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Obamacare: the downfall of America?

Are most businesses going to cut employee hours to part time...
Concupiscible corner
  11/16/12
Short answer: yes. Long answer: any one law (unless i...
Pontificating codepig
  11/16/12
What should a upper-middle class white do to secure their po...
cyan massive shrine pocket flask
  11/16/12
probably where are you guys going to put your money? leav...
Concupiscible corner
  11/16/12
(Mitt Romney, clearly still angry about losing the election)
Bearded halford
  11/16/12
as dark as this sounds, this is probably the future of ameri...
Concupiscible corner
  11/16/12
cr
Startled crotch
  11/17/12
a tad pessimistic. Because of the sheer size of the country,...
Unhinged Excitant Stead Police Squad
  11/17/12
heh if "large scale secession" is the rosy scenari...
Pontificating codepig
  11/17/12
God you sound dumb. How the fuck is a state going to sece...
disgusting twisted heaven main people
  11/18/12
what's more likely is that the federal gov will collapse/can...
Concupiscible corner
  11/19/12
nah just the downfall of shitty, inefficient companies
Electric Purple Brunch Boiling Water
  11/16/12
tbf, this is like saying a guy who opens fire in a crowded m...
Unhinged Excitant Stead Police Squad
  11/17/12
The idea that in our shitcapitalistic society where employee...
cracking jade bbw
  11/17/12
Not at papa johns where most employees are already making mi...
Stimulating High-end Dragon Gay Wizard
  11/17/12
(pumo problems)
dull stag film digit ratio
  11/17/12
ONLY HOAP: MAJOR ADVANCES IN COMPUTING AND ROBOTICS SUPPRESS...
Kink-friendly Curious Ladyboy
  11/17/12
Obamacare is actually the most retarded health care law that...
Milky Tantric Space
  11/17/12
but they had to pass it, just so they could know what's in i...
Claret party of the first part
  11/17/12
TI, OC, TCR
Bearded halford
  11/17/12
Agreed. Government run healthcare has destroyed all other in...
abusive sapphire cruise ship foreskin
  11/17/12
Not surprising you would make a post this stupid and wrong. ...
Unhinged Excitant Stead Police Squad
  11/17/12
I love how you pretend that you are a libertarian when you a...
Stimulating High-end Dragon Gay Wizard
  11/17/12
how is his post not libertarian?
cyan massive shrine pocket flask
  11/17/12
No, you just are incapable of coherent thought so anything t...
Unhinged Excitant Stead Police Squad
  11/17/12
Have you ever argued against a Republican position on this b...
Fluffy Cowardly Lodge Mother
  11/17/12
corporatist care is republican, tard
cyan massive shrine pocket flask
  11/17/12
Plenty of times, the reality however is that the majority po...
Unhinged Excitant Stead Police Squad
  11/17/12
What's your take on unions and gay marriage?
Blue mind-boggling den
  11/17/12
Basically an attack against both the Dem and Repub stances ...
Unhinged Excitant Stead Police Squad
  11/17/12
i am surprised you haven't left this board. in most debates ...
cyan massive shrine pocket flask
  11/17/12
that's because he's a moron, though.
Duck-like plum coldplay fan
  11/17/12
Singapore doesn't help your case. It's a statist economy wit...
Jet coffee pot
  11/18/12
BUT IT HAS LOW TAXES AND IS THEREFORE AUSTRIAN ECONOMIC CAPI...
dull stag film digit ratio
  11/19/12
singapore has a population of what, 5? the difference is tha...
Concupiscible corner
  11/19/12
...
chestnut rough-skinned national
  11/18/12
baffling how it's called obamacare when it's an assortment o...
chestnut rough-skinned national
  11/18/12
stfu, conturds care about facts and would never defame a lib...
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  11/18/12
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Date: November 16th, 2012 10:17 PM
Author: Concupiscible corner

Are most businesses going to cut employee hours to part time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22060778)



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Date: November 16th, 2012 10:50 PM
Author: Pontificating codepig

Short answer: yes.

Long answer:

any one law (unless it was like "abolish the ownership of private property") wouldn't be the death of america.

if we were pretty much ONLY stupid on socialized healthcare, but were laissez faire in other areas, it wouldn't be a huge deal. i think hong kong has some socialized health care stuff, and they're doing alright i think?

obamacare PILED ON TOP of our existing debt and entitlements/giveaways/regulations will probably destroy all hoap, however.

