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Black Guy, in undergrad, currently applying to law school. ...
Heady fat ankles
  03/09/10
what are your other options?
Useless orchestra pit tank
  03/09/10
nothing immediate job-wise. basically my alternative is to c...
Heady fat ankles
  03/09/10
any money at CLS?
Pearl parlor jew
  03/09/10
No merit money, "need-based" award is my only hope...
Heady fat ankles
  03/09/10
Don't go to Chicago, you won't do well there. Columbia isn'...
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  03/09/10
what makes you say that (not necessarily disagreeing with yo...
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  03/09/10
You will get $ at CCN. I am not URM, but I got aprx. 30k fro...
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  03/09/10
Thanks man. I think I'm going to make my decision under the...
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  03/09/10
Sure, np. I wouldn't go making assumptions like that, by the...
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  03/09/10
Thanks for the scoop. I def wont go into law school with a ...
Heady fat ankles
  03/09/10
Sure. Come to ASW, if you can. You can directly speak with o...
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  03/09/10
Edit: There is a char out there with the % placed in Big Law...
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  03/09/10
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Ebony Regret
  11/12/11
stats?
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  03/09/10
above 25th% gpa/mid 160s lsat...typical harvard&stanford...
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  03/09/10
how are you graduating summa with a gpa that is "above ...
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  04/08/10
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Heady fat ankles
  04/08/10
You're smart for thinking this way. Don't go unless you hear...
Self-absorbed Newt Library
  03/09/10
Yea, kinda sucks tho. Feels kinda weird walking away from s...
Heady fat ankles
  03/09/10
I don't know too many 2L URMS, but I know quite a few 1L URM...
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  03/09/10
oh wow, that's good news. Do you know how they performed ac...
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  03/09/10
IDK how they did, to be honest. One of the girls I know did ...
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  03/09/10
I know more than a handful of URMs at HYS who have 1L SA off...
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  03/09/10
Oh cool, thanks for the info. What's the timeline for 1L re...
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  03/09/10
Timeline is the same as for other 1Ls. Send your stuff Decem...
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  03/09/10
You can send off your resume/cover letter post-Dec 1st (NALP...
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  03/09/10
Thanks guys!
Heady fat ankles
  03/09/10
Sure. I got my first offer, if I remember correctly, probabl...
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  03/09/10
So, at some point the biglaw firm asks for your Fall grades ...
Heady fat ankles
  03/09/10
It depends on the firm. I basically e-mailed about 150 firms...
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  03/09/10
Just imagine how much it would suck if you were held to norm...
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  04/08/10
...
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  04/08/10
FUCKIN NIGGER!!!!
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  03/09/10
I fucked that shit up guys sorry. I missed the memory thing ...
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  03/09/10
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tcr
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  12/13/11
PSA: S is for people rejected from H.
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  12/13/11
(guy who was clearly rejected from S)
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  12/13/11
Never applied. East Coast kids don't go to West Coast school...
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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:28 AM
Author: Heady fat ankles

Black Guy, in undergrad, currently applying to law school. Still havent gotten decisions from HYS, but swept the rest of the T14 so far. Honestly, anything below HYS wasnt part of my original plans, but its lookin like CCN may end up being my highest ranked options...but I'm not sure I'm comfortable with that ITE.

Advice? Thanks

Edit: Havent gotten anything bigger than half rides from lower T14s. Biglaw ambitions, was really looking forward to the HYS no-grades, but not sure whether my grades will matter as a ccn urm anyway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14338663)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:31 AM
Author: Useless orchestra pit tank

what are your other options?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14338701)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:33 AM
Author: Heady fat ankles

nothing immediate job-wise. basically my alternative is to chill for a year and go back to the drawing board.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14338728)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:33 AM
Author: Pearl parlor jew

any money at CLS?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14338729)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:35 AM
Author: Heady fat ankles

No merit money, "need-based" award is my only hope for cls

Got ~$25k from chicago. waiting for most schools still, but got no named scholarships up front, so i'm not holding my breath

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14338748)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:37 AM
Author: Cracking insecure sweet tailpipe hell

Don't go to Chicago, you won't do well there. Columbia isn't a terrible option ite

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14338774)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:39 AM
Author: Heady fat ankles

what makes you say that (not necessarily disagreeing with you)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14338795)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:45 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good jade community account brunch

You will get $ at CCN. I am not URM, but I got aprx. 30k from Chicago, and CLS gave a tiny bit more to match and go beyond it. There was none from NYU, though. I think they had a rough year with their investments when I applied, last cycle.

