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China is the world's most powerful nation. US is sort of like the 1970s USSR now
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Date: July 9th, 2020 11:57 AM Author: out-of-control private investor We have a "relative" empire of influence. We have enough military might that people have to listen to us and we are able to project power.
But in terms of national confidence, strategy, image, finance, innovation and influence, we're pretty much fucking done here.
We're a third world holding pen with nukes. China has embraced the Calvin Coolidge "the business of China is business" combined with its authoritarianism and cunning chinkery in leveraging its huge market to gain power.
No one is looking to the US for leadership. At best, the US is a lumbering giant that a more normal basket of Westernized countries can use as an international police force to counter China in some ways, and that's about it. |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:03 PM Author: olive bossy kitty cat Hot take, Jewboi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40573738) |
Date: July 9th, 2020 12:08 PM Author: French Space I think we'll continue to lead with technology etc moving forward but quality of life will decline overall. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40573776) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:10 PM Author: out-of-control private investor We are going to be a marginally whiter Brazil.
Large enough that no one wants to necessarily poke it, but LJL at it truly leading/anyone fearing it.
China will lowkey run the world. They already do basically, I don't think people realize. China truly believes it is meant to own the world. After centuries of 'humiliation' the wind is at their back. |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:14 PM Author: Thriller Buff Bbw Unless brutal nationalism takes over. Still won’t be as good as China, but won’t devolve into a banana republic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40573818) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:16 PM Author: out-of-control private investor Won't work. America was an idea and no one seems to even care about it anymore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40573838) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:25 PM Author: French Space We should start planning for future balkanization.
Smart move is to gtfo now. |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:42 PM Author: out-of-control private investor What will happen first is the US cities will be abandoned, they will become no-go zones.
First thing is people will move to suburbs and rural areas. That's the beginning. |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:09 PM Author: vigorous ceo Hard to listen to anything you say after you excitedly claimed Hong Kong democracy would PWN China (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40573787) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:12 PM Author: out-of-control private investor Nothing matters anymore, 'democracy' and 'democratic' nations are just DINOs. Sadly, there are still a lot of true believers, like Hong Kongers, who are going to be let down. But it's not because China will machine gun them; it's because no one is going to stop China from machine gunning them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40573800) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:12 PM Author: frum nibblets (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40573801) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:15 PM Author: out-of-control private investor They'll cut their teeth on their neighbors to start. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40573830) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:15 PM Author: Thriller Buff Bbw They just showed the world how they can kill everyone if they let their more-dangerous genetically modified viruses out. COVID is a credible threat for what they can do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40573834) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:17 PM Author: out-of-control private investor They also ship fentanyl to the US every day by the metric ton, effectively completing a successful reverse Opium War and slaughtering hundreds of thousands of Americans without a single bullet. And they've profited greatly off this American genocide. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40573849) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:32 PM Author: spectacular mental disorder Fentanyl flows from Mexico (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40573975) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:33 PM Author: French Space Via Mexico from China (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40573983) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:43 PM Author: out-of-control private investor CR, cartel is happy to oblige. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40574057) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:46 PM Author: spectacular mental disorder Cartel managed to cut out Chinese suppliers before COVID. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40574084) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:16 PM Author: Carnelian heaven Military strength is a lagging indicator in the empire life cycle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40573841) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:19 PM Author: Poppy odious library mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40573861) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:44 PM Author: Blue Magical Travel Guidebook (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40574073) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:18 PM Author: stimulating becky China dumped 90 major blue water combatants in the water in the last 5 years. The US -- 24. Yeah, not militarily powerful.... China has 2x the manufacturing value out of the US. They mint missiles and warships at 3-4x the rate of the US and more importantly they increasingly share cross capabilities with Russia so for example the Russians will give China access to their much larger communications satellite network and the Chinese will share image sats with the Russians so the Chicoms save money by not launching 50 comm sats and the Russkies dont have to launch 50 imaging sats. Yankeestan created its own worst nightmare pushing those two together. