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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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vibrant parlor friendly grandma
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Chestnut house-broken state
  12/16/25
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vibrant parlor friendly grandma
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Painfully honest stage hunting ground
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Chestnut house-broken state
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Painfully honest stage hunting ground
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Chestnut house-broken state
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Painfully honest stage hunting ground
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
vibrant parlor friendly grandma
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Chestnut house-broken state
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Painfully honest stage hunting ground
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Chestnut house-broken state
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Painfully honest stage hunting ground
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vibrant parlor friendly grandma
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Chestnut house-broken state
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Fiercely-loyal bearded background story
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Chestnut house-broken state
  12/16/25
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Fiercely-loyal bearded background story
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
doobsian kitchen feces
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Chestnut house-broken state
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Brass Thriller Sound Barrier Cruise Ship
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Chestnut house-broken state
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Razzle school
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vibrant parlor friendly grandma
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Pearl locus reading party
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
bistre native
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Chestnut house-broken state
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Pearl locus reading party
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vibrant parlor friendly grandma
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vibrant parlor friendly grandma
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Painfully honest stage hunting ground
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Grizzly narrow-minded theater stage legal warrant
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: vibrant parlor friendly grandma



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Chestnut house-broken state

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: vibrant parlor friendly grandma

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Painfully honest stage hunting ground

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Chestnut house-broken state

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Painfully honest stage hunting ground

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515523)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Chestnut house-broken state

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Painfully honest stage hunting ground

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: vibrant parlor friendly grandma

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Chestnut house-broken state

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Painfully honest stage hunting ground

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Chestnut house-broken state

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Painfully honest stage hunting ground

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: vibrant parlor friendly grandma



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Chestnut house-broken state



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal bearded background story

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Chestnut house-broken state

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Fiercely-loyal bearded background story



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: doobsian kitchen feces

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Chestnut house-broken state

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Brass Thriller Sound Barrier Cruise Ship

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Chestnut house-broken state

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Razzle school

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Chestnut house-broken state



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: vibrant parlor friendly grandma



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Pearl locus reading party

i love scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515767)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: bistre native

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Chestnut house-broken state



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Pearl locus reading party



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: vibrant parlor friendly grandma



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: vibrant parlor friendly grandma



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Painfully honest stage hunting ground

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Grizzly narrow-minded theater stage legal warrant

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515738)