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History bros: did Rome have a fifth column of barbarian-sympathizing traitors?

curious about this, tyia
comical rigpig
  09/07/15
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Charismatic out-of-control plaza
  09/07/15
of course. they were the christians later on, liberals early...
snowy cracking station place of business
  09/07/15
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well-lubricated temple
  09/07/15
There's no clean line between "Roman" and "Ba...
Rusted Address Clown
  09/07/15
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motley house-broken heaven
  09/07/15
sailer has a post on this today: http://www.unz.com/istev...
Cream main people
  09/07/15
Unusually responsive, thanks!
comical rigpig
  09/07/15
LOL at this quote from the NYT he cites: "While the ...
Appetizing transparent azn market
  09/07/15
Theodosius had the address to persuade his allies, that the ...
Stirring Center
  09/07/15
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Domesticated diverse people who are hurt
  10/02/15
JFC
crystalline kitchen travel guidebook
  10/02/15
wtfffffffffff
orange shitlib home
  11/09/15
Yes, they were the "partius teabaggerus"
fishy rehab
  09/07/15
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fishy rehab
  02/19/25
tcq
saffron piazza
  09/07/15
probably all the decadent homosexuals
Deranged boyish chad
  09/07/15
weren't the Gauls given positions a few hundred years prior ...
heady lemon trust fund dysfunction
  10/02/15
Yes. The Romans had had a policy for hundreds of years befo...
grizzly idiot
  10/02/15
Claudius, The 4th emperor wasn't born in Italy bro.
Stimulating kitty cat
  10/02/15
Gauls? The fuck? The goths and Vandals sacked Rome. They dr...
Stimulating kitty cat
  10/02/15
by the end of the empire most of the military were germanic ...
Blathering locus
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crystalline kitchen travel guidebook
  10/02/15
no the hooknosed moneylenders were still in the levant back ...
crystalline kitchen travel guidebook
  10/02/15
Reptilian Chineaseum
fishy rehab
  10/02/15
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Rom...
massive theater stage bbw
  11/09/15
The Christians. Read "City of God".
Light swashbuckling business firm
  11/09/15
They destroyed it so hard that it lasted for 1000 more years...
Stimulating kitty cat
  11/09/15
just walk outside bro
irate sanctuary
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irate sanctuary
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irate sanctuary
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irate sanctuary
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irate sanctuary
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nyuug
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nyuug
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nyuug
  03/10/25
The barbarians were objectively better, that's why they won
Jade sandwich
  02/19/25
Yep, they were known as the Trumpites
fishy rehab
  02/19/25
It had Jews
Histrionic swollen church building fanboi
  02/19/25


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Date: September 7th, 2015 10:03 AM
Author: comical rigpig

curious about this, tyia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#28705153)



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Date: September 7th, 2015 10:09 AM
Author: Charismatic out-of-control plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#28705179)



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Date: September 7th, 2015 10:11 AM
Author: snowy cracking station place of business

of course. they were the christians later on, liberals early.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#28705194)



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Date: September 7th, 2015 10:11 AM
Author: well-lubricated temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#28705196)



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Date: September 7th, 2015 10:15 AM
Author: Rusted Address Clown

There's no clean line between "Roman" and "Barbarian," in that there were several barbarian emperors and quasi-emperors starting with Thrax. In general, the later in Roman history you go the less attachment there is to a "pure" Roman identity. Rome itself was politically and strategically irrelevant in the later years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#28705210)



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Date: September 7th, 2015 5:14 PM
Author: motley house-broken heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#28707134)



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Date: September 7th, 2015 10:16 AM
Author: Cream main people

sailer has a post on this today:

http://www.unz.com/isteve/civilization-capitulates-to-barbarism-at-the-danube-in-the-decline-and-fall-of-the-roman-empire/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#28705216)



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Date: September 7th, 2015 11:01 AM
Author: comical rigpig

Unusually responsive, thanks!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#28705475)



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Date: September 7th, 2015 11:03 AM
Author: Appetizing transparent azn market

LOL at this quote from the NYT he cites:

"While the prospect of accepting an expected 800,000 new residents this year offers Germany an opportunity to rejuvenate its aging demographics and ensure its economic prosperity, it also challenges a prevailing cultural consensus of what it means to be German."

