married bro here. women are mentally ill. never get married. never have kids
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Date: December 30th, 2015 7:59 PM Author: passionate slate hunting ground national
but if you do have kids, stay together with your wife.
i'll take questions if you have any
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Date: December 30th, 2015 9:17 PM Author: Onyx philosopher-king point
My wife and I share so little of our day or our lives that it's like living alone. Outside of how our day was in general terms, and how the food tastes, and how the baby is, I rarely converse with my wife. Also, what I'm supposed to be doing (trash out, pay this bill, set this or that up) and menial plans (we need to go to Target on Saturday). How I spend my day is a mystery to my wife that she has no interest in solving. I have no idea what my wife does all day. My wife watches at least 3 hours of TV every night when she comes home. In both sheer words and in substance I talk on the phone with my friends and family members than I do my wife. No shit, if I had someone at home to talk to, I wouldn't be here in my office, working, posting, drinking by myself.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3083394&forum_id=2#29487973) |
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Date: December 30th, 2015 9:35 PM Author: Onyx philosopher-king point
Spotty. My wife is one of those people who, when she goes on vacation, has every second planned so that there's no down time. Also, she likes to go to bed really early (before 8:30) so I can't get her to go out drinking anymore.
I really don't like going on vacation with her. I like to go on vacations to socialize, drink, fuck, and enjoy life. My wife likes to go on tours, constantly be on the go, spend as much money on possible on high end stuff like spas and dinners, and go to sleep early. For me, it's an expensive blur of busy-ness that ends in me not having fun.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3083394&forum_id=2#29488211) |
Date: December 30th, 2015 8:11 PM Author: Massive primrose piazza place of business
thats the price for getting your hard willy close to a woman.
THATS THE PRICE.
would marriage work better if your wife basically cowered to your every wish? no arguments, no power moves, no demands...
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3083394&forum_id=2#29487536)
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Date: December 30th, 2015 11:22 PM Author: Costumed electric turdskin
No, I'm just older and more experienced and capable of putting others before myself. In short, I've matured past a worldview centered around myself. 13 years of marriage, two kids, plenty of ups and downs. My 180 wife is still the thing anchoring me in this barren wasteland of a world. Of course, she's not a stupid nag bitch, she's not religious, and she has her own opinions and can accept that I do too. You've made some mistakes in life, aren't happy with the choices you've made, and want someone to blame. No one forced you to marry or have children. No one forced you to accept a sahm arrangement. You don't just fall into a life except by cowardice and acquiescence. Xoxo is godawful right now, lacks true perspective on marital relations, and posts in the nature of the op contribute to the decline. You don't know everything about marriage, yet you generalize and spout off as if you do because you're feeling butthurt right now. You can't get over yourself. Yeah, maybe some xo dweebs will 180 your posts and give you a fleeting sense of community and self-satisfaction, but ultimately your perspective is skewed by your moral bankruptcy and selfishness. As I said, "oh noes, I have to make sacrifices." That is the nature of living, get over yourself.
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Date: December 31st, 2015 10:44 AM Author: Irradiated Bat Shit Crazy Temple Dopamine
Your advice about getting divorced and if he doesn't up and do it is ridiculous. Actually your entire worldview comes across as crap.
OP's situation is far from unique. Actually it border on the norm. It's great that you have a wife that blows rainbows up you arse. But dissatisfaction especially at the stage that OP is in, is actually quite normal.