I can tell you that of the 2Ls with whom I have spoken, the general consensus is that if you are median or above, you have an OK shot at BigLaw ITE. Top 1/3 and above has a very good shot. From 1/3 to median still has an OK shot. Below median did not do too well. I know quite a few 2Ls that have BigLaw, though.

There is still a ton of URM 1L BigLaw recruiting, here. It didn't seem to slow down that much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14338869)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:51 AM
Author: Heady fat ankles

Thanks man. I think I'm going to make my decision under the assumption that I end up below median, as 1) I'm risk averse and 2)that's where 1/2 of the class (and, frankly, most minorities) end up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14338939)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:54 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good jade community account brunch

Sure, np. I wouldn't go making assumptions like that, by the way. If you have the wrong attitude, you won't do well. Sorry that I can't give better URM stats. I can say that firms do come here and host events for 'networking purposes--' most of them are for the entire student body, but some of them have been specifically for 'diversity.' So, they still have interest in this, I am taking it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14338974)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:58 AM
Author: Heady fat ankles

Thanks for the scoop. I def wont go into law school with a losing attitude, I'm graduating summa from an ivy ug so I'm confident in my abilities. But I def want to be uber-conservative when making a six figure investment/bet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14339000)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 1:00 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good jade community account brunch

Sure. Come to ASW, if you can. You can directly speak with other AA students to get a general idea, if you want. I think there is one more of those ASWs left. We had one last week; I think there is another.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14339028)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:47 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good jade community account brunch

Edit: There is a char out there with the % placed in Big Law of class of 09. CLS was #2, after NU. It wasn't pretty, 55%, when the year before it was about 80% placed in BigLaw. Just for your general information.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14338882)



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Date: November 12th, 2011 11:07 AM
Author: Ebony Regret



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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:37 AM
Author: olive friendly grandma plaza

stats?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14338769)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:40 AM
Author: Heady fat ankles

above 25th% gpa/mid 160s lsat...typical harvard&stanford urm stats (or so I thought)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14338808)



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Date: April 8th, 2010 1:22 PM
Author: Drunken Cuckoldry Dysfunction

how are you graduating summa with a gpa that is "above 25th%?"

is it also above the 75th?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14645043)



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Date: April 8th, 2010 3:13 PM
Author: Heady fat ankles

no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14646183)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:41 AM
Author: Self-absorbed Newt Library

You're smart for thinking this way. Don't go unless you hear back from HYS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14338828)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:47 AM
Author: Heady fat ankles

Yea, kinda sucks tho. Feels kinda weird walking away from such "great" schools. Dont wanna come across as an entitled jerk, I just don't want to create debt problems for myself.

Anybody know how t14 blacks are doing ITE? Are they struggling too?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14338881)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:49 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good jade community account brunch

I don't know too many 2L URMS, but I know quite a few 1L URMS here, CLS, who have gotten 1L SA gigs, if that serves as any indication. (URM=AA and Latinos)

Edit: SA 1L gigs in BigLaw; same pay as 2L SAs; there are still a lot of diversity initiative programs, that sort of thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14338908)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:53 AM
Author: Heady fat ankles

oh wow, that's good news. Do you know how they performed academically? What I really wanna know is, will my grades matter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14338958)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:58 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good jade community account brunch

IDK how they did, to be honest. One of the girls I know did go to HYP, if that is any indication. I didn't have class with her, so I can't tell how well she knew her stuff.

A buddy of mine is Latino, and he usually seems pretty good about knowing the concepts. I would imagine he landed somewhere around top 1/3. He is working in a smaller market this summer, though.

Besides knowing those two, I don't have any ideas about the others. Just general rumors you hear, that is all. I still know the firms are recruiting for that sort of stuff, so I am assuming more have been hired under these programs--we have a website that posts different job openings, and quite a few firms still have 1L summer diversity program hiring.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14338999)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 1:17 AM
Author: soul-stirring genital piercing

I know more than a handful of URMs at HYS who have 1L SA offers and none through diversity programs. Three were Ivy UG and the other four weren't. Not sure of grades although one is going to a V5 so I'm sure his grades were very good.

