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Halp Bros--Old Law Firm Stole My Couch
| Wine duck-like set partner | 10/04/12 |
| Red locale | 10/04/12 |
| Big stage immigrant | 10/04/12 |
| Learning Disabled Laser Beams Pistol | 10/05/12 |
| thirsty associate | 10/04/12 |
| hairraiser roommate boistinker | 10/04/12 |
| Trip locus | 10/04/12 |
| embarrassed to the bone stag film pozpig | 10/04/12 |
| floppy liquid oxygen station | 10/04/12 |
| Learning Disabled Laser Beams Pistol | 10/04/12 |
| brass den | 05/12/22 |
| Learning Disabled Laser Beams Pistol | 10/04/12 |
| Vibrant Party Of The First Part Corn Cake | 10/04/12 |
| Learning Disabled Laser Beams Pistol | 10/04/12 |
| snowy talented step-uncle's house | 10/04/12 |
| bronze dilemma hissy fit | 10/05/12 |
| Cerebral henna whorehouse dragon | 10/05/12 |
| Learning Disabled Laser Beams Pistol | 10/05/12 |
| bossy jap preventive strike | 10/05/12 |
| Learning Disabled Laser Beams Pistol | 10/05/12 |
| Lascivious claret foreskin | 10/05/12 |
| Sinister temple | 08/22/13 |
| Razzmatazz misunderstood property | 05/27/17 |
| Provocative toaster goal in life | 07/19/17 |
| multi-colored pearly faggotry | 10/05/12 |
| Learning Disabled Laser Beams Pistol | 10/05/12 |
| Learning Disabled Laser Beams Pistol | 11/28/12 |
| Walnut Bawdyhouse Gunner | 12/06/13 |
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| Trip locus | 05/27/17 |
| Wonderful National Security Agency Goyim | 05/12/22 |
| diverse stead | 10/04/12 |
| Learning Disabled Laser Beams Pistol | 10/04/12 |
| diverse stead | 10/04/12 |
| Learning Disabled Laser Beams Pistol | 10/04/12 |
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| Learning Disabled Laser Beams Pistol | 10/04/12 |
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| Harsh church building | 05/27/17 |
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| brass den | 08/28/21 |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 5:28 PM Author: Wine duck-like set partner I worked at a firm and recently left. When I first started with this firm, I purchased a couch to nap on between 2pm and 3pm each day, schedule permitting. I was packing up my office last weekend and brought a friend along to help move the couch out. The partner happened to be there and said "not so fast, that's my couch." I calmly explained I had purchased it and brought it in to the office to nap on. He called it an "abandoned fixture" and said under some county ordinance it belonged to him. Halp. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21716858) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 7:14 PM Author: Red locale take it and make him stop you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717732) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:50 PM Author: Big stage immigrant Lmao! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719984) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 11:10 AM Author: Learning Disabled Laser Beams Pistol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21722011) |
Date: October 4th, 2012 5:32 PM Author: thirsty associate what state? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21716895) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:23 PM Author: hairraiser roommate boistinker lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717373) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:30 PM Author: Trip locus lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717412) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:35 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone stag film pozpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717441) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:39 PM Author: floppy liquid oxygen station fuckin' steve (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717460) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:17 PM Author: Learning Disabled Laser Beams Pistol shitlaw steve (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719624) |
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Date: May 12th, 2022 4:18 PM Author: brass den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#44501339) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:46 PM Author: Learning Disabled Laser Beams Pistol If I recall correctly from my 1L property class, you may have a right to the furniture. The common law rule is that whatsoever is fixed to the realty is thereby made a part of the realty to which it adheres. However, the new, prevailing rule is that tenants may remove whatever they install for the purpose of carrying on a trade (i.e. trade fixtures), provided that they can be uninstalled without injury to the premises, and that such removal is effected before they yield possession of the premises. Arguably, the couch was a trade fixture--you put it in your office for the purpose of aiding you in carrying on your trade as a lawyer. Given that you can remove it without injury to the premises, and because you haven't completely yielded possession of the premises, I think you have a colorable claim that you have a right to that couch, notwithstanding any extant ordinances. The rationale behind this rule is that it is conducive to trade and commerce. The tenant installs things for the benefit of carrying on his trade, not to enhance the landlord's realty.
You should also be aware that there are other theories that may be applied to these circumstances, depending on what jurisdiction you're in. There is the institutional theory: additions to the realty become a part of an economic unit, and therefore become the landlord's property.
I sincerely xoxohth. Let me know if you have any questions or if I need to clarify or expand on anything.