Divorce isn't the solution atleast, right now. My advice to OP would be to wait till the kids get in school and sort of get on auto-pilot. Then reevaluate. Infants and toddlers can be amazing but also a lot of work and stress. All that screaming and crying does affect your wellbeing. Get through that phase and see what happens. Once things stabilize my guess is the wife will be in more of a mood for romance.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3083394&forum_id=2#29490576) |
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Date: December 30th, 2015 9:03 PM Author: Shivering talented community account
here's a roadmap.
i met my wife in high school. she was objectively the hottest girl in my high school and i was a jock and didn't know any better.
i was a year ahead of her. while she was a senior in high school and i was a freshman in college in the same city, we started dating in earnest. she literally blew and/or fucked me every single day from summer 2001 to spring 2002.
we had a big fight in spring 2002 and "broke up." more or less, she found out i looked at porn infrequently. remember, she has been putting my cock in her mouth and moaning like a whore for almost a full year at this point, and apparently found out she was dating a grownup who drinks alcohol and looks at naked girls on 2002 dialup internet once or twice a month.
we got back together eventually. sex became less frequent, but still ok.
we marry in 2006 because i don't know what else to do. we've been dating for five years at this point and i don't know any better.
the last blowjob i ever received was on our honeymoon. to be fair, she saved the best for last. but the last time her lips touched my dick was fucking july of fucking 2006.
our sex life has been up and down ever since. eventually, i went to law school. she "supported" me with a typical woman job and lords it over me every day of her life.
i got biglaw. i now make 300k+ a year. we have a house. we have a baby. she stays at home and by her own admission has everything she's ever dreamed of.
we are lucky to have sex once a month. she has gained in neighborhood of 80 pounds since our wedding. she is a constant source of negativity and sullenness.
i don't know what we do. i do not want a divorce because i want our kid to have a somewhat normal life. i also don't want to pay her for the privilege of being a cunt for the rest of her life. frankly i'm getting close to making partner in biglaw and i have no desire to have her reap the financial benefits of me working myself to death while she lives the life of a princess with nothing in return.
oh well. american dream, fuckers.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3083394&forum_id=2#29487880) |
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Date: December 30th, 2015 9:10 PM Author: Shivering talented community account
i would probably be great friends with you and your dad.
obviously you read between the lines - my drinking is approaching out of control
i guess the key is just being functional until my internal organs fortuitously liquefy.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3083394&forum_id=2#29487924) |
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Date: December 30th, 2015 10:08 PM Author: Blathering clown theater
how the fck did she put 80 pounds man JFC
FCK AMERICAN WOMEN
so you are going to be making almost a million dollars and your prize is you get a 200 pound woman? JFC
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3083394&forum_id=2#29488534)
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Date: December 30th, 2015 10:16 PM Author: Blathering clown theater
i feel for this bro and i dont even know him
fck this gay earth
btw europe/asia it is accepted successful men will have mistresses etc. here men are fckng castrated
seriously whats the point of striving if you have to end up with a land beast
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3083394&forum_id=2#29488592) |
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Date: December 30th, 2015 10:17 PM Author: Blathering clown theater
sorry bro
i wud be fckng around if i were you and banging hot escorts
stop at one kid so even if you get divorce pwned you can have a great life style
dont get caught though
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3083394&forum_id=2#29488599) |
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Date: December 30th, 2015 10:26 PM Author: Blathering clown theater
there are big financial implications also divorce is traumatic for the kids
its fckng easy to cheat without getting caught so no reason to fck it up
if u want to be caught then save the drama and just get divorced
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3083394&forum_id=2#29488683) |
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Date: December 30th, 2015 10:31 PM Author: Onyx philosopher-king point
1) yes, but if your life sucks that bad, and divorce seems inevitable, doesn't seem like a financial disaster would be the worst of my worries, divorce is a financial disaster anyways
2) yes it is easy to cheat once without getting caught but as the years pile up it seems you could get one-false-move-pwned
3) the thrill of consequences is what would make this so fun in the first place
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3083394&forum_id=2#29488710) |
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Date: December 30th, 2015 9:32 PM Author: Onyx philosopher-king point
My Mom has suspected stuff, and my Dad was a pretty successful in television production and had some drop dead hot assistants, but I don't know of any affairs he had. My siblings and I have our doubts, but if there was anything solid, we probably would have know about it. Truth be told, if you live that life, you'll get caught in the long run, and I can't say he ever went that route.
