes. baseball cards will never be worth shit. Their might develop a nice market in the future, but there is still going to be way more than enough to fill that market. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#8287095) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2007 4:57 PM Author: arousing headpube Cards from the 50s and 60s have actually stayed somewhat constant despite the almost complete worthlessness of anything made after 1980.
It won't last though. Once the baby-boomers start dying off, the 50s and 60s cards will drop too. Mickey Mantle is no more than a name for people from my generation. |
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Date: June 22nd, 2007 5:02 PM Author: histrionic gaming laptop azn I don't really believe that. The number of those cards is so small and there will always be enough fanatics to keep the market for those cards alive. none of the baby boomers saw honus wagner play. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#8287125) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2007 5:06 PM Author: arousing headpube Only a handful of honus wagner cards exist, the cards from the 50's and 60's aren't that scarce.
More importantly, most kids today have never owned a baseball card. They aren't gonna all the sudden become fanatics when they are fifty. |
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Date: June 22nd, 2007 5:09 PM Author: histrionic gaming laptop azn mint condition cards from the 50s are pretty scarce. That will be enough to keep those prices high because real collectors only want mint. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#8287140) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:11 PM Author: Green heaven Those "Wacky Cards" or whatever are still going to be worth something, right? I have hundreds of those things. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6304821) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:23 PM Author: henna gunner I was just going to post this link too.
How depressing. |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:25 PM Author: talking casino digit ratio saddest thread I've read in a while. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6304939) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:30 PM Author: shimmering institution Reminder: Magic: the Gathering Alpha cards still sell for up to several hundred dollars each. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6304983) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:35 PM Author: henna gunner I've never seen so many comments on a single article on Slate's fray before. The writer really nailed this one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6305027) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:58 PM Author: maroon startled box office This only means that cards will become more rare and over time will gain more value. In the 90s, the market was saturated and the effects lasted for a long time. I'd assume a cycle exists within the baseball card industry just like any other. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6305253) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 2:03 PM Author: Translucent flickering menage volcanic crater What abot my pogs? Are they still worth anything :( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6305288) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 9:37 PM Author: Stirring emerald dragon blood rage i just bought a box of unopened 1987 topps and 1990 scores cards (that's 36 packs each) on ebay for $24 total. think of how little these cards must be worth if people are selling them at a loss based on 1986 prices not adjusted for inflation.
i'll bump this thread if i get anything good or if the gum kills me. |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 9:52 PM Author: swashbuckling locale Now, see, this is just going to make me go on ebay sometime when drunk and buy a bunch of boxes of baseball cards. Nothing brought me greater joy as a youngster than tearing through one of those badboys with my trusy Beckett by my side. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6309240) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 10:09 PM Author: Filthy half-breed place of business You just gave me an idea - don't just buy the old boxes, but actually use the old Becketts to value the cards and relive childhood.
I wonder if they still publish those card modification deals (i.e. Chili Davis with a winter coat drawn on). It was my dream to have one of mine published. |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 10:20 PM Author: swashbuckling locale Haha I made so many of those fake baseball cards (daryl Strawberry with a strawberry for a head, comes to mind - not terribly creative, given that this was submitted virtually every other month). I have no idea why I no longer have any Becketts rotting in my parents basement along with my old baseball card collection. Possibly because I cannibalized them all for wallhangings when I was 14 or so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6309443) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 10:31 PM Author: Filthy half-breed place of business yeah the chili davis example was all I could come up with because I attempted that very product with a 91 Donruss, with some success I might add (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6309531) |
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Date: February 27th, 2007 1:02 PM Author: zippy space water buffalo If I had to pick one visual symbol of my childhood, a 1987 Topps card would be one of the final candidates for sure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#7678000) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 9:40 PM Author: Lascivious sepia site You see, women knew this all along. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6309135) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 10:11 PM Author: Nudist Nofapping Boltzmann Women also tried to catch butterflies with the internets. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6309374) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 9:40 PM Author: narrow-minded roast beef stag film what about garbage pail kids? I have the complete third series. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6309140) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 9:44 PM Author: Electric psychic http://cgi.ebay.com/Garbage-Pail-Kids-Series-3-Complete-88-card-set_W0QQitemZ130009839088QQihZ003QQcategoryZ219QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6309173) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 9:47 PM Author: narrow-minded roast beef stag film that fucking sucks! THose things were a couple bucks per pack of 5-10, like back in the 80s!
