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Just got offer to be park ranger in Arches Natl Park ($45,000)...

UsaJobs Would be huge pay cut, likely won't do it
Autistic Vivacious Space Rigor
  11/07/19
that's the best you can ever do so you should go for it, if ...
Lemon Sound Barrier
  11/07/19
Are you saying it's a win for society if I take the job (I a...
Autistic Vivacious Space Rigor
  11/07/19
the latter obviously
Lemon Sound Barrier
  11/07/19
It wasn't obvious the way you phrased it. I thought you were...
Autistic Vivacious Space Rigor
  11/07/19
Why did you apply if you’re looking for a corporate sa...
Dun 180 boistinker
  11/07/19
Figured I could negotiate but apparently there is no negotia...
Autistic Vivacious Space Rigor
  11/07/19
What were you looking for financially?
Dun 180 boistinker
  11/07/19
$70-80k which I think would be completely reasonable
Autistic Vivacious Space Rigor
  11/07/19
For standing around in a National Park? What kind of experti...
Dun 180 boistinker
  11/07/19
Standing around? Hardly. Only when you are on visitor duty a...
Autistic Vivacious Space Rigor
  11/07/19
What's average day like ? Hike trails, help with rescues, e...
floppy stubborn set
  11/07/19
Get exasperated at the swarms of Chinese tourists ruining th...
at-the-ready dragon
  11/07/19
Is this interpretive ranger or LE role ?
floppy stubborn set
  11/07/19
you can probably throw these chinks down a gorge and no one ...
Multi-colored quadroon
  11/07/19
https://www.cnn.com/2014/01/31/us/utah-boulder-boy-scouts/in...
hyperventilating pisswyrm
  11/07/19
And of course you to worry about the bears stealing your pic...
Dun 180 boistinker
  11/07/19
lol 180
floppy stubborn set
  11/07/19
$45k in Moab, Utah is the equivalent of that wherever you ar...
Bronze violent native fortuitous meteor
  11/07/19
what makes you qualified for this job?
Talented potus
  11/07/19
They actually were impressed with my story about how I am a ...
Autistic Vivacious Space Rigor
  11/07/19
Lol, dat not how usajobs works
underhanded locus
  11/07/19
No shit. I had 3 interviews.
Autistic Vivacious Space Rigor
  11/07/19
Zhe's burying the lede. Zhe's also a black transwomyn of siz...
Pearly school
  11/07/19
πŸ’ƒπŸΏπŸ’ƒπŸΏπŸ’ƒπŸΏ
underhanded locus
  11/07/19
...
rebellious geriatric whorehouse striped hyena
  11/07/19
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thirsty menage roommate
  11/07/19
Weird flame
underhanded locus
  11/07/19
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salmon ceo stage
  11/07/19
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mewling yapping institution bbw
  11/07/19
You could easily make up the difference carrying a metal det...
Jade slimy keepsake machete
  11/07/19
You need to get a gs13 lolyer job first and transfer. They&r...
racy vermilion friendly grandma
  11/07/19
What GS level? It’s law enforcement, you’d have ...
cream well-lubricated gas station stock car
  11/07/19
Moab is 18000 and cheap; you should take it
bearded chapel
  11/07/19
This is literally a 180 job that almost never opens.
charismatic twinkling field
  11/07/19
Yep. He’s a retard if not flame
Dun 180 boistinker
  11/09/19
you're flaming but I would take this in a heartbeat. a HEART...
Beady-eyed center alpha
  11/07/19
Lol flame they wouldn't give an interview to an ex lawyer wi...
Narrow-minded glittery fat ankles
  11/07/19
Not flame when I was a 3L I scored a phone interview with Yo...
Nofapping Marvelous Stag Film Private Investor
  11/07/19
And how was the job in DC? What are you doing now?
Pearly school
  11/07/19
GS11 wouldn’t be that low. When I got US Marshall out ...
cream well-lubricated gas station stock car
  11/07/19
I'll address the other questions ITT when I'm home from work...
Autistic Vivacious Space Rigor
  11/07/19
Rate me as a poster.
internet-worthy diverse lodge regret
  11/07/19
this is like every miserable lawyer's dream job. too bad th...
Bisexual tantric piazza
  11/07/19
lol boston common
Galvanic cruel-hearted station
  11/08/19
...
Bisexual tantric piazza
  11/08/19
Arches national park is AWESOME
Cowardly black mood candlestick maker
  11/07/19
COL in Mob is VERY LOW tons of recreation Opportunitied
Cowardly black mood candlestick maker
  11/07/19
180
Gold electric scourge upon the earth
  11/08/19
If the pay jumped up a bit in the first few years, this woul...
Lascivious trump supporter temple
  11/08/19
How old are you? If was 30 or under, I would take this in a ...
Gold electric scourge upon the earth
  11/08/19
im 46
Talented potus
  11/08/19
No you aren't.
Lascivious trump supporter temple
  11/08/19
his back is 46
flushed stead
  11/09/19


