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Is the commerce clause being interpreted as it was intended?
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:11 AM Author: pale shivering toilet seat Would this country be in better financial shape if it were? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130018) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:12 AM Author: painfully honest jet stage obviously not; no (less obviously). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130031) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:12 AM Author: scarlet idiot institution we need the commerce clause to be a general police power so liberals can write really long fucking articles in their fancy schmancy law reviews. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130033) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:13 AM Author: Gold Dog Poop no. it was clearly intended to cover gun sales on school grounds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130039) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 2:45 AM Author: Buff Gas Station gun possession fag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130853) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:15 AM Author: mahogany degenerate church building No it is not, and yes parts (at least my part) of the country would be in better shape. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130059) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:17 AM Author: Rough-skinned Wonderful Rigor "and yes parts (at least my part) of the country would be in better shape."
doubtful |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:41 AM Author: mahogany degenerate church building Why do you say that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130365) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:42 AM Author: Rough-skinned Wonderful Rigor there are efficiencies that come with uniformity (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130370) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:12 PM Author: charcoal chapel keepsake machete N. Korea is about as uniform as it gets. Check out their efficiency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12132062) |
Date: July 1st, 2009 1:14 AM Author: Rough-skinned Wonderful Rigor the more fully national the economy the better in the long run i'd think (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130046) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:16 AM Author: pale shivering toilet seat srsly? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130070) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:16 AM Author: Rough-skinned Wonderful Rigor of course (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130075) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:17 AM Author: Cerebral church Seeing as it covers single site restaurants and goods that have never crossed state lines, I'd say the interpretation is pretty fucked up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130091) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:25 AM Author: Doobsian Vigorous Striped Hyena Dilemma titcr. commerce clause = permission for congress to regulate anything they want. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130184) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:27 AM Author: Bisexual aquamarine travel guidebook Nah dude, there are like, totally limits and stuff. You know...like, it's got to have substantial effects or something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130205) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 2:46 AM Author: Buff Gas Station BUT IS IT IN THE AGGREGATE OR NOT? OMFG I CAN'T TAKE THIS MY BRAIN SPLODES "splatter" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130857) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:25 AM Author: Bisexual aquamarine travel guidebook No way. No, not better financial shape, but we'd be better off overall. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130180) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:36 AM Author: confused crusty nursing home half-breed Lulz. No.
And I've never heard someone seriously claim that it is. |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:39 AM Author: pale shivering toilet seat What do liberals have to say about this? And I'm not joking
EDIT: I'm not too sure, but wouldn't social security, medicare, most government agencies etc. be unconstitutional under the original meaning? Not that this would necessarily be bad, just wondering |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:41 AM Author: Rough-skinned Wonderful Rigor if the founders were as stupid and inflexible as you take them to be we'd have no reason to heed their words (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130359) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:44 AM Author: Cerebral church The founders created a method for amending the Constitution. This is preferable to congressional usurpation that gets rubber stamped by judicial fiat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130388) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:45 AM Author: Rough-skinned Wonderful Rigor nah i'd rather live with the rules we make by majority vote. but in any event not clear that the founders were as dumb as you take them to be--of course those debates should be merely academic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130401) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:07 PM Author: amber gaped ladyboy trailer park if you want to just live by majority rule, why bother having a constitution at all?
the founders definitely contemplated that the constitution would undergo significant change. I just think they expected the change to be done through open, legal, and democratic means rather than backdoor deals and regulatory creep. |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:46 PM Author: Very tactful spectacular fanboi jew You don't understand. The main purpose of the Constitution is not to set a foundation for limited government. The main purpose of the Constitution is that we can use it as a source for dreaming up endless whiny individual rights in order to justify MORE government power, not less. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12132414) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:46 AM Author: pale shivering toilet seat I didn't say I agree. I was just curious if that was the original understanding (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130407) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:49 AM Author: Rough-skinned Wonderful Rigor the folks around at the time likely didn't contemplate federal regulation on a contemporary scale. they also likely didn't contemplate anything like a modern economy. perhaps they would've come to different views on what federalism might entail down the line if they had (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130427) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 2:03 AM Author: confused crusty nursing home half-breed WTF is the relationship between for first and second sentences? Contrasting? Complementary? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130559) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 2:46 AM Author: Rough-skinned Wonderful Rigor reasonably clear (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130859) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:11 PM Author: sapphire candlestick maker cuckoldry I don't think this is an excuse for ignoring the document they wrote and calling yourself loyal to it. What liberals have done is push an illegal agenda using majroity vote. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12132053) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:06 PM Author: amber gaped ladyboy trailer park social security, medicare, and most government agencies are really just spending programs, not regulation of commerce. They don't rely upon the commerce clause for their authority, but rather upon Congress's power to "lay and collect taxes [and spend them] to provide for the general welfare." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12132021) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:13 PM Author: Useless drab resort titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12132068) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:36 PM Author: Hilarious Lay I thought SS/medicare were general welfare. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12132320) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 3:02 AM Author: Histrionic Khaki Regret lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130907) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:13 PM Author: Jet-lagged Public Bath no way to know dooder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12132072) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:43 PM Author: galvanic patrolman Enjoy!
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0514_0549_ZC1.html |