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Law clerk did shitty work - let it go or report it up the chain?

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floppy temple prole
  04/24/13
i'd say chew him out pretty good but don't rat him out unles...
french razzmatazz market
  04/24/13
Why don't you just bitch him out and make him redo it?
maniacal private investor national security agency
  04/24/13
just sit down with him and run through all the problems with...
Seedy hall
  04/24/13
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floppy temple prole
  04/24/13
Very important. What was the fuck up? If it was something...
obsidian misanthropic orchestra pit halford
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floppy temple prole
  04/24/13
lol as if he cares what johnsmeyer thinks
Disgusting violent plaza doctorate
  04/24/13
180
obsidian misanthropic orchestra pit halford
  04/24/13
is he coming on after graduation?
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floppy temple prole
  04/24/13
"....he should be thankful he has this opportunity.&quo...
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floppy temple prole
  04/24/13
How much does he get paid? How large is the firm?
maniacal private investor national security agency
  04/24/13
only credited question in the entire thread
Aqua indian lodge
  06/18/13
I'd say chew his ass out, but do what you can to cover for h...
Brindle idiot rehab
  04/24/13
this
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  04/24/13
titcr
aromatic sticky nibblets goal in life
  04/24/13
180, especially this part: "Make sure he knows that ...
Fishy brethren senate
  04/25/13
i.e., pulling a Pete Campbell?
Bistre Comical Cuckoldry Coldplay Fan
  06/18/13
are you female? just deal with this between the two of you. ...
Twinkling disrespectful resort toaster
  04/24/13
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floppy temple prole
  04/24/13
If he fucks up again though, you know what to do ---> shi...
Fear-inspiring cruise ship sandwich
  04/24/13
How much does he get paid? Biglaw? Is this one of those ip e...
Provocative mustard stead
  04/24/13
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floppy temple prole
  04/24/13
If he gets paid a shit ton then there is no excuse. If it i...
Indigo Heady Hospital Dragon
  04/24/13
protip most people -- especially perfectionist law dorks -- ...
Twinkling disrespectful resort toaster
  04/25/13
I don't believe that you're a professional employment consul...
Provocative mustard stead
  04/25/13
if it's a small office, dont cover for him. you dont want to...
Jet-lagged pale goyim
  04/24/13
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floppy temple prole
  06/18/13
Did he have a good reputation before this? It's hard to ...
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floppy temple prole
  06/18/13
what type of firm are you at? no doobs but it's kind of ...
Aqua indian lodge
  06/18/13
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floppy temple prole
  06/18/13
gotcha. so this is like non-shitlaw type stuff?
Aqua indian lodge
  06/18/13
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floppy temple prole
  06/18/13
so this bro just cost himself huge since he went from potent...
Aqua indian lodge
  06/18/13
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floppy temple prole
  06/18/13
How times have changed. Back in the old days even Cravath wo...
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  06/18/13
if you already knew everything he needed to do and gave him ...
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floppy temple prole
  06/18/13
the way you described it made it seem like you told him exac...
massive area stock car
  06/18/13
How did he get hired if he is seemingly too dumb to finish p...
Trip bipolar menage selfie
  06/18/13
Do you feel any guilt you ruined this bros life?
mewling sienna school community account
  06/18/13
School range? If legit TTT then don't feel bad, he shouldn'...
Frisky flesh pervert
  06/18/13


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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:08 PM
Author: floppy temple prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068369)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:09 PM
Author: french razzmatazz market

i'd say chew him out pretty good but don't rat him out unless he fucks up again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068377)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:09 PM
Author: maniacal private investor national security agency

Why don't you just bitch him out and make him redo it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068379)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:10 PM
Author: Seedy hall

just sit down with him and run through all the problems with it. you probably should have checked in with him sooner to see how he was progressing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068387)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:11 PM
Author: floppy temple prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068400)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:14 PM
Author: obsidian misanthropic orchestra pit halford

Very important. What was the fuck up?

If it was something like a SJ motion, he has no excuses. Even if the arguments are off, it should be relatively straightforward.

But if it's something obscure where 5 people in the history of the earth ever did, and he messed up, cut him some slack.

Example, once a dude asked me to draft some NY REAL PROPERTY MOTION Discharging a mortgage. There were no samples, he had no idea how to do it, and the clerk of the court was like "LOL". I had no idea what law it was based on.

I ended up doing it based on reading the CPLR and the NY Real Property Law and it took THREE filings for the judge to actually accept it.

Client was pissed it took so long but MY BAD BRO I HAD NO IDEA HOW TO DO IT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068412)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:16 PM
Author: floppy temple prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068428)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:17 PM
Author: Disgusting violent plaza doctorate

lol as if he cares what johnsmeyer thinks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068432)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:21 PM
Author: obsidian misanthropic orchestra pit halford

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068472)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:09 PM
Author: mind-boggling whorehouse

is he coming on after graduation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068378)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:10 PM
Author: floppy temple prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068390)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:11 PM
Author: house-broken naked crotch church building

"....he should be thankful he has this opportunity."

