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pros/cons to just wait to get fired and then collect unemploymen
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:09 PM Author: excitant white state halford not doing too well at my current firm and having little to no luck finding other firm offers. what are the pros/cons to riding this out until i get fired and then start collecting unemployment while i do a concerted search? is that just stupid as shit?
edit - i make 100k now and would prob pull 300-400/week in unemployment. i have a wife. |
Date: July 12th, 2012 12:13 PM Author: contagious fishy locale place of business Beyond stupid. Even leaving money out of the equation, it's about a million times easier to find a job when you've already got one than when you're unemployed (at least in law). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068515) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:18 PM Author: excitant white state halford how the fuck do i find a job? i went to a decent non-t14 school and landed in a firm despite some pretty bad grades. but despite sending my resume to a few firms and recruiters, nothing has worked out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068535) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:21 PM Author: bespoke histrionic lay travel guidebook i would start hustling for a job NOW. not just a few firms/recruiters.
how are you not doing well? fixable? |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:24 PM Author: excitant white state halford yea its fixable. for some reason im totally unmotivated. if i were to bill 275+ hours this month, im sure they would put up with my past mistakes/missteps (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068576) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:28 PM Author: bespoke histrionic lay travel guidebook then bill 300 this month. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068598) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:30 PM Author: heady insane stag film this.
Some people on this board are so non-chalant when it comes to being unemployed. Newsflash: IT SUCKS OUT THERE |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:56 PM Author: provocative iridescent station tcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068740) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:50 PM Author: pungent vermilion meetinghouse yarmulke is this even possible for u? I know where I'm at it would probably be impossible to bill 275. just not enough work to go around (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068708) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:52 PM Author: excitant white state halford yea i could bill 500 this month. tons of work on my desk thats piling up. just a matter of actually buckling down and doing it. not as easy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068717) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:54 PM Author: pungent vermilion meetinghouse yarmulke lulz just drink a bunch of coffee and dive in bro. if u have work where u are I don't see the problem. for me I have to prolong each thing I get and pad like crazy just to hit 160ish hrs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068732) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:57 PM Author: provocative iridescent station Clear all your social plans and sit the fuck down and spend the next month clearing that pile. You'll hate it but not half as much as you'll hate being assfucked by ITE.
Or, if you're not really going to do this, then really start (keep?) doing jack shit and enjoy the ride. |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 3:17 PM Author: wild self-centered plaza partner Fuck I wish I had this problem. Not enough work at my firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21069618) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:25 PM Author: excitant white state halford tips on hustling for a job? im just looking on monster.com right now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068581) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:29 PM Author: bespoke histrionic lay travel guidebook i have no clue, but i know it's not sending out a few resumes.
get involved with an ABA section in your practice area and start meeting people. you probably have a few months. |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:28 PM Author: Razzle sex offender This is my situation too. You probably want to count your lucky stars and buckle down. If you can find another job while you have a job fine. Otherwise you need this job. Bad grades plus fired plus gap in employment and you're fucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068600) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:32 PM Author: excitant white state halford how do i eventually get to a job in another part of the country? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068624) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:32 PM Author: marvelous red menage Basically impossible for lawyers. The only people I know who did this were BIGLAW laterals or used nepotism. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068630) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:35 PM Author: excitant white state halford thats not a good answer for me. im NOT staying in this part of the country for the rest of my career (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068642) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:39 PM Author: Razzle sex offender Get your skills up and go solo. That is your only HOAP. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068662) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 1:48 PM Author: bespoke histrionic lay travel guidebook how hard is, say, NY to west coast? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21069036) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 3:18 PM Author: wild self-centered plaza partner CR x 100 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21069625) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:22 PM Author: marvelous red menage Horrible idea. I did this and I didn't find a job for almost 2 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068565) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:24 PM Author: excitant white state halford fuck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068569) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:30 PM Author: marvelous red menage and the "job" I did find was doc review.
I mean realistically and logically, think about it this way. You are currently gainfully EMPLOYED and having a hard time finding a job.