Otherwise, offers I know of were from V15-V40 range.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14339193)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 1:36 AM
Author: Heady fat ankles

Oh cool, thanks for the info. What's the timeline for 1L recruiting? I'll probably be doing SEO this summer if I go to law school, so hopefully I'd already have my foot in the door

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14339354)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 1:48 AM
Author: soul-stirring genital piercing

Timeline is the same as for other 1Ls. Send your stuff December 1 or after finals. No worries if you send after finals, despite what batshit crazy 1Ls might tell you. A lot of the jobs came from 1L OCI and the opportunities were posted on Symplicity. If you do SEO, you'll have a mountain of offers. Those I know who did SEO had many more biglaw interviews than others.

Good luck!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14339426)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 1:50 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good jade community account brunch

You can send off your resume/cover letter post-Dec 1st (NALP guidelines).

Firms don't really start hiring until after New Yrs. If you do public interest stuff, some of them hire pretty soon after Dec, but more along the lines of after New Yrs, too. Lining up your interviews during your break is ideal.

But, most people get jobs, I wold guess, starting in Feb. A bulk of the interviewing is in Jan, though, and quite a bit in Feb., too. At this point, it seems to be wrapping up pretty much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14339439)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 1:55 AM
Author: Heady fat ankles

Thanks guys!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14339466)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 2:06 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good jade community account brunch

Sure. I got my first offer, if I remember correctly, probably the second week in Jan. This was pretty early, and it was PI stuff. I got a few firm offers, but they were abroad and, thus, didn't pay market at all. I got some more PI stuff after that, and I didn't completely settle on what I wanted until a few weeks ago, I would estimate (gov job). So, all in, it was about a three-moth process for me, from when I started mailing stuff in Dec to interviewing in Jan to deciding finally in Feb. I think that is pretty typical, but I do know people who had jobs before exams (mid-Dec), and I know some people still without jobs (they will get something--they are just holding out for something 'better,' but they have offers).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14339531)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 2:08 AM
Author: Heady fat ankles

So, at some point the biglaw firm asks for your Fall grades before they make their final decision, right? Is that on a firm-by-firm basis or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14339539)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 2:12 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good jade community account brunch

It depends on the firm. I basically e-mailed about 150 firms with my cover letter and resume in the areas I liked/had connections. I would estimate 90% of the firms in America told me they had no summer program being offered. The ones that did get back to me asked for my grades, and I interviewed with a couple of them after submitting my grades. No bites. The firms abroad did not ask for my grades, and they made decisions based on interviews. I got offers at probably about 50% of them, but not at the ones that I really wanted (the ones that paid big $).

So, I guess how to take it is that the American firms will ask, but the firms abroad will not ask.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14339558)



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Date: April 8th, 2010 3:19 PM
Author: cheese-eating location

Just imagine how much it would suck if you were held to normal standards and your mid-160's LSAT would ding you at the T30. HTH FAGGOT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14646225)



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Date: April 8th, 2010 3:23 PM
Author: Heady fat ankles



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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:44 AM
Author: frum university

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14338861)



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Date: March 9th, 2010 1:42 AM
Author: Bateful roommate

I fucked that shit up guys sorry. I missed the memory thing and couldn't find an opening in time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14339393)



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Date: April 8th, 2010 12:45 PM
Author: Orange provocative gay wizard

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#14644820)



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Date: April 8th, 2010 3:14 PM
Author: Heady fat ankles



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Date: December 13th, 2011 3:11 AM
Author: iridescent free-loading home macaca



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Date: December 13th, 2011 10:28 AM
Author: Brindle Antidepressant Drug Nibblets

how many white girls have you slept with?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#19560532)



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Date: December 13th, 2011 11:37 AM
Author: Bull headed excitant boltzmann

tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#19560801)



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Date: December 13th, 2011 10:59 AM
Author: exciting kitty liquid oxygen

PSA: S is for people rejected from H.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#19560655)



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Date: December 13th, 2011 11:10 AM
Author: Sickened Diverse Step-uncle's House

(guy who was clearly rejected from S)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#19560699)



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Date: December 13th, 2011 12:07 PM
Author: exciting kitty liquid oxygen

Never applied. East Coast kids don't go to West Coast schools, unless they've been rejected from east coast schools.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#19560942)



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Date: December 13th, 2011 11:38 AM
Author: Bull headed excitant boltzmann

Dude on the bright side, you are a well-educated, articulate black dude. If you are even like a 5/10, you will get awesome pussy for the rest of your life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245391&forum_id=2#19560805)