You sound like a fucking boomer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068395)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:13 PM
Author: Twinkling disrespectful resort toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068407)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:13 PM
Author: floppy temple prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068408)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:21 PM
Author: maniacal private investor national security agency

How much does he get paid? How large is the firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068467)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:12 PM
Author: Aqua indian lodge

only credited question in the entire thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424545)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:14 PM
Author: Brindle idiot rehab

I'd say chew his ass out, but do what you can to cover for him. Make sure he knows that he is your bitch now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068414)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:19 PM
Author: sepia shaky athletic conference

this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068445)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 6:23 PM
Author: aromatic sticky nibblets goal in life

titcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068870)



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Date: April 25th, 2013 11:53 AM
Author: Fishy brethren senate

180, especially this part:

"Make sure he knows that he is your bitch now"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074226)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:28 PM
Author: Bistre Comical Cuckoldry Coldplay Fan

i.e., pulling a Pete Campbell?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424678)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:15 PM
Author: Twinkling disrespectful resort toaster

are you female? just deal with this between the two of you. i would say patiently go through it with him and make it obvious how much it sucks but without directly saying it sucks.

the best policy is to shame him in a way that makes him feel he let you down but without him feeling resentment toward you. so don't be a dick to him about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068419)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:18 PM
Author: floppy temple prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068437)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:20 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring cruise ship sandwich

If he fucks up again though, you know what to do ---> shitcan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068455)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:20 PM
Author: Provocative mustard stead

How much does he get paid? Biglaw? Is this one of those ip externship deals?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068457)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:23 PM
Author: floppy temple prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068487)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 6:19 PM
Author: Indigo Heady Hospital Dragon

If he gets paid a shit ton then there is no excuse. If it is $12 an hour and is drafting Motions or briefs or has some esoteric research assignment then maybe not. As you shoudld have been more on top of it. This doesn't sound like is the case though.

Sidenote: When I was a clerk, I was getting $10-15. One time, a Partner wrote "shit" on one of the briefs I drafted for him. The only real reason he told me he wrote it was because I didn't repetitively include a common phrase/piece of jargon that he had wrote in the margins a few times. I will never forget that day.

I probably would have little pity for a highly paid kid who just does shit work on petty shit.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068850)



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Date: April 25th, 2013 12:06 PM
Author: Twinkling disrespectful resort toaster

protip most people -- especially perfectionist law dorks -- will do their best whether making $15 per hour or $50 per hour. and some people may actually perform WORSE making more because they feel too stressed to be perfect given their high pay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074285)



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Date: April 25th, 2013 12:14 PM
Author: Provocative mustard stead

I don't believe that you're a professional employment consultant and that was REMINDER at best.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074327)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 6:22 PM
Author: Jet-lagged pale goyim

if it's a small office, dont cover for him. you dont want to have to work with a bitchass like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068867)



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Date: April 25th, 2013 11:54 AM
Author: Well-lubricated motley sex offender pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074231)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:07 PM
Author: floppy temple prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424518)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:13 PM
Author: Contagious ivory space bbw

Did he have a good reputation before this?

It's hard to imagine someone doing that unless they don't care / don't respect you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424546)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:14 PM
Author: floppy temple prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424556)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:13 PM
Author: Aqua indian lodge

what type of firm are you at?

no doobs but it's kind of hard to get a handle on all this b/c i've never heard of a firm with a 3L clerk or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424550)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:15 PM
Author: floppy temple prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424564)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:16 PM
Author: Aqua indian lodge

gotcha. so this is like non-shitlaw type stuff?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424572)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:16 PM
Author: floppy temple prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424575)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:17 PM
Author: Aqua indian lodge

so this bro just cost himself huge since he went from potential midlaw type salary to NEVERWILLBEJERB

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424583)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:19 PM
Author: floppy temple prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424599)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:17 PM
Author: Zombie-like twinkling uncleanness weed whacker

How times have changed. Back in the old days even Cravath would ask summers to stay on as 3L law clerks who work part time. 'twas a simpler time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424581)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:19 PM
Author: massive area stock car

if you already knew everything he needed to do and gave him from Friday until Sunday to do it, why did it then take you so long to do it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424594)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:21 PM
Author: floppy temple prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424614)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:24 PM
Author: massive area stock car

the way you described it made it seem like you told him exactly what needed to be done to fix stuff, not that he was rewriting/researching stuff from scratch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424637)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:57 PM
Author: Trip bipolar menage selfie

How did he get hired if he is seemingly too dumb to finish projects? Has he always been bad at work?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424878)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:38 PM
Author: mewling sienna school community account

Do you feel any guilt you ruined this bros life?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424748)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:51 PM
Author: Frisky flesh pervert

School range? If legit TTT then don't feel bad, he shouldn't have gone to law school in the first place

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424825)