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40573856) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:20 PM Author: Thriller Buff Bbw That relationship lasts for a year before Vlad realizes it’s suicide (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40573870) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:21 PM Author: stimulating becky He has no choice. Russia's market is too small to sustain tier one chip making. Russia's future is negotiating places for itself in Chinese supply chains. Suicide was trying to make a deal with Yankeestan. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40573884) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:43 PM Author: spectacular mental disorder You realize even right now there is a revolt being organized by the US and EU in Belarus, the closest client of Russia? Whatever faults there are in the relationship with China, just compare it to the steady decline and slow death of engaging the West. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40574059) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 10:52 PM Author: Thriller Buff Bbw the west lets its leaders keep their heads/money. Xi will straight up execute Vlad one day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40577667) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 11:11 PM Author: spectacular mental disorder Can't they see any reason why Russia and China end up fighting each other. US is declining, but it's not going away anywhere. Unless over the long term you think the US is just going to disappear from the world stage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40577760) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 11:28 PM Author: Thriller Buff Bbw Xi wants total control. There will be no loose ends by 2040, and clever/insane heads of state are loose as fuck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40577846) |
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Date: July 10th, 2020 12:19 AM Author: spectacular mental disorder So the US will disappear by 2040 and China will then go on to world domination? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40578042) |
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Date: July 10th, 2020 12:34 AM Author: Thriller Buff Bbw Lol. The US won’t make it half that long (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40578107) |
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Date: July 10th, 2020 12:37 AM Author: spectacular mental disorder OK Vlad will take this into account. Likely US will completely collapse in 2030 so should not partner with China. Should just patiently wait it out even as Russia loses every client to color revolution. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40578111) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 11:24 PM Author: Indigo stag film macaca We are doing a fantastic job at "fighting wars" since WWII. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40577831) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:26 PM Author: Wine Famous Landscape Painting Chinese Debt to GDP > 300% https://www.thestreet.com/mishtalk/economics/chinas-debt-to-gdp-ratio-hits-317-percent
Aging population, reduced demand for their products, trade war with the US
The US still has a fair # of cards to play.
Russia has the same GDP as Texas. They're not really a threat except for some geopolitical saber rattling and sniping at ancillary US interests
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/04/17/how-gdp-of-us-states-compares-to-countries-around-the-world/39295197/ |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:30 PM Author: spectacular mental disorder But what if you look at China and Russia as a single force internationally? China has the financial muscle and Russia has the military capabilities and know how to operate overseas. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40573956) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:35 PM Author: Wine Famous Landscape Painting Yeah they can be a force to be reckoned with but I dont think we're at the level the OP said (yet) wrt China being #1 and the US being some kind of hollow force
If manufacturing went back to the US from this we might take a hit on #s but that'd be healthier in the long run. China is probably looking to plunder us for another 10-20 years more before they really can deal with us economically - they have a lot of domestic issues as the debt shows before they are really that healthy |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:40 PM Author: spectacular mental disorder China is #2 economically. That's a separate point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40574041) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:46 PM Author: out-of-control private investor It's CHINARUSSIA
that is tcr
And their buddies around the globe include Iran, Venezuela, the usual suspects, and China is investing untold sums in hoovering up available resources in building up Africa. |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 12:48 PM Author: spectacular mental disorder The most important (disastrous) potential alignment is China-Russia-Iran. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40574096) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 10:47 PM Author: Misanthropic soul-stirring messiness water buffalo China is in for a hard crash eventually. They have a $40 trillion debt bomb ready to go off, massive corruption, and will look like a giant old-age home soon due to their one-child policy. Predictions of America's demise will seem as ridiculous worrying about the Japs in 1989 in the future.
The US still has a ton of advantages. |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 11:16 PM Author: Metal bespoke trailer park therapy Cohen benefits (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40577787) |
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Date: July 10th, 2020 12:43 AM Author: narrow-minded mind-boggling house I don't know about most powerful, we are still way ahead with military and technology, but it's only a matter of time until they are the world's top superpower. Will happen sometime in our lifetimes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40578130) |
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Date: July 10th, 2020 12:43 AM Author: Razzmatazz Outnumbered Karate lol how many times has this stupid jew fuck been wrong about literally everything now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580006&forum_id=2#40578132) |