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If anyone KNEW what LAWYERS do would they actually go to LS?

LJL at this shit profession. JFC, the irony of all the ppl b...
opaque stirring weed whacker stage
  06/17/15
seriously, TT, what else are they supposed to do? the us eco...
Razzle Plum Gas Station
  06/17/15
Yeah, but if they knew what they truly were getting into the...
opaque stirring weed whacker stage
  06/17/15
some people like advocacy, not flame. probably moreso in shi...
Razzle Plum Gas Station
  06/17/15
Protip: litigation is not really advocacy. It is maybe 20% t...
opaque stirring weed whacker stage
  06/17/15
yeah but i think you see the above-described scenario moreso...
Razzle Plum Gas Station
  06/17/15
most shitlawers are just manipulating the insane litigation ...
opaque stirring weed whacker stage
  06/17/15
they aren't mutually exclusive
Razzle Plum Gas Station
  06/17/15
Not really. 99% of shitlawyers just settle everything. But n...
fear-inspiring half-breed
  06/17/15
eh i'm thinking immigration lawyers, specifically.
Razzle Plum Gas Station
  06/17/15
this, but at least soem SHITLAWYERS care a bit and think shi...
opaque stirring weed whacker stage
  06/17/15
nah, its EASY mang
Bossy lilac wagecucks coldplay fan
  06/17/15
No one could enjoy doing junior/midlevel associate bitchwork...
flesh lay foreskin
  06/17/15
I think those things are actually SPS too, its just ppl who ...
opaque stirring weed whacker stage
  06/17/15
Depositions and trials get old fast.
Dull Insecure Giraffe
  06/17/15
You obviously don't love the smell of discovery in the morni...
Cerebral stead
  06/17/15
OMG i smell an "objection. compound" on the packag...
opaque stirring weed whacker stage
  06/17/15
In BIGLAW ppl thinkin depos are soooo fun!!! defending a dep...
opaque stirring weed whacker stage
  06/17/15
you act like that's a bad thing
Cowardly emerald background story
  06/17/15
Litigation isn't that bad. Weekend emails, unnecessary &q...
Dull Insecure Giraffe
  06/17/15
LOL no, litigation is the most frivilous process that exists...
opaque stirring weed whacker stage
  06/17/15
tranny work is the gentleman's profession. at least almost e...
fear-inspiring half-breed
  06/17/15
Nope. Law dramas are BigLaw's secret weapon.
Cerebral stead
  06/17/15
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Trip onyx casino boltzmann
  06/17/15
Agreed. The worst thing about this economy is that it wasn't...
fear-inspiring half-breed
  06/17/15
I think one big reason lawyers want to KILLSELF so much is t...
opaque stirring weed whacker stage
  06/17/15
Honestly I blame our shit court system more than anything. W...
fear-inspiring half-breed
  06/17/15
trials are too expensive and time consuming, u never cld hav...
opaque stirring weed whacker stage
  06/17/15
the reason trials are so expensive is because of insane prep...
fear-inspiring half-breed
  06/17/15
Yeah, but even if u heavily restricted discovery and just ha...
opaque stirring weed whacker stage
  06/17/15
im not suggesting all cases but if it was like a reasonable ...
fear-inspiring half-breed
  06/17/15
that is basically what happens in asbestos cases in CA cause...
opaque stirring weed whacker stage
  06/17/15
you kidding? see all the biglaw paralegals lining up to go ...
grizzly irradiated generalized bond dog poop
  06/17/15
BIGLAW is a fraud, no one in BIGLAW can actuall yunderstand ...
opaque stirring weed whacker stage
  06/17/15
most paralegals aren't exposed to how awful it is. they just...
fear-inspiring half-breed
  06/17/15
yea which is why actually ive found most BIGLAW paras dont g...
opaque stirring weed whacker stage
  06/17/15
Some people are willing to do or attempt anything for a shot...
Aqua wonderful boiling water
  06/17/15
but all work doesnt cost you 200k plus in loans and 3 years ...
opaque stirring weed whacker stage
  06/17/15
There are tons of cubicle jobs that pay 60-90k that are chil...
fear-inspiring half-breed
  06/17/15
Fair, but you're not gonna be able to pull Tinder sluts or a...
Aqua wonderful boiling water
  06/17/15
We're talking about salary here, not height man
fear-inspiring half-breed
  06/17/15
ok fine how can you *marry* a CGWBT on 60-90K?
Aqua wonderful boiling water
  06/17/15
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John William Coltrane
  07/02/24


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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:05 PM
Author: opaque stirring weed whacker stage

LJL at this shit profession. JFC, the irony of all the ppl burning out cause the BARFAIL, get NOJERB'd, get LATHAM'd at firms is that they never actually get to experience really practicing law. If they did, they would realize how truly SPS it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144110)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:05 PM
Author: Razzle Plum Gas Station

seriously, TT, what else are they supposed to do? the us economy is fucked, and wait until the tech sector in SF tanks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144117)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:08 PM
Author: opaque stirring weed whacker stage

Yeah, but if they knew what they truly were getting into the 50k cubicle SPS jerb actually looks better.

