Shitlib physicists better grease cheeks. Heliosphere measurements are cumming
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Date: September 5th, 2023 7:34 PM Author: Effete dysfunction senate
Here's the latest:
https://www.space.com/heliopause-unusual-ripples-voyager
But here's where it's going: it's round. They can act like maybe it's oblong, but it's gonna be round. The math checks out. It passes every test to date. The reason no one wants to say it is because of this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cosmic_microwave_background_experiments
Billions and billions spent measuring "background radiation" was actually spent measuring a ball of plasma surrounding the sun. We got PUNKED. We didn't even know this plasma was there. Ask yourself this: now that we know the plasma is there, why the fuck would you think we would be able to detect faint traces of background radiation through it?
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Date: September 5th, 2023 7:36 PM Author: Effete dysfunction senate
ljl@ having to go back and look at what this satellite measured all over again from scratch.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_(spacecraft)
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Date: September 5th, 2023 7:39 PM Author: Effete dysfunction senate
This beaut is called APEX
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atacama_Pathfinder_Experiment
Using telescopes like these, over a period about about 30 years, we came up with models of the early universe that got BTFO by the first pic we took with the James Webb Space telescope
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Date: September 5th, 2023 7:47 PM Author: Effete dysfunction senate
QUIET was the result of an international collaboration that had its origins in the CAPMAP, Cosmic Background Imager (CBI) and QUaD collaborations. The collaboration consisted of 7 groups in the United States (the California Institute of Technology, the University of Chicago, Columbia University, the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, the University of Miami, Princeton University and Stanford University), 4 groups in Europe (the University of Manchester, the Max-Planck-Institut für Radioastronomie Bonn, the University of Oslo and the University of Oxford) and one group in Japan (KEK; the first time a Japan group has been involved in CMB studies). Other members of the collaboration are from the University of California, Berkeley, the Goddard Space Flight Center and the Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian.[1]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/QUIET
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Date: September 5th, 2023 7:55 PM Author: Effete dysfunction senate
As of March 2011, the QUIET team described the status
Observations were made from October 2008 through May 2009 using a 19-element 40 GHz instrument coupled to a 1.4 meter telescope located at the Llano de Chajnantor Observatory in Chile. Observations with a 91-element 90 GHz instrument on the same telescope finished in December 2010. The QUIET instrument has been dismantled from the old CBI mount.
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That's it. This telescope doesn't even exist anymore. The team that ran it is gone. They got tenure or went into finance. They turned in a paper and physicists said "oh let's update are models!"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5400223&forum_id=2#46758623)
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Date: September 5th, 2023 11:51 PM Author: Effete dysfunction senate
"For one thing, our heliosphere acts as a giant shield, protecting the planets from galactic cosmic radiation."
https://science.nasa.gov/heliophysics/focus-areas/heliosphere
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Date: September 6th, 2023 10:32 AM Author: Effete dysfunction senate
Do We Have the Big Bang Theory All Wrong?
One physicist’s radical reinterpretation of the cosmic microwave background.
By Mark Anderson June 25, 2014 Illustration by Eric Nyquist
All that Hans-Jörg Fahr wants is for someone to prove him wrong. A professor of astrophysics at the University of Bonn in Germany, he has taken a stand against nearly the entire field of cosmology by claiming that the diffuse glow of background microwave radiation which bathes the sky is not, as is commonly believed, a distant echo of the Big Bang, the universe’s fiery moment of creation. The idea held by the cosmology community that tiny temperature fluctuations in this microwave background tell us about the clumpiness of the early universe, he says, is wrong. The rank and file cosmologist may as well be doing Rorschach tests.
Understandably, his ideas have met with skepticism among many. Glenn Starkman, a professor of physics and astronomy at Case Western Reserve University, puts it this way: “If you seek to replace a successful theory with an alternative, then [you] must demonstrate that your alternative explains a similarly full range of phenomena… In this task [Fahr and his colleagues] have not done due diligence.” But at the same time, Fahr’s ideas are rooted in physics that has already been proven in other systems, and they make falsifiable predictions. Pressed to defend his controversial position, the unorthodox theorist stands his ground. Whether he likes it or not, Fahr has become a cosmological iconoclast.