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Date: November 7th, 2019 3:41 PM
Author: Autistic Vivacious Space Rigor

UsaJobs

Would be huge pay cut, likely won't do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086022)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 3:42 PM
Author: Lemon Sound Barrier

that's the best you can ever do so you should go for it, if you fall down a cliff it will end your agony altogether so it's a win win for both you and society.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086031)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 3:45 PM
Author: Autistic Vivacious Space Rigor

Are you saying it's a win for society if I take the job (I agree) or that it's a win for society if I fall down a cliff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086059)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 6:01 PM
Author: Lemon Sound Barrier

the latter obviously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086647)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 7:25 PM
Author: Autistic Vivacious Space Rigor

It wasn't obvious the way you phrased it. I thought you were saying that it would be good for society if I became a park ranger.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086957)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 3:43 PM
Author: Dun 180 boistinker

Why did you apply if you’re looking for a corporate salary. ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086041)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 3:44 PM
Author: Autistic Vivacious Space Rigor

Figured I could negotiate but apparently there is no negotiation at all for fed gov jobs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086052)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 3:45 PM
Author: Dun 180 boistinker

What were you looking for financially?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086058)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 3:46 PM
Author: Autistic Vivacious Space Rigor

$70-80k which I think would be completely reasonable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086068)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 3:48 PM
Author: Dun 180 boistinker

For standing around in a National Park? What kind of expertise do you need? $45k sounds about right imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086082)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 3:51 PM
Author: Autistic Vivacious Space Rigor

Standing around? Hardly. Only when you are on visitor duty as first contact are you standing around and that's not most of the day, and you aren't really standing around then either bc you are assigned a route (in the larger NPs anyway)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086101)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 3:52 PM
Author: floppy stubborn set

What's average day like ? Hike trails, help with rescues, etc?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086109)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 4:58 PM
Author: at-the-ready dragon

Get exasperated at the swarms of Chinese tourists ruining the park by leaving their filth everywhere and irreparably harming nature

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086392)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 5:02 PM
Author: floppy stubborn set

Is this interpretive ranger or LE role ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086403)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 5:18 PM
Author: Multi-colored quadroon

you can probably throw these chinks down a gorge and no one will notice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086476)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 6:56 PM
Author: hyperventilating pisswyrm

https://www.cnn.com/2014/01/31/us/utah-boulder-boy-scouts/index.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086856)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 7:47 PM
Author: Dun 180 boistinker

And of course you to worry about the bears stealing your picnic basket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39087033)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 3:49 PM
Author: floppy stubborn set

lol 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086086)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 3:50 PM
Author: Bronze violent native fortuitous meteor

$45k in Moab, Utah is the equivalent of that wherever you are now, probably.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086096)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 3:44 PM
Author: Talented potus

what makes you qualified for this job?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086048)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 3:49 PM
Author: Autistic Vivacious Space Rigor

They actually were impressed with my story about how I am a corporate lawyer wanting a huge change and would be willing to move States and that I had a lot of managerial experience that I could apply to being a ranger--there is actually a lot of bureaucracy & management stuff rangers have to do now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086088)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 3:51 PM
Author: underhanded locus

Lol, dat not how usajobs works

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086103)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 3:53 PM
Author: Autistic Vivacious Space Rigor