jfc, GAS the media.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#28705491)



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Date: September 7th, 2015 11:45 AM
Author: Stirring Center

Theodosius had the address to persuade his allies, that the conditions of peace, which had been extorted from him by prudence and necessity, were the voluntary expressions of his sincere friendship for the Gothic nation. …

The advocates of Theodosius could affirm, with some appearance of truth and reason, that it was impossible to extirpate so many warlike tribes, who were rendered desperate by the loss of their native country; and that the exhausted provinces would be revived by a fresh supply of soldiers and husbandmen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#28705719)



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Date: October 2nd, 2015 9:38 PM
Author: Domesticated diverse people who are hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#28887516)



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Date: October 2nd, 2015 10:18 PM
Author: crystalline kitchen travel guidebook

JFC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#28887848)



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Date: November 9th, 2015 10:35 PM
Author: orange shitlib home

wtfffffffffff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#29148545)



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Date: September 7th, 2015 11:02 AM
Author: fishy rehab

Yes, they were the "partius teabaggerus"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#28705485)



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Date: February 19th, 2025 6:03 AM
Author: fishy rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#48673628)



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Date: September 7th, 2015 5:27 PM
Author: saffron piazza

tcq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#28707191)



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Date: September 7th, 2015 5:28 PM
Author: Deranged boyish chad

probably all the decadent homosexuals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#28707194)



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Date: October 2nd, 2015 9:39 PM
Author: heady lemon trust fund dysfunction

weren't the Gauls given positions a few hundred years prior to sacking the FUCK out of Rome

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#28887528)



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Date: October 2nd, 2015 10:27 PM
Author: grizzly idiot

Yes. The Romans had had a policy for hundreds of years before the fall of allowing some barbarians into the Empire with the intention of Romanising them to provide extra manpower.

You can see this in the later Empire with non-Roman origin names becoming more common among the political and military leadership.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#28887914)



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Date: October 2nd, 2015 10:36 PM
Author: Stimulating kitty cat

Claudius, The 4th emperor wasn't born in Italy bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#28887991)



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Date: October 2nd, 2015 10:33 PM
Author: Stimulating kitty cat

Gauls? The fuck? The goths and Vandals sacked Rome. They drove the Gauls out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#28887962)



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Date: October 2nd, 2015 9:41 PM
Author: Blathering locus

by the end of the empire most of the military were germanic and half the top generals were romanized german leaders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#28887552)



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Date: October 2nd, 2015 10:18 PM
Author: crystalline kitchen travel guidebook



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#28887845)



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Date: October 2nd, 2015 10:19 PM
Author: crystalline kitchen travel guidebook

no the hooknosed moneylenders were still in the levant back then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#28887851)



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Date: October 2nd, 2015 10:37 PM
Author: fishy rehab

Reptilian Chineaseum

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#28888002)



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Date: November 9th, 2015 9:19 PM
Author: massive theater stage bbw

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Roman_Empire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#29147804)



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Date: November 9th, 2015 10:36 PM
Author: Light swashbuckling business firm

The Christians. Read "City of God".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#29148551)



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Date: November 9th, 2015 10:47 PM
Author: Stimulating kitty cat

They destroyed it so hard that it lasted for 1000 more years in the east.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#29148664)



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Date: February 19th, 2025 12:01 AM
Author: irate sanctuary

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#48673477)



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Date: February 19th, 2025 5:39 PM
Author: irate sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#48676036)



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Date: February 24th, 2025 1:08 AM
Author: irate sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#48688314)



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Date: February 25th, 2025 11:11 PM
Author: irate sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#48694592)



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Date: February 26th, 2025 8:40 PM
Author: irate sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#48697287)



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Date: March 4th, 2025 8:02 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#48714926)



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Date: March 6th, 2025 4:17 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#48722228)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 1:21 AM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#48732181)



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Date: February 19th, 2025 2:50 AM
Author: Jade sandwich

The barbarians were objectively better, that's why they won

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#48673596)



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Date: February 19th, 2025 5:58 PM
Author: fishy rehab

Yep, they were known as the Trumpites

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#48676122)



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Date: February 19th, 2025 6:04 PM
Author: Histrionic swollen church building fanboi

It had Jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2983212&forum_id=2#48676149)