Now imagine if you were unemployed and looking. Nobody will even want to interview you. |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:32 PM Author: excitant white state halford lol no one wants to interview me right now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068628) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:33 PM Author: marvelous red menage Exactly. It's a shit world out there for lawyers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068634) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:33 PM Author: Laughsome mischievous property cushy unemployment benefits are going to be cut virtually immediately after the election no matter who wins. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068637) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:36 PM Author: marvelous red menage Dooder, let's try to get constructive.
Give me your stats, size of firm, what type of work you do, how long you've been working as an attorney, what region of country you are in, where you want to go, if you are willing to do non-legal work, etc. |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:41 PM Author: excitant white state halford (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068675) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:42 PM Author: marvelous red menage how were your law school grades and what year/ experience are you at (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068681) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:45 PM Author: excitant white state halford (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068690) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:49 PM Author: marvelous red menage Yea, Bar admissions will be tough. Few firms of that size want to hire laterals at your experience level that aren't already barred in their JDX. Why bother when there are tons of equally qualified applicants that are already barred.
I would do this:
(1) Look at going to another firm in your state, preferably one that has branch offices in a locale you are interested in. Hopefully transition into another office down the line.
(2) With your experience, look at large Securities Litigation type firms. Some of these firms have multiple offices around the country. So that could be an option. |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:55 PM Author: excitant white state halford good tips. thanks.
i think my first step should be to bill 300 this month - no matter what - and get back in the good graces of firm management. then i can take a more reasonable approach with the whole transferring jobs thing. |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:52 PM Author: pungent vermilion meetinghouse yarmulke If u want to move to another state just buckle down and take the bar in that state. its much easier when u are already barred. also they won't be skeptical of your desire to move (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068721) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 12:53 PM Author: excitant white state halford yea makes sense (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068723) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 1:11 PM Author: marvelous red menage Yea, you deleted it but I think CA was on your list.
It's a huge state with really 4 distinct "legal markets" - LA/OC, San Diego, Central California (I'm basically including from Sacramento down to Inland Empire), and SF Bay Area.
Lot of diverse practices and places to live, so I would probably see if you can take and pass the CA bar first. |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 1:12 PM Author: excitant white state halford my whole issue w/ taking a 2nd bar is that my current firm may get suspicious. why is this dooder who practices in st louis taking the damn cali bar? they would know b/c they would get those verification sheets, etc. as part of bar registration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068822) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 1:15 PM Author: marvelous red menage True, didn't think about that.
That's why Option 1 I presented above is probably the best, finding a firm you can latch on to that will let you transfer offices down the line.
Another thing is, it's been so long so I don't really remember - the whole verification and stuff, isn't that just for the moral application or whatever the f that was?
If you are just applying to take the Bar Exam and then take it, would they still be sending stuff to your firm? |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 1:26 PM Author: pungent vermilion meetinghouse yarmulke wait why would they get any verification sheet? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21068902) |
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Date: July 12th, 2012 8:00 PM Author: sticky vivacious den If you went to a non Top 14 school and had bad grades yet still currently have a 100k Job that is salvageable if you work harder and bill more and there is more than enough work for you to bill more than you absolutely have to do that.
The job you are in is well above what someone could reasonably expect ITE with your credentials and your telling me its salvageable.
Turning things around at work and holding on to your current position is a million times more credited than anything else you could possibly be doing right now ITE.
If you can find another equivalent job now fine, but I don't see the point in that. You're not complaining about an awful work environment, shit partners, unreasonable demands.
You're unhappy cause you have too much work that piles up cause your not motivated to do it. Changing firms won't help with that. You current situation is easily a 9 or 10 / 10 given your credentials in this current economy. I don't care how green you think the grass might be on the other side of the fence your top priority by far has to be trying to hold on to your current position right now. |
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Date: July 14th, 2012 4:02 PM Author: excitant white state halford . (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21085932) |
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Date: July 14th, 2012 4:30 PM Author: Massive Glassy Stead Shut the FUCK up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21086074) |
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Date: August 4th, 2012 8:13 PM Author: excitant white state halford UPDATE: billed 200 last month...most ive billed in a month in 5-6 months. will be aiming for 250-300 this month. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21260613) |
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Date: August 5th, 2012 4:16 PM Author: excitant white state halford . (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1992061&forum_id=2#21265479) |