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Reviewing 26k documents today -- how much to bill?

In prep for trial, going through 26k documents that were pro...
spruce electric legend range
  05/02/13
If you're prepping for trial you should basically already ha...
crusty spot
  05/02/13
I'm unprepared?
spruce electric legend range
  05/02/13
Not saying that. It just seems odd that you're gearing up f...
crusty spot
  05/02/13
That's silly. Why prepare for trial ahead of time when sett...
Cordovan Vivacious Goal In Life Hell
  05/02/13
This one wont settle. We r $6 million apart
spruce electric legend range
  05/02/13
LOL @ shitlaw. That's about what a month of trial (incl...
Irradiated swollen people who are hurt abode
  05/02/13
$6 million apart not settling means an 8 figure dispute whic...
Tan nighttime skinny woman
  05/02/13
30 hours
Cordovan Vivacious Goal In Life Hell
  05/02/13
Depending on what the specific task is, this seems reasonabl...
Swashbuckling hairless ratface
  05/02/13
$26,000
marvelous maroon institution
  05/02/13
Just do 46 documents per minute brahh!
cerise histrionic field milk
  05/02/13
Seriously, that seems laughably low.
Vigorous Misunderstood Foreskin Tanning Salon
  05/02/13
something like this could easily take a week, 10 hrs/day.
Flirting internal respiration
  05/02/13
Yea I know. But ins client wouldn't pay for 42 hours worth. ...
spruce electric legend range
  05/02/13
If you bill 15-20 to an insurer, they will cut it to 8-10. ...
Tan nighttime skinny woman
  05/02/13
how much the client will pay for is not your problem. the p...
Flirting internal respiration
  05/02/13
26,000 PAGES of documents, or 26,000 DOCUMENTS? Either wa...
Tan nighttime skinny woman
  05/02/13
How much time would be needed to review them? Half are clear...
spruce electric legend range
  05/02/13
Depends entirely on the documents; I mean, of course it's po...
Tan nighttime skinny woman
  05/02/13
Hot docs have probably mostly been flagged already and nobod...
Cordovan Vivacious Goal In Life Hell
  05/02/13
No sense in not taking one last, extremely comprehensive loo...
Tan nighttime skinny woman
  05/02/13
Good billing language for these 26k documents?
spruce electric legend range
  05/02/13
are you able to block bill? when i had large projects lik...
Flirting internal respiration
  05/02/13
Shit I wish I could block bill, but I can't. This ins compan...
spruce electric legend range
  05/02/13
You can review 4,000 documents an hour?
Shaky Bright Pisswyrm Dilemma
  05/02/13
Yea I underestimated. I've been at this for 8 hours and I'm ...
spruce electric legend range
  05/02/13
Jesus Christ insurance defense sounds terrible. Why does any...
Sapphire sanctuary friendly grandma
  05/02/13
Guess my billing rate. 4th yr
spruce electric legend range
  05/02/13
$125
Sapphire sanctuary friendly grandma
  05/02/13
Oh lord no, I'd quit.
spruce electric legend range
  05/02/13
Who gives a shit about your rate. What is your salary
Sapphire sanctuary friendly grandma
  05/02/13
...
spruce electric legend range
  05/02/13
How many hours do you bill per year and what is your realiza...
Sapphire sanctuary friendly grandma
  05/02/13
Realization is above 95%.
spruce electric legend range
  05/02/13
1 hour for every thousand docs dude.
Jade Cruel-hearted House
  05/03/13


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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:25 AM
Author: spruce electric legend range

In prep for trial, going through 26k documents that were produced to look for trial exhibits. How much time can I bill for this? I estimate that it will actually take abt 6-7 hrs for this to complete.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23120173)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:42 AM
Author: crusty spot

If you're prepping for trial you should basically already have all your documents of interest for exhibits at hand already and really be choosing which you can use best and which can be stipped and/or entered into evidence. This makes no sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23120240)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:43 AM
Author: spruce electric legend range

I'm unprepared?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23120245)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 12:40 PM
Author: crusty spot

Not saying that. It just seems odd that you're gearing up for trial but you're essentially doing a first pass doc review (26k docs).

Perhaps just a difference of "trial" prep means. To me it means all depos done, discovery done, all dispositive motions done, you have a trial date on the calendar and you're starting to think about key docs and depo excerpts and witness lists while you start ramping up your direct/cross scripts, etc.

