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Law clerk did shitty work - let it go or report it up the chain?

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diverse field
  04/24/13
i'd say chew him out pretty good but don't rat him out unles...
Stimulating stage
  04/24/13
Why don't you just bitch him out and make him redo it?
racy house hunting ground
  04/24/13
just sit down with him and run through all the problems with...
pearly swashbuckling home
  04/24/13
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diverse field
  04/24/13
Very important. What was the fuck up? If it was something...
maroon hyperactive chapel background story
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diverse field
  04/24/13
lol as if he cares what johnsmeyer thinks
mahogany casino
  04/24/13
180
maroon hyperactive chapel background story
  04/24/13
is he coming on after graduation?
Olive Excitant Jewess
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diverse field
  04/24/13
"....he should be thankful he has this opportunity.&quo...
learning disabled mind-boggling double fault goyim
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hyperventilating concupiscible party of the first part pocket flask
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diverse field
  04/24/13
How much does he get paid? How large is the firm?
racy house hunting ground
  04/24/13
only credited question in the entire thread
Razzle-dazzle harsh temple organic girlfriend
  06/18/13
I'd say chew his ass out, but do what you can to cover for h...
exhilarant stain faggotry
  04/24/13
this
Fragrant Volcanic Crater
  04/24/13
titcr
Bipolar Property
  04/24/13
180, especially this part: "Make sure he knows that ...
Talented laser beams
  04/25/13
i.e., pulling a Pete Campbell?
Mischievous nofapping crotch bawdyhouse
  06/18/13
are you female? just deal with this between the two of you. ...
hyperventilating concupiscible party of the first part pocket flask
  04/24/13
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diverse field
  04/24/13
If he fucks up again though, you know what to do ---> shi...
titillating turquoise sanctuary circlehead
  04/24/13
How much does he get paid? Biglaw? Is this one of those ip e...
Avocado Hot Wagecucks
  04/24/13
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diverse field
  04/24/13
If he gets paid a shit ton then there is no excuse. If it i...
kink-friendly school cafeteria
  04/24/13
protip most people -- especially perfectionist law dorks -- ...
hyperventilating concupiscible party of the first part pocket flask
  04/25/13
I don't believe that you're a professional employment consul...
Avocado Hot Wagecucks
  04/25/13
if it's a small office, dont cover for him. you dont want to...
Twisted hairraiser nursing home new version
  04/24/13
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big principal's office
  04/25/13
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diverse field
  06/18/13
Did he have a good reputation before this? It's hard to ...
nighttime preventive strike orchestra pit
  06/18/13
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diverse field
  06/18/13
what type of firm are you at? no doobs but it's kind of ...
Razzle-dazzle harsh temple organic girlfriend
  06/18/13
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diverse field
  06/18/13
gotcha. so this is like non-shitlaw type stuff?
Razzle-dazzle harsh temple organic girlfriend
  06/18/13
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diverse field
  06/18/13
so this bro just cost himself huge since he went from potent...
Razzle-dazzle harsh temple organic girlfriend
  06/18/13
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diverse field
  06/18/13
How times have changed. Back in the old days even Cravath wo...
disrespectful cerebral fanboi
  06/18/13
if you already knew everything he needed to do and gave him ...
yellow senate
  06/18/13
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diverse field
  06/18/13
the way you described it made it seem like you told him exac...
yellow senate
  06/18/13
How did he get hired if he is seemingly too dumb to finish p...
flirting khaki fat ankles nowag
  06/18/13
Do you feel any guilt you ruined this bros life?
rebellious hairy legs multi-billionaire
  06/18/13
School range? If legit TTT then don't feel bad, he shouldn'...
Pungent bronze church
  06/18/13


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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:08 PM
Author: diverse field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068369)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:09 PM
Author: Stimulating stage

i'd say chew him out pretty good but don't rat him out unless he fucks up again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068377)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:09 PM
Author: racy house hunting ground

Why don't you just bitch him out and make him redo it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068379)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:10 PM
Author: pearly swashbuckling home

just sit down with him and run through all the problems with it. you probably should have checked in with him sooner to see how he was progressing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068387)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:11 PM
Author: diverse field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068400)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:14 PM
Author: maroon hyperactive chapel background story

Very important. What was the fuck up?

If it was something like a SJ motion, he has no excuses. Even if the arguments are off, it should be relatively straightforward.

But if it's something obscure where 5 people in the history of the earth ever did, and he messed up, cut him some slack.

Example, once a dude asked me to draft some NY REAL PROPERTY MOTION Discharging a mortgage. There were no samples, he had no idea how to do it, and the clerk of the court was like "LOL". I had no idea what law it was based on.

I ended up doing it based on reading the CPLR and the NY Real Property Law and it took THREE filings for the judge to actually accept it.

Client was pissed it took so long but MY BAD BRO I HAD NO IDEA HOW TO DO IT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068412)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:16 PM
Author: diverse field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068428)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:17 PM
Author: mahogany casino

lol as if he cares what johnsmeyer thinks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068432)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:21 PM
Author: maroon hyperactive chapel background story

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068472)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:09 PM
Author: Olive Excitant Jewess

is he coming on after graduation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068378)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:10 PM
Author: diverse field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068390)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:11 PM
Author: learning disabled mind-boggling double fault goyim

"....he should be thankful he has this opportunity."

