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Can I quit my journal 3L year?
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Date: March 6th, 2010 10:20 PM Author: vigorous glassy pistol Have BIGPRESTIGIOUSLAWFIRM job lined up. Was on journal 1L and 2L. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14317807) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 10:56 PM Author: misunderstood startled set is it lrev?
nothing else matters |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 10:57 PM Author: Irradiated Primrose Resort why quit? you dont have to do anything anyway in your 3L year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14318075) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 6:06 PM Author: Amber bearded queen of the night titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14324404) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 8:41 AM Author: Soggy Doobsian Fanboi Laser Beams I cam here to same the same thing -- there is considerably less work 3l year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14330626) |
Date: March 6th, 2010 10:55 PM Author: multi-colored electric furnace no, it will raise red flags, last thing you want to do ITE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14318062) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 10:57 PM Author: Underhanded bonkers community account how does one join lr as a 1L (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14318076) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:00 AM Author: sable range mediation second the question. though, i know at my ccn, there is a journal you can join as a 1L in the fall (just not law review, obvi). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14319014) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 3:53 PM Author: Avocado impressive gaping foreskin he just said journal. and yeah, we have a journal here too that you can join 1L (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14322893) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:42 AM Author: Opaque menage GET OFF MY JOURNAL U SLACKER BITCH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14319335) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 3:42 PM Author: vigorous glassy pistol my school lets you join journals your first year. it is not lr. thoughts? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14322803) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 3:44 PM Author: odious honey-headed box office could be good to get some BB practice, if you plan to go out for journal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14322813) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 3:54 PM Author: Avocado impressive gaping foreskin a lot of journals will contact your employer. you don't want this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14322907) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 4:01 PM Author: abnormal spectacular house genital piercing Wow. You guys must have vindictive peers. People come and go all the time at the journals here, and it doesn't bother anyone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14323007) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 5:41 PM Author: Amber bearded queen of the night yeah, people come and go all the time at secondary journals here at my school... it's usually not an issue and most of your peers won't care. It is, however, an issue if you ran for and got some executive board position that you'd be abandoning, or if you specifically gave a multi-year commitment when you were trying to get on, or if you especially milked the journal to get your job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14324217) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 7:49 PM Author: Cowardly brindle hospital uh defamation? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14325470) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 8:03 PM Author: Opaque menage You don't strike me as an expert on defamation law (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14325638) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 8:03 PM Author: Avocado impressive gaping foreskin they'd be telling the truth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14325643) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 9:19 PM Author: Hateful Laughsome Site Private Investor Not a per se defense in Massachusetts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14326596) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 11:13 PM Author: Avocado impressive gaping foreskin really?
this http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/massachusetts-defamation-law says that it has to be a false statement |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 5:14 PM Author: Hateful Laughsome Site Private Investor Really,
http://firemark.com/2009/02/16/alarming-defamation-ruling-truth-is-not-always-a-defense/ |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 3:59 PM Author: Brass sexy piazza rigpig this would be such a bitch thing to do. you were hired in part because of the experience of being on journal, and the journal has to be put together and published so that people can continue to reap these benefits. sticking other people with all the work is not the right thing to do when you have derived some benefit from the journal. don't be a dick. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14322980) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 5:34 PM Author: Amber bearded queen of the night there is some merit to this post, although it is perhaps a little over the top. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14324128) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 5:47 PM Author: galvanic school cafeteria becky What benefits? Outside LR, the only benefit is a resume line that no one cares about. Students not on LR would be served just as well if the journal never published (not as if employers would have any clue) and they never were required to do any work on it. It is not as if journal work is worthwhile anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14324276) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 6:07 PM Author: Amber bearded queen of the night you overstate your case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14324420) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 7:39 PM Author: Silver coiffed stage regret Only slightly. Secondary journals do not compete on prestige. They simply signal some base level of work ethic/competence. The most efficient secondary journal, from a student's perspective, would be one that publishes only frequently enough to avoid losing all credibility as a journal and only accepts articles that are exceptionally easy to cite check/edit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14325335) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 7:50 PM Author: galvanic school cafeteria becky Except that almost all employers have no idea if the journal publishes anyway, so its moot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14325482) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 8:08 PM Author: Silver coiffed stage regret Right, but presumably you want to joint a journal that is treated as such by your school. Needless to say, a journal that doesn't publish isn't going to get funded or appear on your school's website. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14325700) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 8:14 PM Author: Opaque menage People forget that there is more to preparing yourself for professional success than simply appearing as though you have marketable skills. It helps to actually develop them.