THE FUTURE:

in a couple of decades the Dems will have established total electoral hegemony, regularly cruising to 350EV+ victories with even Texas having been turned blue due to underlying demographic changes. Instead of discussions of serious entitlement reform, the only political conversations will be which faction of the Democratic party should be appeased most this year, and whether the capital gains rate should be raised to 60% or 70%. 2/3 or more of all voters will vote not based on issues but which candidate "feels for people like them" the most, and the Dems will win over those emotional type voters overwhelmingly.

eventual, the economy/society will collapse, as people take to fighting in the streets and commie/fascist movements gain currency, as is happening in greece. some states may try and pull away, but they'll be crushed by the overwhelming might of the dying remnants of the US Federal Government. At least while those remnants exist, shortly before society totally collapses and we slip into a new dark age.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22060898)



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Date: November 16th, 2012 10:55 PM
Author: cyan massive shrine pocket flask

What should a upper-middle class white do to secure their position? Move to Asia?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22060924)



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Date: November 16th, 2012 11:38 PM
Author: Concupiscible corner

probably

where are you guys going to put your money? leave them in american banks or move them to switzerland or what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22061235)



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Date: November 16th, 2012 11:08 PM
Author: Bearded halford

(Mitt Romney, clearly still angry about losing the election)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22061020)



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Date: November 16th, 2012 11:38 PM
Author: Concupiscible corner

as dark as this sounds, this is probably the future of america

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22061240)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 9:19 AM
Author: Startled crotch

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22062332)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 10:37 AM
Author: Unhinged Excitant Stead Police Squad

a tad pessimistic. Because of the sheer size of the country, I think you would see states fracture away from the union and some of those states, if only a minority, would still hold onto basic principles surrounding private property and liberty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22062545)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 11:55 AM
Author: Pontificating codepig

heh if "large scale secession" is the rosy scenario we're still pretty fuct

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22062808)



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Date: November 18th, 2012 9:26 AM
Author: disgusting twisted heaven main people

God you sound dumb.

How the fuck is a state going to secede from the Gov't and still function without Fed resources/benefits?

What, they are going to pay to fix THEIR OWN interstates?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22068029)



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Date: November 19th, 2012 1:24 AM
Author: Concupiscible corner

what's more likely is that the federal gov will collapse/can't afford to function, yet states will not secede because there's no point since they are broke without the fed gov, and you will see mass emigration of recent immigrants back to their origin countries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22073296)



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Date: November 16th, 2012 10:52 PM
Author: Electric Purple Brunch Boiling Water

nah just the downfall of shitty, inefficient companies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22060905)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 10:40 AM
Author: Unhinged Excitant Stead Police Squad

tbf, this is like saying a guy who opens fire in a crowded mall is just going to mostly kill the slow and stupid. On the whole, probably correct, but irrelevant to any analysis (ethical or otherwise) of the legitimacy of opening firing in a crowded mall.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22062553)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 4:42 AM
Author: cracking jade bbw

The idea that in our shitcapitalistic society where employees have no rights that companies won't just factor in obamacare costs by lowering employee's salaries is SHITRIDUCLOUSNIGGACRAP

all these faggots just wnt give their employees wages and will use obamacare as an excuse to raise prices... they win in the end... fuck u niggas

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22062108)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 10:56 AM
Author: Stimulating High-end Dragon Gay Wizard

Not at papa johns where most employees are already making minimum wage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22062598)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 5:02 AM
Author: dull stag film digit ratio

(pumo problems)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22062120)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 7:28 AM
Author: Kink-friendly Curious Ladyboy

ONLY HOAP: MAJOR ADVANCES IN COMPUTING AND ROBOTICS SUPPRESS HEALTH CARE COSTS LOWER THAN WHAT OUR WILDEST DREAMS CAN CONJURE. RAISE YOUR CHILDREN TO COVET STEM DEGREES.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22062224)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 9:28 AM
Author: Milky Tantric Space

Obamacare is actually the most retarded health care law that could have been passed. If you're going to socialize, just do single-payer system, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22062348)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 10:31 AM
Author: Claret party of the first part

but they had to pass it, just so they could know what's in it!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22062524)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 10:40 AM
Author: Bearded halford

TI, OC, TCR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22062552)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 10:44 AM
Author: abusive sapphire cruise ship foreskin

Agreed. Government run healthcare has destroyed all other industrial economies. I can't see how anyone would vote for obamacare considering what similar plans have done to Massachusetts, Switzerland, Singapore etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22062555)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 10:49 AM
Author: Unhinged Excitant Stead Police Squad

Not surprising you would make a post this stupid and wrong.