You sound like a fucking boomer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068395)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:13 PM
Author: hyperventilating concupiscible party of the first part pocket flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068407)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:13 PM
Author: diverse field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068408)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:21 PM
Author: racy house hunting ground

How much does he get paid? How large is the firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068467)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:12 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle harsh temple organic girlfriend

only credited question in the entire thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424545)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:14 PM
Author: exhilarant stain faggotry

I'd say chew his ass out, but do what you can to cover for him. Make sure he knows that he is your bitch now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068414)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:19 PM
Author: Fragrant Volcanic Crater

this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068445)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 6:23 PM
Author: Bipolar Property

titcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068870)



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Date: April 25th, 2013 11:53 AM
Author: Talented laser beams

180, especially this part:

"Make sure he knows that he is your bitch now"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074226)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:28 PM
Author: Mischievous nofapping crotch bawdyhouse

i.e., pulling a Pete Campbell?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424678)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:15 PM
Author: hyperventilating concupiscible party of the first part pocket flask

are you female? just deal with this between the two of you. i would say patiently go through it with him and make it obvious how much it sucks but without directly saying it sucks.

the best policy is to shame him in a way that makes him feel he let you down but without him feeling resentment toward you. so don't be a dick to him about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068419)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:18 PM
Author: diverse field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068437)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:20 PM
Author: titillating turquoise sanctuary circlehead

If he fucks up again though, you know what to do ---> shitcan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068455)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:20 PM
Author: Avocado Hot Wagecucks

How much does he get paid? Biglaw? Is this one of those ip externship deals?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068457)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:23 PM
Author: diverse field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068487)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 6:19 PM
Author: kink-friendly school cafeteria

If he gets paid a shit ton then there is no excuse. If it is $12 an hour and is drafting Motions or briefs or has some esoteric research assignment then maybe not. As you shoudld have been more on top of it. This doesn't sound like is the case though.

Sidenote: When I was a clerk, I was getting $10-15. One time, a Partner wrote "shit" on one of the briefs I drafted for him. The only real reason he told me he wrote it was because I didn't repetitively include a common phrase/piece of jargon that he had wrote in the margins a few times. I will never forget that day.

I probably would have little pity for a highly paid kid who just does shit work on petty shit.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068850)



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Date: April 25th, 2013 12:06 PM
Author: hyperventilating concupiscible party of the first part pocket flask

protip most people -- especially perfectionist law dorks -- will do their best whether making $15 per hour or $50 per hour. and some people may actually perform WORSE making more because they feel too stressed to be perfect given their high pay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074285)



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Date: April 25th, 2013 12:14 PM
Author: Avocado Hot Wagecucks

I don't believe that you're a professional employment consultant and that was REMINDER at best.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074327)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 6:22 PM
Author: Twisted hairraiser nursing home new version

if it's a small office, dont cover for him. you dont want to have to work with a bitchass like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068867)



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Date: April 25th, 2013 11:54 AM
Author: big principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074231)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:07 PM
Author: diverse field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424518)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:13 PM
Author: nighttime preventive strike orchestra pit

Did he have a good reputation before this?

It's hard to imagine someone doing that unless they don't care / don't respect you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424546)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:14 PM
Author: diverse field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424556)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:13 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle harsh temple organic girlfriend

what type of firm are you at?

no doobs but it's kind of hard to get a handle on all this b/c i've never heard of a firm with a 3L clerk or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424550)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:15 PM
Author: diverse field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424564)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:16 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle harsh temple organic girlfriend

gotcha. so this is like non-shitlaw type stuff?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424572)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:16 PM
Author: diverse field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424575)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:17 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle harsh temple organic girlfriend

so this bro just cost himself huge since he went from potential midlaw type salary to NEVERWILLBEJERB

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424583)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:19 PM
Author: diverse field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424599)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:17 PM
Author: disrespectful cerebral fanboi

How times have changed. Back in the old days even Cravath would ask summers to stay on as 3L law clerks who work part time. 'twas a simpler time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424581)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:19 PM
Author: yellow senate

if you already knew everything he needed to do and gave him from Friday until Sunday to do it, why did it then take you so long to do it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424594)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:21 PM
Author: diverse field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424614)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:24 PM
Author: yellow senate

the way you described it made it seem like you told him exactly what needed to be done to fix stuff, not that he was rewriting/researching stuff from scratch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424637)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:57 PM
Author: flirting khaki fat ankles nowag

How did he get hired if he is seemingly too dumb to finish projects? Has he always been bad at work?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424878)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:38 PM
Author: rebellious hairy legs multi-billionaire

Do you feel any guilt you ruined this bros life?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424748)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:51 PM
Author: Pungent bronze church

School range? If legit TTT then don't feel bad, he shouldn't have gone to law school in the first place

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424825)