That's it, I am never allowing my kids to collect ANYTHING! Fuck what the rich Jewish kids say is "cool" to collect (the only reason I collected any of this Garbage Pail Kids or Baseball cards bullshit is because of the rich Jewish kids at my school!) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 9:53 PM Author: Electric psychic Too many people hoarded stockpiles of cards. Shoulda flipped them within a few months of getting them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6309248) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 10:27 PM Author: Flushed multi-colored haunted graveyard corner What about basketball, NHL, and NFL cards? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6309498) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 10:35 PM Author: Filthy half-breed place of business these were always worthless...unfortunately I was suckered into basketball for a few years
poor imitations, completely lacking the history that makes baseball cards more than just a stupid fad |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 10:37 PM Author: Flushed multi-colored haunted graveyard corner Are Upper Deck baseball cards worth anything? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#6309569) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2007 5:01 PM Author: arousing headpube I preferred them. Not nearly as many joe schmoe's to filter out. The Jordan rookie card still has value. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#8287112) |
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Date: February 27th, 2007 12:35 PM Author: Translucent flickering menage volcanic crater Subject: One exception... Honus Wagner baseball card sells for record $2.3 million Posted: Tuesday Feb 27, 2007 1:33 AM Free E-mail AlertsE-mail ThisPrint ThisSave ThisMost PopularRSS Aggregators
LOS ANGELES (AP) -The "Holy Grail of baseball cards,'' the famous 1909 Honus Wagner tobacco card once owned by hockey great Wayne Gretzky, has sold for a record-setting $2.35 million, the seller of the card said Monday.
The buyer has only been identified as a Southern California collector. SCP Auctions Inc., a company that holds sports memorabilia auctions, said it bought a small share of the card. It is scheduled to be shown at a news conference at Dodger Stadium on Tuesday.
There are about 60 of the tobacco cards in existence featuring the Pittsburgh Pirates shortstop, one of the first five players to be inducted in Baseball's Hall of Fame.
The seller, Brian Seigel, in 2000 paid a then-record $1,265,000 for the prize card, which is in much better shape than the others.
"This particular one was preserved in spectacular condition,'' said Joe Orlando, president of Professional Sports Authenticator of Newport Beach - the company that certified the authenticity of the card. "It's the Holy Grail of baseball cards.''
Still, the Wagner cards are so rare that even tattered ones will sell for hundreds of thousands of dollars, Seigel said.
The others "you could stick in middle of the street and let cars drive over it through the day, take it in your hand and crumple it up, and it still would be a $100,000 card,'' said Seigel, CEO of Emerald Capital LLC, an asset management company, who lives in Las Vegas.
Gretzky and Bruce McNall, former owner of the Los Angeles Kings, bought the card for $451,000 in 1991.
During his ownership of the card, Seigel displayed it at several sports collectible shows, showed it at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library and Museum and at brought it to opening bell ceremonies for the NASDAQ stock exchange in New York.
"The Wagner card gave me a tremendous amount of pride, excitement and pleasure,'' he said. "I hope the new owner will have the same satisfaction I enjoyed over the years.''
The tobacco cards used to be included in packs of cigarettes. Collectors believe Wagner's cards are rare because he stopped allowing the American Tobacco Co. to use his image, fearing it would encourage children to smoke.
Nicknamed the "Flying Dutchman,'' Wagner was the National League batting champion in eight of his 21 seasons and finished his career with a lifetime .329 average. He retired in 1917 with more hits, runs, RBIs, doubles, triples steals than any National League player. |
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Date: June 22nd, 2007 4:44 PM Author: Indigo contagious rigpig *checks collection* Nope, still worthless. |
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Date: June 22nd, 2007 4:49 PM Author: Lavender lay I remember playing some old baseball board game I found in my grandma's attic where you used the actual baseball cards you owned and the stats on the back to play. I would waste entire weekends trying to make the ultimate team and playing my friends in that. I ended up bending the hell out of my dad's Nolan Ryan rookie card but he still sold it to a card shop for like $2k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#8287078) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2007 4:51 PM Author: Marvelous cuckoldry tanning salon That sounds like something that could be turned into a great drinking game. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#8287083) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2007 5:00 PM Author: Slate House Antidepressant Drug I thought the same thing about law school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#8287111) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2007 5:14 PM Author: Marvelous cuckoldry tanning salon I thought law school IS a great drinking game. Kill self for being a 1L next year? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#8287156) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2007 5:02 PM Author: talented office double fault ;( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#8287122) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2007 5:54 PM Author: painfully honest cuckold spot About a year ago after reading a similar article (or maybe this one?) I went on eBay and bought a 1987 topps wax box. It cost me less than they did in 1987. But it was fun to open them with my nephews. I am surprised he said the gum was "no staler" than it was back in the day. Because the gum in this box was absolutely putrid. It immediately dissolved into tiny bits of terrible-tasting dust when I tried to chew it. I have a large collection, probably worth over $20k at the peak. Now worth little, except for the old, old ones I have. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#8287266) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2007 5:57 PM Author: tantric copper church building kitty cat What about my hand-collected set of "Pro Set" Desert Storm cards? Should I have completed the set of "Operation Enduring Freedom" cards I started in 2002? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#8287275) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2007 6:09 PM Author: Navy business firm Fuck, there goes my retirement plan! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=462027&forum_id=2#8287327) |
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