It didn’t start this way for Fahr. Throughout the 1970s and ’80s, Fahr says he wholeheartedly supported the conventional Big Bang models of the universe while he pursued his own research into space physics. He’s made important contributions to the study of the solar wind (the stream of electrons and protons issuing from the sun) and the far solar system, where the solar wind slams into the gas and dust of interstellar space. He coined the term “heliopause” to describe this border region, which the Voyager spacecraft are now exploring today. When he turned 65 in 2005, Fahr’s colleagues organized a symposium in his honor that focused on unsolved problems in solar wind physics. A colleague of Fahr’s at the University of Bonn describes him as “one of the cleverest people around here.”
In parallel with his successes in the physics of the solar wind, Fahr also pursued a more unorthodox line of inquiry. In the 1990s he became aware of what were, in his opinion, curious gaps in the standard interpretation of the cosmic microwave background. The universe is a clumpy place, filled with vast voids interspersed with narrow, stringy filaments of galaxies and galaxy clusters. Yet the microwave background is staggeringly uniform in temperature, to one part in 1,000. Cosmologists usually assume that the microwave background’s homogeneity reflects the homogeneity of the universe as it was shortly after the Big Bang. To get from this smooth-as-cream beginning to today’s spotty universe full of voids and filaments, cosmologists add a clumping agent to their model: mysterious dark matter particles, whose existence remains unconfirmed.
No one has yet tried to observe the cosmic background radiation in the infrared, in part because it would be very difficult.
Fahr objects that this is just using one unknown to explain another unknown, and that there has to be a simpler solution. “If you take it seriously that you have a structured universe, then you need different models than used in [mainstream] cosmology,” says Fahr. “You need to pay attention to the fact that you have void and wall structures in the universe. And the expansion of the void structures is different from the expansion of the wall structures. And all of that makes the cosmos very much more complicated.”
With this in mind, Fahr set off to find a phenomenon that would naturally cause the universe to emanate a smooth microwave glow from all directions in space, like a glowing ember at a few degrees above absolute zero. He says he found one. “There was never a recombination event,” Fahr says of his model of the microwave background. “In my view [the microwave background] is just a kind of entropy feature of the cosmos as it is.”
In debating the interpretation of the cosmic microwave background, Fahr joins a long and distinguished line of heterodox astrophysicists, including the celebrated astronomers Halton Arp, Sir Fred Hoyle, and the Nobel Prize winner Hannes Alfvén. These skeptics have ascribed the microwave background to assortments of glowing clouds of gas, dust, and charged particles throughout the galaxy and nearby universe. These clumps of molecular interlopers, they claim, translate starlight bouncing around the universe into a quiet and dim bath of microwave light, a little bit like how the Earth’s atmosphere scatters blue sunlight to produce the daytime sky.
The problem with these alternative models has been that the cosmic microwave background is not patchy, like gas, dust, and charged particles are. It’s hard to see how patchwork quilts of clouds and plasmas can add up to a smooth, omnidirectional microwave glow.
In a controversial 2009 paper in the journal Annalen der Physik, Fahr suggested an answer to this problem, drawing on his own deep expertise in the solar wind. Space probes voyaging throughout the solar system for the past five decades have detected unexpected hot and cold spots in the solar wind as it works its way past the planets and toward interstellar space. These result from a kind of turbulent interaction of photons with other photons—an interaction which is usually impossible, but is enabled by the mediation of charged particles inside the solar wind.
In 2009 Fahr says he began to realize that the vacuum of space itself has a kind of remote kinship to a plasma. After all, modern physics describes the vacuum as frothy with virtual electric charges blipping into existence only to annihilate and blip back out again. Typically, though not always, these virtual particles are electrons and their antimatter counterparts positrons. So Fahr wondered: If the vacuum is an electron-positron plasma, then why wouldn’t it also enable the same photon-photon interactions that occur inside the solar wind?