What happens when you start at your firm and now you're trying to distinguish yourself from the other dozen people who are starting with you? Hint: your resume won't help. Being a technically competent and efficient editor of legal writing sounds like a good start. As does experience working with teams of people around hard deadlines to produce a final written product.
There is more to journal work, even secondary journal work, than a resume line. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 9:20 PM Author: Hateful Laughsome Site Private Investor 132 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14326618) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 11:13 PM Author: galvanic school cafeteria becky lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14327996) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 6:18 PM Author: vigorous glassy pistol link to "you were hired in part because of the experience of being on journal"?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14324499) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 7:40 PM Author: Brass sexy piazza rigpig i guarantee that i would not have gotten my job if it weren't for journal. pretty much zero chance. i think it is universally acknowledged that employers value this, at least the flagship law review, as a resume line/experience. this is probably more true of litigators; not sure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14325345) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 7:51 PM Author: Cowardly brindle hospital "at least the flagship law review"
that little qualification completely defeats the purpose of your post. no one's debating that fact. the issue here is what value secondary journals add to the resume. the answer is little or none. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 8:01 PM Author: Brass sexy piazza rigpig op doesn't say whether it is law review or a secondary journal. in either case, it is a dick move to join an organization, taking a spot someone else could have taken, and then to quit, leaving others to do your work. also, why join if you don't think you are going to derive some benefit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14325607) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 10:55 PM Author: vigorous glassy pistol op here....
i say above that it is not LR
i did not take anyone's spot by joining. unlimited number of doods can join.
DOES THIS AFFECT YOUR ANALYSIS? |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 6:32 PM Author: supple circlehead Law review is a bizarre creature.
First, law students don't know shit about picking good articles from the field.
Second, as a sorting mechanism, it's redundant. Grades tell you just about everything you need to know. If you want a measure of writing ability, just make the writing class graded. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 7:24 PM Author: Amber bearded queen of the night It's only redundant as a sorting mechanism if you think it is a signal of intelligence. People can get good grades by being lucky, or by being smart but lazy. LR membership is generally useful as a signal of ambition/drive/motivation/work ethic as well as the ability to spend long hours doing tedious work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14325119) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 7:29 PM Author: Anal Cruise Ship Background Story LR membership might be, but secondary isn't. pro tip at joining a secondary: look at how many articles it publishes and make sure it has a lot of members.
i joined a secondary that publishes one, maybe two articles a year. we do jack shit. it's awesome. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 7:30 PM Author: supple circlehead "LR membership is generally useful as a signal of ambition/drive/motivation/work ethic as well as the ability to spend long hours doing tedious work."
Do you really believe that? |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 7:52 PM Author: galvanic school cafeteria becky It is delusion. If you grade onto LR, you don't luck into it. Very few ppl that actually grade onto LR, are super smart and dont study. Most are smart and work hard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14325503) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 8:24 PM Author: Amber bearded queen of the night I know many people who could have gotten onto LR, but are not for many reasons. I can understand employers wanting to filter based on those reasons.
I also think that people actually on LR will, by the time they graduate, have more experience coping with extra burdens and tedious work than they otherwise would have. And that's also something employers may want to use as a filter. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 8:07 PM Author: Opaque menage This is not a hard question. Did you ever promise the journal you would stay on your 3L year? Did you ever tell your employer or strongly imply that you would stay on your 3L year?
Yes = keep your word
No = quit if you don't want to be on the journal any more. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 11:13 PM Author: galvanic school cafeteria becky Efficient breach baby (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14328002) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 11:24 PM Author: Opaque menage Good luck with that in the real world (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14328099) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:30 AM Author: excitant dog poop Here is your answer:
Go to a law firm you'd like to work at and check the profiles of associates and young partners. See what % has only "member of ___ LR" and what % has "____ editor of ____ LR." I'd bet you'll find a lot more of the former than the latter. |