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QUESTION about biglaw life

What do partners/older associates think of people who come i...
Galvanic Shrine Water Buffalo
  02/08/10
why do you care about what they think? unless you want to co...
Zippy Amber Institution Dingle Berry
  02/08/10
I'm just curious bro. Like if they would feel suckered and ...
Galvanic Shrine Water Buffalo
  02/08/10
if you give them sufficient notice, do good work until you l...
Zippy Amber Institution Dingle Berry
  02/08/10
You think too much. Of course not.
Canary bateful field
  02/08/10
Not surprisingly, different people view this differently. K...
vivacious fanboi azn
  02/08/10
are you learning mandarin so you can apply for that job?
Zippy Amber Institution Dingle Berry
  02/08/10
I'm working on other projects that are probably a better use...
vivacious fanboi azn
  02/08/10
good luck dood.
Zippy Amber Institution Dingle Berry
  02/08/10
this is sometimes mitigated by the star senior associate goi...
excitant pungent sound barrier whorehouse
  02/08/10
They would rather have a non-star associate do that exact th...
vivacious fanboi azn
  02/08/10
They think of it as just business. If the "other offer...
Sadistic vermilion community account
  02/08/10
I highly doubt I'll be going to a client. I've been here a ...
Galvanic Shrine Water Buffalo
  02/08/10
Menial shit work is 80% of what happens in biglaw, especiall...
Sadistic vermilion community account
  02/08/10
no one "takes it personally," whatever the fuck th...
Insanely creepy alcoholic feces windowlicker
  02/08/10
Man hell no. I still talk to some people every now and a...
Twinkling University Mad Cow Disease
  02/08/10
How many years/months before you left? What did you transit...
Galvanic Shrine Water Buffalo
  02/08/10
I left in a year and a half. I would've left sooner if i ha...
Twinkling University Mad Cow Disease
  02/08/10
Way to go man that's kinda my strategy. Did you go to gov't...
Galvanic Shrine Water Buffalo
  02/08/10
What i did in biglaw is totally totally different than what ...
Twinkling University Mad Cow Disease
  02/08/10
I am insanely fucking jealous of you. Since about 2 months ...
Galvanic Shrine Water Buffalo
  02/08/10
Nah don't be jealous. Biglaw money is really good. You wil...
Twinkling University Mad Cow Disease
  02/08/10
howd you get the govt job? i want one.
Rebellious slate heaven
  02/08/10
-I had a ton of connections at the agency i went to work for...
Twinkling University Mad Cow Disease
  02/08/10
Jesus. 50 is the bare minimum for me. As for money - it'...
Galvanic Shrine Water Buffalo
  02/08/10
My biglaw money went to debt too. alot of my current salary...
Twinkling University Mad Cow Disease
  02/08/10
Good for you. I have a few questions, if you don't mind... ...
Floppy kitchen
  02/09/10
never going back? you're perfectly ok knowing that the very...
Dead idea he suggested lay
  02/09/10
The biglaw model depends on heavy attrition. Most people at...
Crimson Kitty Spot
  02/08/10
u realize that partners have decreased leverage when associa...
brilliant trip address quadroon
  02/08/10
At most big firms there are so many associates coming in and...
razzle orchestra pit
  02/09/10
yeah that's true but he said partners would be happy to have...
brilliant trip address quadroon
  02/09/10
yeah, one freaking associate isnt going to change a big law ...
razzle orchestra pit
  02/09/10


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Date: February 8th, 2010 10:00 AM
Author: Galvanic Shrine Water Buffalo

What do partners/older associates think of people who come in out of law school, pay off loans quickly, and leave as soon as possible? Do they take this shit personally, like when the associate is all like oh hey btw I got this other offer I'm leaving in a month.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14053665)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 10:02 AM
Author: Zippy Amber Institution Dingle Berry

why do you care about what they think? unless you want to come back to biglaw, it shouldn't matter.

btw, most associates leave biglaw within a few years, for a variety of reasons. i don't think most partners spend sleepless nights searching for those reasons tho.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14053670)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 10:32 AM
Author: Galvanic Shrine Water Buffalo

I'm just curious bro. Like if they would feel suckered and used and tell other firms never to hire me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14053810)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 10:36 AM
Author: Zippy Amber Institution Dingle Berry

if you give them sufficient notice, do good work until you leave and don't otherwise burn your bridges, i think most non-aspies would understand. in fact, if you do all that and you are a quality lawyer, they would prob even consider taking you back at some point in the future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14053831)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 12:58 PM
Author: Canary bateful field

You think too much.