I guess if that's the case you can only do what the bosses tell you to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23120492)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:43 AM
Author: Cordovan Vivacious Goal In Life Hell

That's silly. Why prepare for trial ahead of time when settlement is so likely? I've had to do this exact same assignment for several cases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23120247)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:50 AM
Author: spruce electric legend range

This one wont settle. We r $6 million apart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23120284)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 3:08 PM
Author: Irradiated swollen people who are hurt abode

LOL @ shitlaw.

That's about what a month of trial (including pre and post briefs + experts) costs at my firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121271)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 3:14 PM
Author: Tan nighttime skinny woman

$6 million apart not settling means an 8 figure dispute which may mean a lot of things, but shitlaw likely is not one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121308)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:25 AM
Author: Cordovan Vivacious Goal In Life Hell

30 hours

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23120176)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 2:01 PM
Author: Swashbuckling hairless ratface

Depending on what the specific task is, this seems reasonable. And definitely not something to do "today."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23120955)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:44 AM
Author: marvelous maroon institution

$26,000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23120251)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 12:58 PM
Author: cerise histrionic field milk

Just do 46 documents per minute brahh!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23120582)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 1:59 PM
Author: Vigorous Misunderstood Foreskin Tanning Salon

Seriously, that seems laughably low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23120941)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 2:16 PM
Author: Flirting internal respiration

something like this could easily take a week, 10 hrs/day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121038)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 3:06 PM
Author: spruce electric legend range

Yea I know. But ins client wouldn't pay for 42 hours worth. I'm hoping to squeeze 15-20 hours out of this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121258)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 3:11 PM
Author: Tan nighttime skinny woman

If you bill 15-20 to an insurer, they will cut it to 8-10. If you bill 40, they'll cut to 20. So err on the side of large.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121290)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 3:38 PM
Author: Flirting internal respiration

how much the client will pay for is not your problem. the partner can cut it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121474)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 3:10 PM
Author: Tan nighttime skinny woman

26,000 PAGES of documents, or 26,000 DOCUMENTS?

Either way, the amount of time you plan to spend on this borders on malpractice, unless the documents are hopelessly and obviously duplicative or are a bunch of shit you can't read or is clearly not relevant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121277)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 3:11 PM
Author: spruce electric legend range

How much time would be needed to review them? Half are clearly irrelevant just by a quick glance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121288)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 3:12 PM
Author: Tan nighttime skinny woman

Depends entirely on the documents; I mean, of course it's possible that it's like, 26,000 pages of meds or 26,000 pages of water table analyses or other shit you cannot possibly hope to read.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121295)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 3:11 PM
Author: Cordovan Vivacious Goal In Life Hell

Hot docs have probably mostly been flagged already and nobody else is ever gonna look at these. HTH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121291)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 3:13 PM
Author: Tan nighttime skinny woman

No sense in not taking one last, extremely comprehensive look. ;)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121298)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 4:03 PM
Author: spruce electric legend range

Good billing language for these 26k documents?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121640)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 4:05 PM
Author: Flirting internal respiration

are you able to block bill?

when i had large projects like this, i'd bill 10 hours to "reviewing and analyzing documents in preparation for trial."

they didn't like us offering more description of the nature of the documents since it usually raises more questions than not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121655)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 4:11 PM
Author: spruce electric legend range

Shit I wish I could block bill, but I can't. This ins company has tried to write down our bills several times. Last month, they stated that spending 1.2 hours analyzing 500 pages of documents was "excessive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121686)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 4:13 PM
Author: Shaky Bright Pisswyrm Dilemma

You can review 4,000 documents an hour?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121704)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 4:22 PM
Author: spruce electric legend range

Yea I underestimated. I've been at this for 8 hours and I'm barely halfway through it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121749)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 4:25 PM
Author: Sapphire sanctuary friendly grandma

Jesus Christ insurance defense sounds terrible. Why does anyone work in that area. NEVER ENDING pressure from cheap ass clients

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121759)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 4:27 PM
Author: spruce electric legend range

Guess my billing rate. 4th yr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121768)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 4:28 PM
Author: Sapphire sanctuary friendly grandma

$125

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121775)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 4:41 PM
Author: spruce electric legend range

Oh lord no, I'd quit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121836)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 4:42 PM
Author: Sapphire sanctuary friendly grandma

Who gives a shit about your rate. What is your salary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121850)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 4:49 PM
Author: spruce electric legend range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121880)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 4:52 PM
Author: Sapphire sanctuary friendly grandma

How many hours do you bill per year and what is your realization rate. I knew your comp was going to be based on collections given your focus on rates but was hoping youd give a number

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121896)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 5:03 PM
Author: spruce electric legend range

Realization is above 95%.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121959)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 8:48 AM
Author: Jade Cruel-hearted House

1 hour for every thousand docs dude.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23125945)