The best description I’ve ever read of Val Kilmer is that when he makes an acting choice he doesn’t play it straight and he doesn’t do the opposite, like the good ones. He does something perpendicular. And this movie is full of perpendicular choices that make him perfect for the straight man in an absurdist comedy.

Interesting note, the movie clearly codes homosexual as evil.

I rate it 7.5 Icemans.

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I also had never seen this movie (maybe once some Saturday on tv as a matinee) and really enjoyed it. It’s got a great cast totally committed to the preposterous premise.

Val Kilmer is again completely developed, fully inhabiting the total weirdness of his character, even as he has to find an emotional connection with a high school super genius. Every line and his physicality is delivered in such an unusual and surprising way. This is a fantastic way to kill an afternoon.

7.0 Icemans

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This is only Val Kilmer’s third film, but it’s the third time he’s cast as the Uber Male (bizarrely, his third time showing off his physical dexterity with his fingers).

Every scene is iconic and it sets the standard for the modern action movie, while featuring surprisingly little action. The flight scenes became the greatest recruiting tool in the history of the Pentagon and is still the reason they happily loan military equipment to almost any production.

As a kid the death of Goose was the second most affecting film death (behind Apollo Creed) and I can’t hear Good Balls of Fire without picturing a widowed Meg Ryan and Goose’s baby.

As explained by Quentin Tarantino, the film is a meditation on a young man deciding between heterosexuality and homosexuality and against Val Kilmer the ladies don’t stand a chance.

Val Kilmer’s performance is a smoldering, sweat-slicked fever dream of homoerotic tension. He struts onto the screen with a chiseled jawline and a cocksure swagger that practically drips with unspoken desire, turning every cockpit into a crucible of barely restrained lust. His icy blonde locks and piercing stares lock onto Maverick like a heat-seeking missile, each confrontation crackling with a subtext so thick you could cut it with a flight stick. The volleyball scene is a glistening, sun-drenched ballet of flexing biceps and taut torsos, where Kilmer’s smirking confidence and cool detachment feel like a teasing invitation, daring Maverick to close the distance. Their rivalry is less a clash of egos and more a dance of pent-up yearning.

Even Kelly Gillis’ trans man performance can’t sway Maverick away from the gay way.

“I want some butts!”

10 Icemans

https://youtu.be/ZF1LXL6OOsM?si=WLXTqc6Q7LzoC_mi

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can you pls post the films in chrono order? Id like to see the list and just run my eyes over his gorgeous filmography

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As an adult, I understand why. The plot is very basic shit, with dumb mythical creatures (the Brownies?). The humans aren’t even humans, they’re daikini. I did not enjoy having to spend so much time thinking about Warwick Davis’ monster hands. Also ridiculous that they’re forced to give a baby so much screen time - the movie would be much better if Elora was a tween.

But Val Kilmer delivers. It’s a complete 180 from his role as iceman, playing villainous, goofy, and heroic, often within moments of each other. He handles it as well as he can and is totally committed to the bit. It’s the George Lucas story/script that is mostly retarded.

I rate it 3 Icemans.

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Movie is a crisp 90 minutes that ends with a quintuple cross as the mob, cops, and others try to find Jack and some stolen mob money.

Michael Madsen as the bad news boyfriend is an unexpected surprise. Tarantino basically cast him to play the same role in Reservoir Dogs. Available free on Amazon Prime. This is a strong recommend if you’re looking for something to watch and want an old school potboiler.

7 Icemans

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I owned a VHS copy of this in middle school and would easily jerk off twice every time I watched, especially the black magic sex scene. This is also one of my favorite Oliver Stone movies. If you haven’t seen it, you must.

10 Icemans

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Kilmer, who is part Indian IRL, plays a part Indian FBI agent sent to Badlands South Dakota to investigate some recent murders set against internal political violence based on the real life American Indian Movement. It’s a solid, well made movie and Kilmer’s extremely in control playing a hothead who hates his family past.

If you like Wind River, you will like this movie because they’re extremely similar. It’s actually kind of surprising how woke (in the sense of awareness) this movie is for 1992, but I think that’s because the AIM and FBI fight was very public and well known at the time. Good watch, free on Prime.

I rate it 8 Icemans.

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But it is packed with great actors, including especially Powers Boothe and Val Kilmer. Kilmer’s Doc Holliday is considered the most iconic and he steals the scene every time he is on screen. Hopefully you’ve already seen this one and can just watch some clips of Kilmer online.

I rate it 7 Icemens and 10 Huckleberrys.

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https://youtu.be/Kk9A6E1EXjI?si=Ii9fHCEE0flsNd2h

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