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SUMMON: ecological genetics pumo
| ruddy multi-colored elastic band | 05/09/12 |
| Indecent Depressive Point | 05/09/12 |
| ruddy multi-colored elastic band | 05/09/12 |
| Concupiscible Territorial Mexican | 05/10/12 |
| buff school faggotry | 05/09/12 |
| ruddy multi-colored elastic band | 05/10/12 |
| Concupiscible Territorial Mexican | 05/10/12 |
| ruddy multi-colored elastic band | 05/10/12 |
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Date: May 9th, 2012 9:08 PM Author: ruddy multi-colored elastic band what are you doing here, who are you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1944754&forum_id=2#20657047) |
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Date: May 9th, 2012 9:12 PM Author: Indecent Depressive Point he doesnt actually do ecological genetics. he, being a poli sci master man obsessed with IQ and general knowledge, was commenting that eeb is one of "the easiest of STEM" to absorb. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1944754&forum_id=2#20657081) |
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Date: May 9th, 2012 9:27 PM Author: ruddy multi-colored elastic band yeah, that is true most people still know fuckall regardless |
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Date: May 10th, 2012 6:17 PM Author: Concupiscible Territorial Mexican here's a link to my uni and cv (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1944754&forum_id=2#20663094) |
Date: May 9th, 2012 10:18 PM Author: buff school faggotry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1944754&forum_id=2#20657565) |
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Date: May 10th, 2012 2:28 PM Author: ruddy multi-colored elastic band rather than bump that gw thread where your response is deep in a subthread let's continue it here you said: my experience is more with state agencies so i dunno much about the fed exp. state stuff can be cr as shit if u don't mind the pay - slack work out at a state park all day or w/e. just dunno what the hiring environment is like, if it's gonna reward spending 3+ of this dude's best years weighing fish testicles etc...
no question it's better than gunning for an academic track. no idea what motivates ppl to pursue that except that it's maybe all they know. or misguided ideas about status.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1944193&forum_id=2#20657662)
I think you're right. For me, and what I assume for everyone else, is that being a professor is the pinnacle of intellectual society. Students look up to you, you're passing information to the next generation of brilliant people, etc. But this is really only the case if you land an RO1 tenure spot, which is a huge crapshoot, and only slightly less of a crapshoot if you managed to get at a top 5 program. But odds are you'll be at some lesser-ranked school teaching 110 IQ rich spoiled retards who play on their iphones the whole class. And of course you're constantly gunning for grants. (I've been told by my PI that I'm an excellent writer wrt grants, though, so maybe it wouldn't be so bad?) But yeah, I don't want to gun anymore. I just want to be a mediocre worker who is still redeemed for his expertise in the natural world. US Gov work, or state work, is tcr--if you can find it. |
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Date: May 10th, 2012 6:16 PM Author: Concupiscible Territorial Mexican hey man, i'm the original pumo. agreed on all points. i never really had much awe for academics, even less so after more time spent in their sausage factory. even the ones who are 'winning' still seem to have pretty mediocre lives. the amount of work is insane and the rewards are very small unless you're placing very heavy weight on the status factor.
also the vast majority of what they produce is just shelving material that might get chosen once for a reading group so people who resent you can go around and find something about your stats/methodology to trash so that they look smart in front of the group.
i find the specific kind of hustling academics have to do to be undignified and i don't like the way they all end up passive aggressively hating each other. not that you escape that shit anywhere, but it just seems to dominate their professional lives.
i'd definitely go with a gov job man if your field is ecology (or anything else where the options are pretty much academic vs gov). |
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Date: May 10th, 2012 10:41 PM Author: ruddy multi-colored elastic band Yeah, academy vs gov is about all I've got for options.
"the vast majority of what they produce is just shelving material that might get chosen once for a reading group so people who resent you can go around and find something about your stats/methodology to trash so that they look smart in front of the group." is so fucking credited. I agree, the hustling is undignified, and I've started to become disenchanted with the idea of knowledge for the sake of knowledge. So many papers are published that are thoroughly read by so few people. I've become much more enthused by the idea of doing science that aids conservation and/or is immediately relevant to the US. (Obviously a lot of people are forced to pick obscure pet taxa or pet locales overseas to find a niche, even if the taxa/locales are mostly irrelevant to ecosystem processes or conservation, etc.) |