I think a lot about my dad and how he managed to make it through this stuff, because I tell you this, my mother was surely no more reasonable than my wife.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3083394&forum_id=2#29488176) |
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Date: December 30th, 2015 9:53 PM Author: Blathering clown theater
To be fair
Aren't you in a AGWWG relationship? Think you should mention that important data point so ppl can adjust their impression of your marriage accordingly. AZN american women are still better than restless selfish WHITE women on how they approach marriage which is boring, requires hard work and sacrifice of your personal happiness/pleasure for the sake of family
also your azn wife probably looks at you like a god just because you are white and that may explain a lot of your "amazing" sex life
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3083394&forum_id=2#29488361)
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Date: December 30th, 2015 8:44 PM Author: Onyx philosopher-king point
dude, I'm right there with you. I try not to think about what it would be like if I had just not married my wife. I have all these fantasies about being single, having a place with no woman in it, all the extra money I would have.
I love my kid though. She was probably smart enough to know that once she gave me that kid I wasn't going anywhere.
What's your plan? 50 year death march?
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Date: December 30th, 2015 9:02 PM Author: Trip brindle tanning salon water buffalo
Damn bro that sucks. At least since my wife and I are evangelicals she accepts that man is head of the house and I mostly make the decisions.
I used to engage her when she'd get pissed about me not getting something she wanted then I'd try to appease her by buying it. Eventually I stopped giving a shit and just ignored her bitching. Seriously, she stopped. Like I just didn't even acknowledge it. Took some amazing self restraint at first. She'd pull the name calling etc to try and get me as pissed as she was. I just refused. Now, such complaints are rare.
Deep down, women want to be led. You just have to have the balls to resist the tantrum for a few months before they see the futility
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Date: December 30th, 2015 8:53 PM Author: Trip brindle tanning salon water buffalo
Some days I feel that way. Right now, though, I feel like shit-think I have the flu- and am eternally grateful for someone to bring me soup and a blanket etc without complaint.
Can't imagine how lonely it would be if I was an old man sick all the time and didn't have anyone to care for me
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Date: December 30th, 2015 9:05 PM Author: Beady-eyed field trust fund
Ideally it would be a ~45 yr old guy who has been making bank and still looks relatively attractive marrying a ~25 yr old woman who is fertile but not juvenile and mature to have a relation ship and pop out some kids
Unfortunately society will think you're a creep and would rather celebrate 2 men sticking their penises up each others assholes than your union
Fuck libs
Fuck feminists
Fuck SJWs
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3083394&forum_id=2#29487891) |
Date: December 30th, 2015 9:38 PM Author: Carmine excitant locale
FMA
"For all the million bad things about marriage, just having someone around who you go through life with - even if you hate their guts - is worth something."
THAT is as good as this shit gets? fuck.
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Date: December 30th, 2015 9:48 PM Author: Shivering talented community account
can you describe "180 wife"?
i married a girl a decade ago that i thought was an intellectual, spiritual, political, and sexual equal. thought we were literally soulmates. same sense of humor, same likes and dislikes, everything.
you can see above what happened.
now i'm thinking a "180 wife" means a dumb hot girl willing to just cheerfully live life with you and put out. i don't see how it can be anything else.
and before you call me jaded, every single guy i know is in this situation. the ONLY exceptions are extraordinarily religious people, and i will never be in that camp.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3083394&forum_id=2#29488309) |
Date: December 30th, 2015 10:20 PM Author: Beta apoplectic university
I am 36 and married with two children (seven and two). While it is often frustrating, constantly difficult and occasionally painful it gives life shape and form. If you are not a parent it is hard to explain the feelings that come along with even tiny highs and lows. It gives life meaning and shape.
I could imagine myself in an alternate track where I am still single. But in the end, however, life and what you got out of it is a pretty complex formula. To each their own.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3083394&forum_id=2#29488620) |
Date: December 30th, 2015 10:41 PM Author: Vibrant chrome church pozpig
lol at you pussies jfc I had no idea how good I have it. Why don't you betas give your wife a good verbal undressing? they need that shit occasionally. Why don't you schedule some me time to get away from that cunt and if she complains remind her you're the breadwinner. Men with options don't have these problems. The little bitching my wife does is almost always caused by me tbf, but I still have to behave as though she causes some problems just to have the mental edge on her.