Of course not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14054742)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 10:02 AM
Author: vivacious fanboi azn

Not surprisingly, different people view this differently. Keep in mind that attrition is built into the system, so they expect most people to leave in a few years to do other shit. Of course, the problem is when their star associate is the one who leaves. Then they're annoyed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14053671)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 10:20 AM
Author: Zippy Amber Institution Dingle Berry

are you learning mandarin so you can apply for that job?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14053757)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 10:41 AM
Author: vivacious fanboi azn

I'm working on other projects that are probably a better use of my time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14053853)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 10:59 AM
Author: Zippy Amber Institution Dingle Berry

good luck dood.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14053925)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 10:31 AM
Author: excitant pungent sound barrier whorehouse

this is sometimes mitigated by the star senior associate going to a major client if that person then funnels work back to the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14053806)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 10:46 AM
Author: vivacious fanboi azn

They would rather have a non-star associate do that exact thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14053864)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 10:45 AM
Author: Sadistic vermilion community account

They think of it as just business. If the "other offer" is with a client they'll see it as a compliment to your work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14053862)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 10:56 AM
Author: Galvanic Shrine Water Buffalo

I highly doubt I'll be going to a client. I've been here a year and am doing just menial shit work (which supposdly never happened in biglaw). I'm not even on a clients radar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14053909)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 10:58 AM
Author: Sadistic vermilion community account

Menial shit work is 80% of what happens in biglaw, especially in your first year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14053920)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 12:49 PM
Author: Insanely creepy alcoholic feces windowlicker

no one "takes it personally," whatever the fuck that means

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14054672)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:01 AM
Author: Twinkling University Mad Cow Disease

Man hell no.

I still talk to some people every now and again at my biglaw firm. No one gives a shit if you leave. You're expected to; the only question is when.

I caught a little bit of shit b/c I left too early for the firm to recoup costs spent on me. But no one gave a shit really. At all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14053932)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:02 AM
Author: Galvanic Shrine Water Buffalo

How many years/months before you left? What did you transition to?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14053941)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:06 AM
Author: Twinkling University Mad Cow Disease

I left in a year and a half. I would've left sooner if i had another job lined up. I transitioned right into a position as a gov't atty once I got the offer. Been doing that ever since.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14053958)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:26 AM
Author: Galvanic Shrine Water Buffalo

Way to go man that's kinda my strategy. Did you go to gov't work that had to do with what you were doing in biglaw or was it unrelated?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14054062)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:32 AM
Author: Twinkling University Mad Cow Disease

What i did in biglaw is totally totally different than what i do now. Many biglaw firms have the topic i work with now, but i'm never, ever going back.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14054089)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:54 AM
Author: Galvanic Shrine Water Buffalo

I am insanely fucking jealous of you. Since about 2 months in I fantasize about a different job. What are gov't hours like

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14054243)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 12:06 PM
Author: Twinkling University Mad Cow Disease

Nah don't be jealous. Biglaw money is really good. You will defintiely miss that once you leave.

My hours vary. In a tough week I might work 50 hours. In a slow week I might work 30. I can telework if I want to which is nice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14054335)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 12:12 PM
Author: Rebellious slate heaven

howd you get the govt job? i want one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14054371)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 12:17 PM
Author: Twinkling University Mad Cow Disease

-I had a ton of connections at the agency i went to work for.

-I worked very very hard on my resume and the application.

-Some luck.

Some gov't jobs are not all that hot. OGC offices are the best positions IMO. Atty Advisor positions are ok, but don't give you good experience from what I've been told.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14054399)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 12:14 PM
Author: Galvanic Shrine Water Buffalo

Jesus. 50 is the bare minimum for me.

As for money - it's mainly going to debt anyway. Also I have zero time to enjoy the fruits of my money.

How'd you get that job. Can you elaborate at all on your particular position?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14054384)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 12:20 PM
Author: Twinkling University Mad Cow Disease

My biglaw money went to debt too. alot of my current salary goes to debt, just a lot less than before.

See above for how i got the job. it has its ups, but definitely downs.

My position: I work in an Office of General Counsel position. Soon, I'll be leaving this position for a policy advisor type of position because i just want to do something else.

I'm sorry i can't elaborate too much. i do not want to be outted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14054419)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 1:55 AM
Author: Floppy kitchen

Good for you. I have a few questions, if you don't mind...

Why do you say that OGC jobs are better? What is the difference between an OGC job and other federal government positions?

Do federal government jobs (other than DOJ) drug test?

For someone interested in eventually transitioning back to a law firm, are there any federal attorney jobs that are transactional?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14062932)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 2:36 AM
Author: Dead idea he suggested lay

never going back? you're perfectly ok knowing that the very peak of your career will be at $153,000?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14063292)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 1:16 PM
Author: Crimson Kitty Spot

The biglaw model depends on heavy attrition. Most people at the firm will not take it personally when you leave, indeed, the partners will be happy to have increased leverage. They will probably barely notice. Although biglaw attorneys are often made to believe they are indispensable, this is mostly a trick to milk long hours out of them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14054874)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 1:18 PM
Author: brilliant trip address quadroon

u realize that partners have decreased leverage when associates leave, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14054889)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:27 AM
Author: razzle orchestra pit

At most big firms there are so many associates coming in and out that no partner is really going to give a shit about decreased leverage when associates lave.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14061615)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 1:56 AM
Author: brilliant trip address quadroon

yeah that's true but he said partners would be happy to have increased leverage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14062939)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 2:59 AM
Author: razzle orchestra pit

yeah, one freaking associate isnt going to change a big law firms leverage.. even ten won't

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216345&forum_id=2#14063421)