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Date: October 4th, 2012 7:08 PM Author: Vibrant Party Of The First Part Corn Cake 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717675) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:07 PM Author: Learning Disabled Laser Beams Pistol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21718985) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:08 PM Author: snowy talented step-uncle's house Lol xoxo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21718995) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:11 AM Author: bronze dilemma hissy fit The firm is the tenant. Analysis irrelevant unless the shitlaw firm is some sort of coöp structured like a salon where you rent your own chair/office. HTH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21720779) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 4:26 AM Author: Cerebral henna whorehouse dragon Couches aren't fixtures of any type. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21720974) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 9:46 AM Author: Learning Disabled Laser Beams Pistol Ah, yes, well, because I'm a BIGLAW billy rather than a shitlaw steve, I would bring multiple claims if I was helping OP get his couch back. The aforesaid analysis is merely a possible argument if my other more cogent arguments fail. Look at it as a sort of quasi-landlord-tenant argument, perhaps. Surely, though, there is an argument to be made under the doctrine of finders. Let’s see what that analysis would look like, shall we? The rule of finders is that the finder of property has a right to that property against all the world except the true owner or prior possessor. In this case, OP is the true owner and prior possessor. Therefore, his boss does not have a right to that property. However, bossman is claiming that OP abandoned the couch. In order for one to abandon something, there must be an act of abandonment and intent to abandon. I’ll go ahead and concede that there was an act of abandonment; there is surely an argument that there was. However, OP never intended to abandon the property, as evidenced by his return to the premises in order to retrieve said property. Therefore, the property was not abandoned. Thus, again, OP has a colorable claim that he has a right to that couch.
Again, I sincerely xoxohth. Do let me know if I need to clarify or expand on anything.
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Date: October 5th, 2012 12:05 PM Author: bossy jap preventive strike This is so 180. Well done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21722470) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:06 PM Author: Learning Disabled Laser Beams Pistol tyty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21723397) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:17 PM Author: Lascivious claret foreskin 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21723458) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2013 11:20 PM Author: Sinister temple 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#23915695) |
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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:49 PM Author: Razzmatazz misunderstood property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409163) |
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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:11 PM Author: Provocative toaster goal in life Bigfinderskeeperslaw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33809764) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 7:07 AM Author: multi-colored pearly faggotry 180 if real, 180 if not real (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21721095) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:39 PM Author: Learning Disabled Laser Beams Pistol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21723576) |
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Date: November 28th, 2012 10:30 PM Author: Learning Disabled Laser Beams Pistol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#22130665) |
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Date: December 6th, 2013 9:34 AM Author: Walnut Bawdyhouse Gunner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#24579596) |
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Date: December 6th, 2013 2:24 PM Author: Onyx Stage Yarmulke 180 well done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#24581212) |
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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:50 PM Author: Trip locus Couches don't even get installed. The doctrine you're looking for here is manifestly mislaid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409172) |
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Date: May 12th, 2022 4:24 PM Author: Wonderful National Security Agency Goyim (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#44501373) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:09 PM Author: diverse stead Eh, I don't know about no couch but I'd probably be facing felony jail time if they added up all the office supplies I stole over the years.
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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:15 PM Author: Learning Disabled Laser Beams Pistol why do you steal from your employer bro? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719060) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:16 PM Author: diverse stead I just have a thing for paper clips and post-it notes. I think I'm kinda planning to build a yacht out of post-its. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719075) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:20 PM Author: Learning Disabled Laser Beams Pistol sweet good luck bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719119) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:20 PM Author: Provocative toaster goal in life thought for sure this would be johnsmeyer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719117) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:24 PM Author: Learning Disabled Laser Beams Pistol It's one of his alts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719163) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:19 PM Author: Charismatic corner kitty cat Flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719634) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:43 PM Author: Learning Disabled Laser Beams Pistol cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719909) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 9:18 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle principal's office half-breed You are flame or the partner is a fucking idiot. In no way is a couch a fixture. In no way have you abandoned it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21721248) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 12:08 PM Author: umber alcoholic ratface university Fuck yo couch!
Buy another one you rich motherfucker!
Darkness is! Darkness is! |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 6:42 PM Author: Learning Disabled Laser Beams Pistol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21725143) |
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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:59 PM Author: Harsh church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409210) |
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Date: December 6th, 2013 9:29 AM Author: Sinister temple (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#24579568) |
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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:50 PM Author: Trip locus Please sue. Best law suit ever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409168) |
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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:01 PM Author: Contagious Institution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33809690) |
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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:33 PM Author: slippery hell lol no not a fucking fixture. And even if it was ... ? your an employee (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33809893) |
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Date: August 28th, 2021 12:54 PM Author: brass den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#43023653) |