Sack up faggots
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Date: December 31st, 2015 12:29 AM Author: Rusted halford
"ty, she's a winner. We definitely have our silly arguments like a couple of weeks ago when I ended up sleeping in the guest room on a Friday night because she thought I was critical of the way she was cutting the green beans for dinner (can't make it up), but I'd rather be married to her than any other female who would conceivably marry me."
lol. That's a success story!? The guy is getting kicked out of his own bedroom like he's some puppy who shat on the bed and he's talking about how great his marriage is? There have been times this year, when I was playing Goldeneye on my old N64, where I wondered if I wasn't wasting my life away as some degenerate man-child. Guess I was wrong, lol.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3083394&forum_id=2#29489432) |
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Date: December 31st, 2015 12:49 AM Author: boyish milk
Well, when you put it like that...
I actually decided to sleep in the guest room because she was carrying on and I had enough. This has happened twice in 8 years, although we didn't have a guest room the other time and I slept in my car like a homeless person.
I've been in two bad LTRs. This one is far better.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3083394&forum_id=2#29489508) |
Date: December 31st, 2015 2:15 AM Author: appetizing orchestra pit messiness
So what are you supposed to do then? I just got out of a year-long relationship with a girl I thought was a total 180. Being alone now sucks dick.
However, had we stayed together and eventually got married, it sounds like it would be a horror show down the road (best outcome in this thread is sleeping on the fucking couch over a green beans argument, jfc.)
So what's the deal then, just have awesome year-or-two-long relationships with 180 young girls, punctuated by a few months of severe grief post-breakup?
Fuck.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3083394&forum_id=2#29489720) |
Date: December 31st, 2015 2:51 AM Author: jade karate
i am betting one or both sides of the bad marriages ITT come from families with similar chaos and drama and addictions etc
Im not religious but Its why the mormon church is so cr. Man is the head of the house and women have all kinds of activities to keep them busy. 6% divorce rate
Your wife should be constantly pregnant and raising infants. Crazy having just 1 kid. Of course shes bored and up your ass.
You think some chick with 6 little kids has the energy to be nagging you about stuff? modern life lol
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3083394&forum_id=2#29489787) |
Date: December 31st, 2015 4:35 AM Author: Laughsome crystalline stage
Non-marriedbro, but I have a few thoughts:
1. I think the single biggest problem in Western marriages is the fact that there is no 'apart' time between men and women. I've had this thought before but the fact that many of you are echoing the sentiment just increases my conviction.
2. It seems that the biggest issue men have with their wives is that they are overly domineering and/or 'wear the pants' in the relationship. Has anything ever been written on how to handle this? I must admit I've seen this dynamic several times myself and I've been in it before, but my solution was just to end the relationship. That obviously won't work for someone who hopes to continue theirs.
3. Is this dynamic in marriages universal or is it just something certain 'types' of people get into? Is it more a problem in certain [countries/classes/religions/races] than others?
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Date: December 31st, 2015 5:58 AM Author: deep background story
Non-married bro here as well so take my thoughts with a grain of salt. From my experience and observations, corroborated by fellow poasters, drama makes women feel alive. Like a lot of men, my natural response is to call bullshit and point out how childish their behavior or thought process is. This isn't the most optimal response if your goal is harmony. I think the best response requires understanding her underlying insecurities and motivations and addressing that in a comforting, non-threatening manner instead of responding to the whatever bullshit she's spouting on its face.
It takes a lot of patience and understanding to reassure her when all you can think is "fuck that cunt, I don't deserve this bullshit." I wish I could say I've taken the high road but I don't and often take the easy route which is threaten to just gather up my shit and leave. This works sometimes and she'll completely stop acting like a child, other times she'll threaten a complete split if I walk out.