If this were happening, then empty space itself could be the source of the microwave background. The photons of starlight that have been streaming through the universe over millions and billions of years interact with each other over time, gradually achieving a kind of thermal equilibrium, and translating hot point-sources of starlight into a dull all-sky glow. “It’s a very slow process which is operating,” says Fahr. “However, assuming you have time enough, then the diffusion is bringing you from stellar emissions to background emissions.”
I cannot stand kooks and illuminated fools. Of course Fahr is nothing at all of this sort.
Fahr says the effect should be observable in the lab. If laser light of a single wavelength were bounced back and forth in a vacuum for a half-year or more, its color should begin to smear, with some photons slipping into slightly higher wavelengths and others into slightly lower ones. “It is like a simulation of free space—like photons passing through cosmic space,” Fahr says. “I am predicting that the photons are not independent of each other in the long run. They interact with each other and redistribute their energies to other energies and other wavelengths.”
Fahr also suggests another experimental test that could decide between standard and alternative interpretations of the microwave background. According to conventional cosmology, the microwave background harkens back to when the universe had cooled enough to become transparent to light for the first time, about 300,000 years after the Big Bang. Previous to this cosmic epoch of “recombination,” the universe had been a dense and opaque plasma through which light could not propagate. When plasmas recombine, they produce a burst of light at a set of wavelengths characteristic of the energy levels of the hydrogen atom. This so-called “Lyman series” of spectral lines is a familiar landmark for anyone studying the behavior of plasmas in astronomy. But no evidence of a Lyman series has been observed in measurements of the microwave background.
That doesn’t mean that such a series doesn’t exist. Fahr notes that any cosmic Lyman spectral lines would be strongly Doppler shifted over the past 13.5 billion years, and so would be strongest in the infrared part of the spectrum. No one has yet tried to observe the cosmic background radiation in the infrared, in part because it would be very difficult. The Milky Way galaxy is even noisier in the infrared than it is in the microwave, making cosmic signals even harder to tease out from contaminating foreground galactic noise. This year’s big cosmic microwave background discovery—claiming to uncover evidence of gravitational waves practically from the moment of the universe’s genesis, but potentially contaminated by foreground signals—offers a cautionary tale in this regard.
But if scientists looked for a Lyman spectrum in the infrared, and didn’t find it, it would be another chink in modern cosmology’s armor.
Joan Solà, a cosmologist at the University of Barcelona, gives points to Fahr for the ingenuity of his theory, but isn’t convinced. “His playing around with numbers is entertaining, but he cannot provide a closed story that is internally consistent in itself,” Solà says.
For example, one of the arguments Fahr makes for his vacuum microwave background theory is that it can explain the observed ratio of photons to matter particles in the universe (it’s 1 billion to one). But Solà points out that one of the numbers Fahr uses for this calculation (the ratio of hydrogen to helium in the universe) comes right out of standard Big Bang theory itself, making the argument internally inconsistent.
Fahr counters that, while Big Bang theories correctly predict helium-to-hydrogen ratios, some recent studies have found much less lithium in the universe than they predict, whereas some non-Big Bang models have claimed a better fit. By questioning the ratios of elements created through nucleosynthesis in the early universe, and the interpretation of the microwave background, Fahr is attacking two of the three main pillars of evidence supporting standard Big Bang theory. The third pillar is based on the observation that the farther away a galaxy is, the greater its redshift, which suggests that our universe is expanding. Yet in his 2009 paper, Fahr cites one study from 1993 that argues for a similar distance-redshift relationship in a non-expanding universe—one which had no Big Bang.
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From Solà’s perspective, such doubting of the standard Big Bang model can quickly devolve into crackpot science. But he does not count Fahr as a crackpot. “I cannot stand kooks and illuminated fools,” Solà says. “Of course Fahr is nothing at all of this sort… He is a real scientist, and a good one by the way. But this is one thing, and the other is to buy all his ideas.” Even though he is a skeptic of Fahr’s unorthodox cosmology, Solà says the debate itself has value. “Science makes progress only because we disagree from time to time with the ancient ideas. So it is good to keep trying.”
