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Is the economic recovery a vindication of Keynes?
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Date: May 5th, 2013 12:38 PM Author: abusive doctorate Not flame. Post serious replies if you have an actual thought on this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2247842&forum_id=2#23137809) |
Date: May 5th, 2013 12:40 PM Author: Odious shimmering fat ankles what recovery (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2247842&forum_id=2#23137814) |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 12:40 PM Author: onyx macaca yarmulke what economic recovery? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2247842&forum_id=2#23137815) |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 12:43 PM Author: milky electric furnace preventive strike In response to "what recovery"
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 3:03 PM Author: chestnut hairraiser keepsake machete Keynes will be vindicated when our debt is "sustainable." One of the obvious fatal flaws of Keynesianism is that politicians in a democracy are not responsible enough to save during the boom, nor do they make wise economic investments during the bust. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2247842&forum_id=2#23138578) |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 3:07 PM Author: mahogany zombie-like school (two-time bush voting "libertarian" supporter of the iraq war, medicare part D, concerned about sustainable debt) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2247842&forum_id=2#23138609) |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 3:18 PM Author: chestnut hairraiser keepsake machete (guy who adds literally nothing to the debate) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2247842&forum_id=2#23138680) |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 4:15 PM Author: mahogany zombie-like school (two-time bush voting "libertarian" supporter of the iraq war, medicare part D, concerned about sustainable debt) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2247842&forum_id=2#23139046) |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 3:15 PM Author: Iridescent Mood Den " One of the obvious fatal flaws of Keynesianism is that politicians in a democracy are not responsible enough to save during the boom"
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" One of the obvious fatal flaws of Keynesianism is that fucktards like Bush was not responsible enough to save during the boom" |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 3:17 PM Author: chestnut hairraiser keepsake machete So should Obama be saving now that we have recovered? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2247842&forum_id=2#23138678) |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 4:16 PM Author: mahogany zombie-like school (two-time bush voting "libertarian" supporter of the iraq war, medicare part D, concerned about sustainable debt) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2247842&forum_id=2#23139049) |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 12:44 PM Author: Buck-toothed community account serious reply: it will be if it holds up and keeps going, but the "recovery" is very weak right now and there's a lot of hand wringing over what will happen when interest rates go up. jury is still out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2247842&forum_id=2#23137828) |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 12:50 PM Author: milky electric furnace preventive strike why would interest rates going modestly up throw the economy into recession? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2247842&forum_id=2#23137853) |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 3:06 PM Author: chestnut hairraiser keepsake machete Define "modestly." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2247842&forum_id=2#23138600) |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 12:50 PM Author: Sooty contagious senate what economic recovery are you speaking of? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2247842&forum_id=2#23137858) |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 12:51 PM Author: salmon curious site bbw stimulus was nipped in the bud by teatards (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2247842&forum_id=2#23137865) |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 12:55 PM Author: Light gay wizard Just because the economy will marginally improve over time doesn't mean massive stimulus worked.
Reminder: economies naturally grow. Its what they do. |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 12:57 PM Author: salmon curious site bbw OP is obviously a conservatard troll, moron (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2247842&forum_id=2#23137904) |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 3:07 PM Author: chestnut hairraiser keepsake machete Not with a shrinking labor force. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2247842&forum_id=2#23138607) |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 1:01 PM Author: nofapping obsidian stage Not sure that QE can be described as bread and butter Keynesianism, and to be clear the actions of the Fed are vastly more important to the modestly improving growth we've seen than anything on the fiscal side. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2247842&forum_id=2#23137930) |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 1:02 PM Author: Aphrodisiac plaza there has been no labor force participation rate recovery, which is all that really matters from a social cohesion point of view. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2247842&forum_id=2#23137939) |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 1:05 PM Author: abusive doctorate Follow-up (OP here): why would an interest rate raise of 1-2 percentage points throw the economy into recession? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2247842&forum_id=2#23137960) |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 2:54 PM Author: alcoholic immigrant factory reset button it increases borrowing costs for the govt which discourages govt spending.
it drives down the value of existing bonds
it draws money out of the stock and real estate markets because it increases borrowing costs and becomes a more attractive alternative investment.
another wild card is the trillions of dollars of derivative bets which may or may not explode if interest rates rise.
i think it's a bit of a misunderstanding to say that rising IRs will lead to recession since there are many economists who think its a necessary condition for a real economic recovery. let's just say that our current model of economic "recovery" would collapse if interest rates began to rise. |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 2:44 PM Author: abusive doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2247842&forum_id=2#23138481) |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 2:45 PM Author: dun juggernaut Considering the fact that Krugman keeps calling for extremely large amounts of stimulus, I wouldn't call what has happened so far Keynesianism. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2247842&forum_id=2#23138489) |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 3:19 PM Author: chestnut hairraiser keepsake machete (Naive douche) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2247842&forum_id=2#23138691) |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 2:46 PM Author: mint soul-stirring business firm skinny woman No, I do not think anywhere Keynes thought that propping up the bubble economy through unlimited pumping of money resulted in stability. Read some Stockman for fuck's sake. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2247842&forum_id=2#23138491) |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 2:47 PM Author: Ruby Puppy we are on the brink of economic prolapse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2247842&forum_id=2#23138498) |
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Date: May 5th, 2013 4:18 PM Author: Thriller casino Of course not. No Keynesian economic policies were implemented during the recession. Keynes never advocates giving money to banks, he advocated increased gov't hiring in massive public works programs. Duh.
QED mothafugga |