The irony is that they think its some GOOD jerb they would somewhat enjoy. That is unfathomable to me. I dont think anyone could truly enjoy litigation at least unless your just the most anal fucked up deprived person on Earth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144124)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:08 PM
Author: Razzle Plum Gas Station

some people like advocacy, not flame. probably moreso in shitlaw than in biglaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144131)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:15 PM
Author: opaque stirring weed whacker stage

Protip: litigation is not really advocacy. It is maybe 20% that, and the rest is procedure, evidence shit rules, deadlines, dealing with client bullshit... this insane idea that all lawyers are in court arguing their DRAMATIC position to the JURY at the BEHEST of their INJURED suffering client and then getting dat 10mm JURY VERDICT is LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144174)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:25 PM
Author: Razzle Plum Gas Station

yeah but i think you see the above-described scenario moreso in shitlaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144251)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:26 PM
Author: opaque stirring weed whacker stage

most shitlawers are just manipulating the insane litigation system to generate revenue, they care very little abt advocating for their fucking dumbass client

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144258)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:26 PM
Author: Razzle Plum Gas Station

they aren't mutually exclusive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144261)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:35 PM
Author: fear-inspiring half-breed

Not really. 99% of shitlawyers just settle everything. But not only do they just settle everything, they don't even make any sophisticated arguments. It's the worst of both worlds. Basically an administrative job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144312)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:37 PM
Author: Razzle Plum Gas Station

eh i'm thinking immigration lawyers, specifically.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144326)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:37 PM
Author: opaque stirring weed whacker stage

this, but at least soem SHITLAWYERS care a bit and think shit throiugh and actuall yunderstand the lit system enough to manipulate it, but year they basically are makin gmoney off how stupid the system is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144327)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 9:26 PM
Author: Bossy lilac wagecucks coldplay fan

nah, its EASY mang

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144731)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:12 PM
Author: flesh lay foreskin

No one could enjoy doing junior/midlevel associate bitchwork and endless discovery bitching, etc. But shit like taking depositions, writing briefs, arguing motions, strategizing about what theories to pursue / motions to file, and occasionally trying a case, can be legitimately enjoyable for at least some people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144160)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:15 PM
Author: opaque stirring weed whacker stage

I think those things are actually SPS too, its just ppl who never have done them glorify them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144180)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:30 PM
Author: Dull Insecure Giraffe

Depositions and trials get old fast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144279)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:32 PM
Author: Cerebral stead

You obviously don't love the smell of discovery in the morning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144289)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:33 PM
Author: opaque stirring weed whacker stage

OMG i smell an "objection. compound" on the packaging of my cereal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144294)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:32 PM
Author: opaque stirring weed whacker stage

In BIGLAW ppl thinkin depos are soooo fun!!! defending a depo wowwwww that is soooo cool!!!

literally wld fuking rather fuk a trannie than defend another depo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144290)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:57 PM
Author: Cowardly emerald background story

you act like that's a bad thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144488)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:30 PM
Author: Dull Insecure Giraffe

Litigation isn't that bad.

Weekend emails, unnecessary "emergencies," and shit like that are way worse than the actual work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144277)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:33 PM
Author: opaque stirring weed whacker stage

LOL no, litigation is the most frivilous process that exists in ANY area in the US.. the only thing that comes close is corporate or govt bureacracy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144299)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:47 PM
Author: fear-inspiring half-breed

tranny work is the gentleman's profession. at least almost everything being done exists for a reason. the opposing party is at least somewhat reasonable and not just doing shit to waste your fucking time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144401)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:28 PM
Author: Cerebral stead

Nope. Law dramas are BigLaw's secret weapon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144266)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:29 PM
Author: Trip onyx casino boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144275)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:33 PM
Author: fear-inspiring half-breed

Agreed. The worst thing about this economy is that it wasn't just a waste of 3 years. These guys waste 3 years, then another year just finding like part time shit work, if they are lucky, then like 3 yrs past law school before they even get "real" associate level work (again, if they are lucky), so it's like a 6-7 year path to have the knowledge necessary to know it's not what they want to do with their lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144298)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:34 PM
Author: opaque stirring weed whacker stage

