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Q: You = rep P in jury trial against D for fraud; want dishonest ppl on jury?

theory is that dishonest people are more likely to recognize...
Big Business Firm
  07/12/24
First factor outweighs second, because fraudulent liars don'...
dun arousing indian lodge
  07/12/24
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Big Business Firm
  07/12/24
Really good question. I agree--first factor outweighs secon...
marvelous twisted pozpig
  07/12/24
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Big Business Firm
  07/12/24


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Date: July 12th, 2024 12:34 PM
Author: Big Business Firm

theory is that dishonest people are more likely to recognize lies. honest people might be more willing to credit coincidences or mistakes as explanations for the fraud.

But would dishonest people want to help out the fraudster either intentionally or subconsciously because they empathize with them?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5554205&forum_id=2#47834406)



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Date: July 12th, 2024 12:39 PM
Author: dun arousing indian lodge

First factor outweighs second, because fraudulent liars don't have normal levels of empathy, even as applies to similar people. Their behavior is built on valuing self over others, thinking they won't get caught, and rationalizing that they deserve to have what they want. This logic does not extend to some other guy who has been caught and is now in the process of being publicly challenged. But they will understand why and how he did it, whereas a 100% legit honest upstanding citizens with no fraud experience will credit nonsense defense arguments like "oops sloppy record-keeping" or "this otherwise competent and experienced person forgot that you can't just make up numbers."

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5554205&forum_id=2#47834429)



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Date: July 12th, 2024 2:51 PM
Author: Big Business Firm



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Date: July 12th, 2024 3:47 PM
Author: marvelous twisted pozpig

Really good question. I agree--first factor outweighs second.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5554205&forum_id=2#47835097)



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Date: July 12th, 2024 3:50 PM
Author: Big Business Firm



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5554205&forum_id=2#47835100)