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Reviewing 26k documents today -- how much to bill?
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:25 AM Author: spruce electric legend range In prep for trial, going through 26k documents that were produced to look for trial exhibits. How much time can I bill for this? I estimate that it will actually take abt 6-7 hrs for this to complete. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23120173) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:42 AM Author: crusty spot If you're prepping for trial you should basically already have all your documents of interest for exhibits at hand already and really be choosing which you can use best and which can be stipped and/or entered into evidence. This makes no sense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23120240) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:43 AM Author: spruce electric legend range I'm unprepared? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23120245) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 12:40 PM Author: crusty spot Not saying that. It just seems odd that you're gearing up for trial but you're essentially doing a first pass doc review (26k docs).
Perhaps just a difference of "trial" prep means. To me it means all depos done, discovery done, all dispositive motions done, you have a trial date on the calendar and you're starting to think about key docs and depo excerpts and witness lists while you start ramping up your direct/cross scripts, etc.
I guess if that's the case you can only do what the bosses tell you to do. |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:43 AM Author: Cordovan Vivacious Goal In Life Hell That's silly. Why prepare for trial ahead of time when settlement is so likely? I've had to do this exact same assignment for several cases. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23120247) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:50 AM Author: spruce electric legend range This one wont settle. We r $6 million apart (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23120284) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 3:08 PM Author: Irradiated swollen people who are hurt abode LOL @ shitlaw.
That's about what a month of trial (including pre and post briefs + experts) costs at my firm. |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 3:14 PM Author: Tan nighttime skinny woman $6 million apart not settling means an 8 figure dispute which may mean a lot of things, but shitlaw likely is not one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121308) |
Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:25 AM Author: Cordovan Vivacious Goal In Life Hell 30 hours (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23120176) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 2:01 PM Author: Swashbuckling hairless ratface Depending on what the specific task is, this seems reasonable. And definitely not something to do "today." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23120955) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:44 AM Author: marvelous maroon institution $26,000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23120251) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 12:58 PM Author: cerise histrionic field milk Just do 46 documents per minute brahh! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23120582) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 1:59 PM Author: Vigorous Misunderstood Foreskin Tanning Salon Seriously, that seems laughably low. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23120941) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 2:16 PM Author: Flirting internal respiration something like this could easily take a week, 10 hrs/day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121038) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 3:06 PM Author: spruce electric legend range Yea I know. But ins client wouldn't pay for 42 hours worth. I'm hoping to squeeze 15-20 hours out of this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121258) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 3:11 PM Author: Tan nighttime skinny woman If you bill 15-20 to an insurer, they will cut it to 8-10. If you bill 40, they'll cut to 20. So err on the side of large. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121290) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 3:38 PM Author: Flirting internal respiration how much the client will pay for is not your problem. the partner can cut it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121474) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 3:10 PM Author: Tan nighttime skinny woman 26,000 PAGES of documents, or 26,000 DOCUMENTS?
Either way, the amount of time you plan to spend on this borders on malpractice, unless the documents are hopelessly and obviously duplicative or are a bunch of shit you can't read or is clearly not relevant. |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 3:11 PM Author: spruce electric legend range How much time would be needed to review them? Half are clearly irrelevant just by a quick glance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121288) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 3:12 PM Author: Tan nighttime skinny woman Depends entirely on the documents; I mean, of course it's possible that it's like, 26,000 pages of meds or 26,000 pages of water table analyses or other shit you cannot possibly hope to read. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121295) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 3:11 PM Author: Cordovan Vivacious Goal In Life Hell Hot docs have probably mostly been flagged already and nobody else is ever gonna look at these. HTH. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121291) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 3:13 PM Author: Tan nighttime skinny woman No sense in not taking one last, extremely comprehensive look. ;) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121298) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 4:03 PM Author: spruce electric legend range Good billing language for these 26k documents? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121640) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 4:05 PM Author: Flirting internal respiration are you able to block bill?
when i had large projects like this, i'd bill 10 hours to "reviewing and analyzing documents in preparation for trial."
they didn't like us offering more description of the nature of the documents since it usually raises more questions than not. |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 4:11 PM Author: spruce electric legend range Shit I wish I could block bill, but I can't. This ins company has tried to write down our bills several times. Last month, they stated that spending 1.2 hours analyzing 500 pages of documents was "excessive" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121686) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 4:13 PM Author: Shaky Bright Pisswyrm Dilemma You can review 4,000 documents an hour? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121704) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 4:22 PM Author: spruce electric legend range Yea I underestimated. I've been at this for 8 hours and I'm barely halfway through it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121749) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 4:25 PM Author: Sapphire sanctuary friendly grandma Jesus Christ insurance defense sounds terrible. Why does anyone work in that area. NEVER ENDING pressure from cheap ass clients (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121759) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 4:27 PM Author: spruce electric legend range Guess my billing rate. 4th yr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121768) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 4:28 PM Author: Sapphire sanctuary friendly grandma $125 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121775) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 4:41 PM Author: spruce electric legend range Oh lord no, I'd quit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121836) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 4:42 PM Author: Sapphire sanctuary friendly grandma Who gives a shit about your rate. What is your salary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121850) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 4:49 PM Author: spruce electric legend range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121880) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 4:52 PM Author: Sapphire sanctuary friendly grandma How many hours do you bill per year and what is your realization rate. I knew your comp was going to be based on collections given your focus on rates but was hoping youd give a number (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23121896) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2013 5:03 PM Author: spruce electric legend range Realization is above 95%.
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Date: May 3rd, 2013 8:48 AM Author: Jade Cruel-hearted House 1 hour for every thousand docs dude. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245464&forum_id=2#23125945) |