I think one big reason lawyers want to KILLSELF so much is that they are ready and willing to be BRUTALLY raped by the legal profession as long as they learn how to actually practice law so they can have a self sustaining career, but what happens is they learn shit in LS, shit post bar, shit at first job, there is no formal training program at all, no one gives a fuk at you, LS just uses ur for ur tuition, firms just use u for a pyramic scheme 2 year bullshit assignment, ITS LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144307)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:37 PM
Author: fear-inspiring half-breed

Honestly I blame our shit court system more than anything. We need to hire more judges and push cases to trial. Get rid of these insane discovery rules. If cases were actually pushed to trial in a reasonable time a lot more lawyers would gain real skills. It shouldn't be some massive achievement just to have a single trial under your belt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144318)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:38 PM
Author: opaque stirring weed whacker stage

trials are too expensive and time consuming, u never cld have a system dependent on more cases goin to trial

u actually shld just make most cases Judge Judy style admin type hearings where everoyne just has their 15 min in Court and the judge decides, but i assume there are due process issues with this BS, faggot constitution

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144342)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:41 PM
Author: fear-inspiring half-breed

the reason trials are so expensive is because of insane prep work necessary to get there... for smaller cases (like sub $1 million) unlimited discovery/depos is just insane. Everyone knows they have the nuclear option and can just make the case prohibitively expense and force settlement. For simple cases you should just have to try that shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144367)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:42 PM
Author: opaque stirring weed whacker stage

Yeah, but even if u heavily restricted discovery and just had a short trial the defense costs wld still be too high to justify fighting most cases instead of settling

the only way to rectify this is to lower defense lawyer's billable hourly rates, which will never happen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144374)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:44 PM
Author: fear-inspiring half-breed

im not suggesting all cases but if it was like a reasonable 3-4 month timeframe to get to trial instead of 1.5-3 yrs or something nuts a lot more cases would get tried, and more importantly associates would get a lot more experience and quicker with the phases of each case, discovery cutoffs, etc. even if the cases do end up settling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144391)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:48 PM
Author: opaque stirring weed whacker stage

that is basically what happens in asbestos cases in CA cause they get super fast tracked because the plaintiff is usually dying, and the result is actually a SHITLAW mega industry developed around it in which the a few experiences lawyers hire SHITLAW fuks straight out of LS, teach them a few things and then force them to go to trial in every case and learn on the job, the result is usually the SHITLAWYERS learning how to practice WRONGFULLY and burning the fuck out within 12 months

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144411)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:39 PM
Author: grizzly irradiated generalized bond dog poop

you kidding? see all the biglaw paralegals lining up to go to law school after 2 years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144351)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:41 PM
Author: opaque stirring weed whacker stage

BIGLAW is a fraud, no one in BIGLAW can actuall yunderstand what law entails, esp paralegals, but they are INSANE for still going to LS knowing abt the billable system

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144368)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:43 PM
Author: fear-inspiring half-breed

most paralegals aren't exposed to how awful it is. they just know they work for "very important people" who seem to be making sophisticated decisions with important people listening to them while commanding a high hourly rate. they are also surrounded by all the trappings of legal success while not having to be exposed to the shitty side of it. the worst thing someone could do to learn about the profession is become a BIGLAW paralegal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144383)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:45 PM
Author: opaque stirring weed whacker stage

yea which is why actually ive found most BIGLAW paras dont go to LS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144392)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:49 PM
Author: Aqua wonderful boiling water

Some people are willing to do or attempt anything for a shot at six figs, even if they know it will likely make them miserable as fuck, or even if they know they only have a slim chance of getting that lawyer job that pays six figs.

Also, all work is pretty bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144423)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:53 PM
Author: opaque stirring weed whacker stage

but all work doesnt cost you 200k plus in loans and 3 years of no work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144459)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 8:59 PM
Author: fear-inspiring half-breed

There are tons of cubicle jobs that pay 60-90k that are chill as fuck and legit 9-5 work no weekend work. The only thing annoying is you have to sit there all day bored. That is "bad" but not "bad" in the way that law is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144507)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 9:00 PM
Author: Aqua wonderful boiling water

Fair, but you're not gonna be able to pull Tinder sluts or a CGWBT on 60-90K.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144524)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 9:03 PM
Author: fear-inspiring half-breed

We're talking about salary here, not height man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144539)



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Date: June 17th, 2015 9:07 PM
Author: Aqua wonderful boiling water

ok fine how can you *marry* a CGWBT on 60-90K?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#28144579)



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Date: July 2nd, 2024 1:02 AM
Author: John William Coltrane



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2911903&forum_id=2#47800649)