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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:01 AM Author: Chartreuse selfie alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428619) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:02 AM Author: floppy avocado windowlicker school cafeteria When's your novel coming out? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428622) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:02 AM Author: Spectacular background story crackhouse tcq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428623) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:04 AM Author: Chartreuse selfie alpha My next novel? I've written ten. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428629) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:05 AM Author: floppy avocado windowlicker school cafeteria Yeah bro, of course your next novel. Gotta stay relevant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428635) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:08 AM Author: Chartreuse selfie alpha September. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428642) |
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Date: June 20th, 2013 2:03 AM Author: transparent international law enforcement agency trailer park lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23434911) |
Date: June 19th, 2013 4:03 AM Author: Buff candlestick maker how feasible to mkae living doing freelance writing while doing own fiction on the side? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428625) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:04 AM Author: Arrogant nubile doctorate national you'll get in everywhere you apply. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428631) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:05 AM Author: federal locale volcanic crater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428634) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:05 AM Author: Chartreuse selfie alpha Freelance writing varies wildly. You shouldn't count on it for a living. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428632) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:06 AM Author: Buff candlestick maker i take it even most writers who have published with major houses can't make a living off of their writing alone? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428638) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:12 AM Author: Chartreuse selfie alpha Assuming you're talking about fiction, no. I work as a lawyer.
Fiction writing brings me an extra 10-20 K a year. Most writers teach writing classes and hope Hollywood stops making dumb comic book films sometime this century. |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:13 AM Author: Arrogant nubile doctorate national "Fiction writing brings me an extra 10-20 K a year" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428654) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:13 AM Author: Spectacular background story crackhouse TY (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428655) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:16 AM Author: Bateful property deer antler dude, every time i see a new comic book film i want to throw the tv screen against the wall. inevitably, a friend will ask me if i want to go see the "new" Superman or Iron Man movie. they aren't new. they're all the EXACT SAME SHIT! Batman's primary suspense technique? Some sort of time limitation. Everything is a fuckin race against time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428665) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 5:03 AM Author: Cyan church guys in my hs practiced law and wrote 10 novels and posted on internet message boards all the time it was no big deal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428758) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:17 AM Author: Bateful property deer antler have you written a novel? how long was it and how long did it take you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428667) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:25 AM Author: Chartreuse selfie alpha Publishing my tenth this fall.
By far, the longest one was my first. That took five years. Most of the time was lost procrastinating. You want to match the writers who've inspired you, and you end up setting your lousy drafts against their finest work, and it paralyzes you. That was my experience at least.
Then I just got over being Shakespeare and wrote three pages a day, rain or shine. Sometimes they sucked. Sometimes you hit something pretty neat. After three months, you have a manuscript.
This last book took me about six months. But look, if you're Shakespeare, take your time and get it right. |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:27 AM Author: razzle-dazzle navy lay do you know any writers besides shakespeare (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428685) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:27 AM Author: Chartreuse selfie alpha No. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428687) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 7:41 PM Author: Pearl station underrated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23432414) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:33 AM Author: Bateful property deer antler cool. what did you do after you finished the writing part of your first novel? did you publish it? how? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428701) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:44 AM Author: Chartreuse selfie alpha Immediately after? I got drunk and fucked some bar skank.
I took about a month to edit it, then spent another three months agonizing over a query letter (it's not that hard). You send the letter with maybe the first ten pages to an agent.
After a few tries, I found someone. That turned into a six month hunt for a publisher, an almost book deal that fell through, and then a last-minute reprieve from another publisher. Nine months later, they printed it. It sold decently, but not spectacularly. |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 5:16 PM Author: Bateful property deer antler tyft. how did that publisher sell your book? bookstores? online? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23431541) |
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Date: June 20th, 2013 1:58 AM Author: Chartreuse selfie alpha For my first novel, newspaper profiles, regional book signings and one TV interview (thankfully before the days of YouTube...I was pretty stiff and awkward). I drove to Barnes, Waldens, etc. with maybe 100 books in the trunk, talk for a bit, get discreetly sozzled, and sign. Amazon was still pretty new: I don't think anyone bought my first book online.
As a share of my writing income, online sales are an increasing part, but you can't beat shelf space. I'm guessing most of these are people who bought a previous book. Nobody's going to find me on Amazon by accident, and promoting online is tough. My agent will sometimes pitch ideas for a website or a blog, but I need a certain level of privacy and remove from readers to write.
I do a good trade at writing conferences. |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:20 AM Author: Bonkers rigpig psychic you're a fiction writer just by virtue of the thread title. no requirement that you have to get paid. i myself have written and published fiction to the internet through XOXO since 2007. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428676) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:29 AM Author: Chartreuse selfie alpha Well, I get paid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428690) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:20 AM Author: razzle-dazzle navy lay lol at fiction writers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428677) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:32 AM Author: Orchid Lodge how did you find an editor/publisher? who does you're cover art? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428698) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:41 AM Author: Chartreuse selfie alpha I sent query letters to agents. Eventually one liked my book and found a publisher.
The publishing company does that. |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:54 AM Author: Spectacular background story crackhouse TY (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428744) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 4:57 AM Author: federal locale volcanic crater i want to read one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428750) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 5:05 AM Author: Cyan church what was your first novel about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23428762) |
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Date: June 20th, 2013 2:02 AM Author: Chartreuse selfie alpha Dude is seduced by a beautiful older woman, framed for her murder, and pursued across the Montana plains by cops, drug dealers, survivalists, and a mysterious peg-legged insurance salesman. It's sort of autobiographical because I've been to Montana before. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23434910) |
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Date: June 19th, 2013 5:17 PM Author: Adventurous mustard pervert striped hyena Who reps you? I have meetings w two preftigious as fuck agencies when I get back to NY (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23431550) |
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Date: June 20th, 2013 2:05 AM Author: Chartreuse selfie alpha There's an honor code among writers that even though you're supposed to promote your agent and shit, you don't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23434919) |
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Date: June 20th, 2013 2:09 AM Author: Adventurous mustard pervert striped hyena (Guy dodging the question with a BS response), no one asked you to plug your agent, wanted to know if you're with a big agency or some hack working out of a motel. Now that i've spelled it out for you i'm sure your response will be big agency. Continue on with your flame, i'm done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23434938) |
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Date: June 20th, 2013 2:17 AM Author: Chartreuse selfie alpha I apologize for interpreting "Who reps you?" as "Who reps you?" and not some infinitely subtle literary pecking order game. Learn to ask good questions, and you'll get better answers.
I'm not with a big agency, but she doesn't work out of a motel either. |
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Date: June 20th, 2013 8:44 AM Author: Exciting Turdskin Institution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23435443) |
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Date: June 20th, 2013 8:46 AM Author: Wonderful Flushed Karate weak flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23435447) |
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Date: June 20th, 2013 10:37 AM Author: Indigo Legal Warrant Is this Denis Johnson? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23435779) |
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Date: June 21st, 2013 1:26 AM Author: Chartreuse selfie alpha I wish. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286362&forum_id=2#23442131) |