1) Obamacare != "Government run healthcare", it is a fucking mutation that has the worst of both socialized care and corporatist care.

2) The Swiss and especially Singapore systems are VERY different vs. American system (or even the Canadian and UK versions).

3) As others have said, Obamacare on its own is not horrible, if the government is not also fucking other things up. Singapore does a pretty good job in managing and staying out of other aspect of the economy, America and its government do not. Likewise, with Mass, it can afford to handle this because of its demographics, wealth and the fact that it is much easier to manage the bureaucracy of something like the ACA when it is over 6M instead of 320M people. The situation with No Child Left Behind is similar: Could work out alright when manged over 6M people but fails miserably when you try and implement over 320M.

Spend 30 seconds THINKING before you post moronic comparisons of apples and oranges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22062570)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 10:58 AM
Author: Stimulating High-end Dragon Gay Wizard

I love how you pretend that you are a libertarian when you are really just a garden variety reptile.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22062600)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 11:00 AM
Author: cyan massive shrine pocket flask

how is his post not libertarian?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22062605)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 11:00 AM
Author: Unhinged Excitant Stead Police Squad

No, you just are incapable of coherent thought so anything that goes against your shitlib beliefs *must* be a reptile position.

For example, if you bothered to think, you would realize that no reptile would denounce "corporatist care".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22062607)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 11:04 AM
Author: Fluffy Cowardly Lodge Mother

Have you ever argued against a Republican position on this board?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22062620)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 11:05 AM
Author: cyan massive shrine pocket flask

corporatist care is republican, tard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22062623)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 11:07 AM
Author: Unhinged Excitant Stead Police Squad

Plenty of times, the reality however is that the majority position on this bort is shitlib so most Republican positions are already sufficiently attacked. I have however still attacked their positions on unions, gay marriage, etc. Infact in this very thread I attack the current corporatist HC regime which is most certainly a Republican position.

What amazes me is that half of you think I am a reptile, the other half think I am an aspie who applies libertarian principles too far. Which is it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22062626)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 11:10 AM
Author: Blue mind-boggling den

What's your take on unions and gay marriage?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22062638)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 11:14 AM
Author: Unhinged Excitant Stead Police Squad

Basically an attack against both the Dem and Repub stances

Unions: The idea of collective bargaining is 100% fine and the early anti-union actions (union busters, etc) were totally inappropriate. That being said, unions should not be afforded special legal bennies. That means not be allowed the block private property, force employers to deal with them, stop employers from firing people. etc.

GM: The government should have no role in defining or controlling marriage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22062649)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 11:11 AM
Author: cyan massive shrine pocket flask

i am surprised you haven't left this board. in most debates people simply insult you and fail to engage you intellectually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22062641)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 11:14 AM
Author: Duck-like plum coldplay fan

that's because he's a moron, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22062647)



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Date: November 18th, 2012 10:19 AM
Author: Jet coffee pot

Singapore doesn't help your case. It's a statist economy with huge government relative to it's size. They've nationalized a bunch of industries and have huge entitlements, including the right to government housing, wHich like 90% of the population lives in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22068085)



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Date: November 19th, 2012 1:27 AM
Author: dull stag film digit ratio

BUT IT HAS LOW TAXES AND IS THEREFORE AUSTRIAN ECONOMIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22073304)



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Date: November 19th, 2012 1:28 AM
Author: Concupiscible corner

singapore has a population of what, 5? the difference is that america is far too big to be managed by a large entity like the us federal government in conjunction with state governments

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22073312)



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Date: November 18th, 2012 9:45 AM
Author: chestnut rough-skinned national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22068060)



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Date: November 18th, 2012 10:26 AM
Author: chestnut rough-skinned national

baffling how it's called obamacare when it's an assortment of policies pioneered by romney and ryan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22068095)



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Date: November 18th, 2012 10:32 AM
Author: cracking jade bbw

stfu, conturds care about facts and would never defame a libturd policy or politicians based on irrational ideas that are not based 100% on facts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#22068098)



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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2#49128740)



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Date: July 27th, 2025 6:57 PM
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