but no - let's go max heavy shoulder lifts until our tendons inexplicably tear, then spend the next decade in "rehab" while trying to patch things up and get back to the glory days, then give up entirely as the thing dissolves into a constant state of agony and pain, resigning you to a miserable life as a defeated broken cripple.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282046)

benching with no more than 135.

deadlifting with no more than 225lb.

squatting, only up to parallel, with no more than 205lb.

OHP up to 95lb.

lat pulldowns 120lb.

thats all you need.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282093)

And lol at these ratios, DL will be much higher than bench

An under 40 man should aim for a 200 press/300 bench/400 squat/500 dl as a base after 3-5 years of training

You should be at a 225 bench 315 squat 405 dl within 18 mos at most

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282106)

most men should not be deadlifting AT ALL, given their priorities and fitness goals, let alone deadlifting 500 lb.

please tell me, WHY should they be deadlifting 500 lb except for the weird badge of masculinity that they'd earn in your twisted sick bodybuilding universe?

they should be playing some sports, doing stretches and calisthenics, and picking up a weight occasionally. you fucking freaks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282146)

I hit these numbers full natty after 4 years of training

You can be a bitch and sumo dl if you have bad leverages

Also not a bodybuilder most bodybuilders are weak fucks who can’t deadlift

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282154)

yeah you need to dl 500 lb to "be useful" and "die less"

AHAHAHAHHAHA

your cognitive dissonance and inability to think logically about what you do and why you do it, is evidence enough that you gym FREAKS cannot be reasoned with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282185)

no, even what you think is a pedestrian weight is excessive, and certainly UNNECESSARY, in the grand scheme.

go for a long distance run or do some yoga or something. no need to bench more than 135.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282136)

what's the point of physical fitness for you? i don't get why you have animus against people who derive enjoyment from and take pride in lifting more than a minimal amount, most people do not get catastrophically injured.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282151)

you'll look WORSE for girls if you get much bigger.

i could look better by doing more cardio or improving flexibility.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282227)

jfc what is wrong with you you fucking bug faced incel chink?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282197)

This OP is just more slant eyed tunnel vision.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282206)

you're still young, but i look forward to your "fuck my rotator cuff!" threads within a few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282221)

I wouldn't recommend weightlifting for incels but not everyone fits that category

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282238)

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006869&mc=17&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282251)

Look I'm sorry sometimes your threads are insightful but far too often you project your Asian-ness onto humanity as a whole.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282256)

"It has no biomedical basis, lacks clinical meaningfulness, and is categorized as pseudoscientific by leading chiropractic authorities."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertebral_subluxation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282500)

Like someone above said, if you were meant to have muscles, you would have had them. Many many people, and 95% of this thread, confuses lifting with a healthy life. Which is really dumb. If you have injuries then you are NOT healthy. Also you will pay for your excesses later in life. We are not meant to be lifting super heavy shit. Your life is not just your 20s. Hopefully there are 40s and 50s and even 80s. Conserve your body. Take a walk, swim, jog a bit, read and learn new things, and eat greens - there ... healthy.

And LJL at listening to boner police. His asshole gets blown out every other day by damn daddy for a reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36282846)

I wouldn't take your absolutist approach (I go to the gym) but it's pretty obvious that serious lifting will substantially increase your risk of injury and future back/should problems. And no, it's not just about proper form. Ask people who've worked in construction or in the moving industry for decades. They can use proper form and belts and harnesses to protect them but they can't escape the long-term wear and tear that pummels their bodies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36283890)

maintaining a lifting routine and keeping yourself strong will make it less likely that you get injured, not the other way around

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36283999)

"maintaining a lifting routine and keeping yourself strong will make it less likely that you get injured, not the other way around"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36284009)

you don't need 500 lb deadlift strength to "safely" pick up your fucking kids

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36284113)

i put the cut-off at 135 lb - you don't need more than that.

where would you put the cut-off at then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36284152)

For squats and deadlifts - 150%-175%

Military press - 70-80%

10xpullup wothout rest

50-75 pushups without rest

100 situps without rest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36284177)

but just to be clear: you are vehemently AGAINST the bodybuilding mindset of continually increasing the weight w/o limit except what the body is capable of doing, correct? you're FOR setting reasonable functional targets, and staying around there for maintenance, correct?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36284194)

my proposal - lift, but no more than 135 lb is needed - is the true moderate position, but it's being lampooned and called a sissy boy approach ITT. why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36284171)

they find comfort and safety in saying the word "form" and doing some stretches and mirror-checks, but that's NOTHING to compensate against the unnatural harms of picking up 500 lb of metal off the floor over long periods of time. it's absurd and shows how idiotic and brainwashed they are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36284132)

I have never tried to deadlift or squat more than 175% of my bodyweight.

You dont need to put up huge numbers to be reasonably strong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36284164)

You should be able to bench your own bodyweight at least 5 times.

For squats and deadlifts - 150%-175%

Military press - 70-80%

10xpullup wothout rest

50-75 pushups without rest

100 situps without rest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36284198)

if i want to challenge myself, i just do more reps.

i'm simply against the idea of increasing the weight to some monstrous figure in order to do max effort lifts just to get my numbers up and to impress some other dudes.

the point is that i feel 135 lb, or for you 180 lb, is a reasonable weight, and something you play around with to maintain your functional fitness, instead of chasing the bodybuilding mindset of continually increasing gains.

if you agree with the gist of what i'm saying, then you SUPPORT me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36284213)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36284209)

there you go again, dumb meathead attitude. you're going to get injured and i'm going to laugh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36284220)

CR is walking, cycling (for fun), and pickleball (for fun)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36284226)

Gym - Sunday/Wed

Hoops - Tuesday/Thursday

Hiking - Every few weeks

Then daily - just being active. Make sure to play with nieces and nephews. Race them etc.

You really have to be active to counter the 5 hours at work sitting behind a desk. Otherwise you’re muscles will atrophy from lack of movement and stress.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36284327)

hoops dangerous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36284342)

OP is definitely deranged, but he has a very good point here. Just do push-ups, pull ups, crunches, free squats, etc. if you have some weird compulsion to push weight, get some kettle bells.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36284960)

"oh yeah dtp is totally deranged on other topics, but here he really has a good point!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36285032)

The guys who have issues are the ones who think you need to spend three hours in the gym doing stupid cable exercises and lifting max weight all the time. Spend 30-45 minutes doing compounds and body weight exercises 3-5 times a week and you will be fine. Also play a sport at least once a week. I've had multiple surgeries from trauma injuries and lift and run with no pain using these few weird tricks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36285065)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36285117)

Also rich coming from you with your appeals to the dubious authority of the nutritionfacts quack, and general black-and-white thinking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36285198)

Avoid barbell benching, heavy overhead pressing, too much bicep work, and dips depending on how it impacts your shoulder. All of these wear on your shoulder.

Focus on pushups (or dumbell presses), pullups, rows, goblet squats, RDLs. You'll be fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006910&forum_id=2#36286089)