I've read a shit ton of articles on how to have successful relationships, shared them with my SOs hoping we could fix things. This one was really good: John Gottman's study about negativity thresholds http://www.businessinsider.com/mathematical-secret-to-lasting-relationships-2015-6.
All that knowledge means jack shit if either partner has too big of an ego that constantly needs feeding. In my experience, that gets in the way of genuine and continuous selfless interactions that form the basis of a constructive and positive relationship. It doesn't help that a lot of poasters complaining in this thread seem to have an attitude of "what does my fat, cunty wife bring to the table?" "I make more money, pay for everything, and behave reasonably. I have more value in our relationship." "Wife is fat, doesn't work or doesn't make nearly as much."
Whether or not they're right, it's not constructive and creates a negative atmosphere in which one partner is attacking the other's sense of self-worth. Even if never explicitly stated, having such an internal thought process can color a relationship. the response from the other partner is naturally fight or flight resulting in spiraling negativity. You can read the language in some of these poasts and see it. Another poaster talks about how his wife supported him through law school and now lords it over him. He resents the fact that he is now her slave as a result. That thought process is fueled by the ego and desire for value. The better attitude is probably gratitude for each of the others contribution. Unfortunately, if the husband thinks and his behavior reflects, "oh my wife is so wonderful to have supported me" and the wife on the other hand thinks "he knows he's lucky," then there is no mutuality and the husband will quickly adopt an ego preserving attitude that exalts his contribution over hers. In a sense, there is a game theory element involved.
It also doesn't help that this board is full of ego-driven strivers. Chill couples usually don't fall into these patterns. High powered individuals and couples do, though. Finally, on your next vacation, you guys should take shrooms together.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3083394&forum_id=2#29490006) |
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Date: December 31st, 2015 12:40 PM Author: bronze bearded hall gaming laptop
A lot of women were spoiled somewhat by their fathers so they learned that tantrum-throwing and tears and emotions were a way to get what they want.
A lot of dads had the attitude of "throw money at this noise and it'll go away", so in response to their daughters kicking up a fuss, they usually would cave to their demands just to get them to shut up.
This technique doesn't work as well in the real world. In this respect, I think men were taught growing up how to assert themselves in a healthier and more productive way.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3083394&forum_id=2#29491268) |
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Date: December 31st, 2015 11:38 AM Author: bronze bearded hall gaming laptop
"All that knowledge means jack shit if either partner has too big of an ego that constantly needs feeding. In my experience, that gets in the way of genuine and continuous selfless interactions that form the basis of a constructive and positive relationship."
"Finally, on your next vacation, you guys should take shrooms together."
180x180.
/thread.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3083394&forum_id=2#29490972) |
Date: December 31st, 2015 11:53 AM Author: bronze bearded hall gaming laptop
Here's the thing. Life is about tradeoffs, and nowhere is this more evident than in the sustenance of long term relationships.
LTRs require you to give up your ego. Sure, some girls may prefer a setup where the man is the head of the household and there will be power plays in all sorts of relationships, but if you're not comfortable with giving up at least part of your ego and your ultimate autonomy as a single agent, you probably should reconsider getting married unless you're hellbent on having kids.
I'm about 6 months into the first genuine, healthy, marriage-track relationship I've had in several years and yeah, sometimes I feel my independence and agency infringed upon. And yes, we came into the relationship with fairly divergent pictures of what we want our lives to look like in 5 years. But the benefits far outweigh any inconvenience, and there's a lot more common ground than there is not.
So give up the ego and focus on connectivity and the positives. Be grateful that someone's in your corner and has chosen you as their person. Be aware that it could suck for the other person too in many of the same ways, and that loving someone this much involves an active effort to minimize the sucktitude of the journey for them.
We bitch so much about life for not looking or feeling the way we expected it to that we forget how lucky we are to have made it this far with the people surrounding us.
And, yes, smoke a lil bit of weed with them from time to time. It helps.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3083394&forum_id=2#29491068) |
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