No shit. I had 3 interviews.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086114)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 5:12 PM
Author: Pearly school

Zhe's burying the lede. Zhe's also a black transwomyn of size and a 90% disabled combat veteran.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086438)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 6:58 PM
Author: underhanded locus

πŸ’ƒπŸΏπŸ’ƒπŸΏπŸ’ƒπŸΏ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086860)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 4:47 PM
Author: rebellious geriatric whorehouse striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086346)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 3:44 PM
Author: thirsty menage roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086053)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 3:52 PM
Author: underhanded locus

Weird flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086105)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 5:14 PM
Author: salmon ceo stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086453)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 7:01 PM
Author: mewling yapping institution bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086871)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 3:57 PM
Author: Jade slimy keepsake machete

You could easily make up the difference carrying a metal detector around the park finding valuables in your off hours.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086125)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 4:05 PM
Author: racy vermilion friendly grandma

You need to get a gs13 lolyer job first and transfer. They’ll try to demote you, but you’ll win in the mspb appeal process (might take a few years tho).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086173)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 4:05 PM
Author: cream well-lubricated gas station stock car

What GS level? It’s law enforcement, you’d have lateral options.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086175)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 4:42 PM
Author: bearded chapel

Moab is 18000 and cheap; you should take it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086331)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 4:45 PM
Author: charismatic twinkling field

This is literally a 180 job that almost never opens.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086338)



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Date: November 9th, 2019 12:03 PM
Author: Dun 180 boistinker

Yep. He’s a retard if not flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39093687)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 4:47 PM
Author: Beady-eyed center alpha

you're flaming but I would take this in a heartbeat. a HEARTBEAT

you can always come crawling back to "law" if you want to make money in a few years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086343)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 4:48 PM
Author: Narrow-minded glittery fat ankles

Lol flame they wouldn't give an interview to an ex lawyer with no outdoor/naturalist experience

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086347)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 5:09 PM
Author: Nofapping Marvelous Stag Film Private Investor

Not flame when I was a 3L I scored a phone interview with Yosemite National Park to be a contracting officer. I would work in the park itself and do contracts with park suppliers. Would have paid GS-11 so yeah roughly $45k, with promotion to GS-13 after 6 months.

They were really excited about me but I turned them down for a job in DC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086427)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 5:13 PM
Author: Pearly school

And how was the job in DC? What are you doing now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086445)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 6:15 PM
Author: cream well-lubricated gas station stock car

GS11 wouldn’t be that low. When I got US Marshall out of college it was GS6 I think, in low COL state, was mid 30k in the late 90’s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086711)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 5:41 PM
Author: Autistic Vivacious Space Rigor

I'll address the other questions ITT when I'm home from work but I had some nature certificates that made me a passable candidate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086576)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 7:03 PM
Author: internet-worthy diverse lodge regret

Rate me as a poster.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39086878)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 7:37 PM
Author: Bisexual tantric piazza

this is like every miserable lawyer's dream job. too bad this is flame. xo lawyer would get stuck at some national park historic site in an urban area.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39087005)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 5:17 AM
Author: Galvanic cruel-hearted station

lol boston common

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39088536)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:50 AM
Author: Bisexual tantric piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39089526)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 8:41 PM
Author: Cowardly black mood candlestick maker

Arches national park is AWESOME

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39087286)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 8:43 PM
Author: Cowardly black mood candlestick maker

COL in Mob is VERY LOW

tons of recreation Opportunitied

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39087302)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 5:30 AM
Author: Gold electric scourge upon the earth

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39088542)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 5:44 AM
Author: Lascivious trump supporter temple

If the pay jumped up a bit in the first few years, this would be an easy call.

Also assuming PSLF.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39088554)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 5:50 AM
Author: Gold electric scourge upon the earth

How old are you? If was 30 or under, I would take this in a hearbeat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39088559)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:16 PM
Author: Talented potus

im 46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39092153)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:18 PM
Author: Lascivious trump supporter temple

No you aren't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39092159)



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Date: November 9th, 2019 12:05 PM
Author: flushed stead

his back is 46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378002&forum_id=2#39093693)