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5400223&forum_id=2#46760384) |
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Date: September 7th, 2023 4:35 PM Author: Effete dysfunction senate
"Fahr counters that, while Big Bang theories correctly predict helium-to-hydrogen ratios, some recent studies have found much less lithium in the universe than they predict, whereas some non-Big Bang models have claimed a better fit. By questioning the ratios of elements created through nucleosynthesis in the early universe, and the interpretation of the microwave background, Fahr is attacking two of the three main pillars of evidence supporting standard Big Bang theory. The third pillar is based on the observation that the farther away a galaxy is, the greater its redshift, which suggests that our universe is expanding. Yet in his 2009 paper, Fahr cites one study from 1993 that argues for a similar distance-redshift relationship in a non-expanding universe—one which had no Big Bang."
Hey libs, that was 2014. u guys still feel like talking about redshift and whether we can trust it? I hear a lot of SHITLIBS on social media claiming we can't draw firm conclusions from JWST because we don't understand the mysteries of redshift. Surely this bro in 2014, who was also skeptical of redshift's implications, has something to contribute to shitlib cosmology. Why don't u phone him up?
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Date: September 6th, 2023 10:37 PM Author: Effete dysfunction senate
Countdown timer at the top of the page is helpful. Libs, u need to put anus lube on Subscribe and Save.
https://punch.space.swri.edu/
I gotta say these measurements to date sure do look spherical libs. I know you're hoping maybe it has tails but I don't see any in the pics.
https://punch.space.swri.edu/images/obj-12.jpg
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5400223&forum_id=2#46763631) |
Date: September 7th, 2023 4:22 PM Author: Effete dysfunction senate
"4.2. Possible Explanations for a Cosmic Microwave Background Dark Spot
A roughly circular "dark spot," with a diameter of ∼10°–11°, is found in the CMB (Schwarz et al. 2016). The dark spot is located at ℓ, b = 207°, −57° so that it overlaps the DOR cloud boundary and also borders the interfaces of the GC and BC clouds (Figure 6). An angle of 179fdg0 ± 0fdg9 separates the dark spot and the direction of the ISMF shaping the heliosphere found from IBEX ribbon models of Z16.
Polarization position angles of linearly polarized starlight in the diffuse ISM trace the least-opaque axis of the dust grains, parallel to the ISMF. The sightline with largest grain opacities occurs at angles perpendicular to the ISMF (Lazarian & Hoang 2019). This configuration leads to a possible explanation for the dark spot as due to ISDGs trapped on the magnetic field, creating an asymmetric shadow on the CMB when viewed in sightlines parallel to the ISMF.
In sightlines displaying starlight that is linearly polarized in the diffuse ISM, the most transparent axis of the grain is parallel to the ISMF, and the most opaque axis of the grain is perpendicular to the ISMF. In principle a viewpoint parallel to the ISMF will sample larger grain cross sections than will perpendicular sightlines. The parallel viewpoint also samples turbulence that is perpendicular to the ISMF such as generated by Alfvén waves. The angular width of the dark spot, ∼10°, is comparable to interstellar magnetic turbulence identified upstream of the heliosphere nose, where polarization data indicate magnetic turbulence of 9fdg6 (Frisch et al. 2015a). These data are consistent with the possibility that magnetic turbulence contributes to the width of the dark spot.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/1538-4365/ac5750
Libs, just spitballin' here - if the heliosphere is like a series of magnetic partical colliders orbiting the sun, outcomes unpredictable (and, according to this article, barely detectable), AND if these collisions generate enough random chaos in some places that all CMBR gets entirely absorbed, what confidence do you have in the accuracy of your other measurements of CMBR? Surely this isn't a binary thing where CMBR is either totally refracted out or it's sitting there undisturbed.
Also, this heliosphere seems real finnicky. Voyager 1 and 2 entered it six years apart of each other because it, like expanded or some shit. We guess. That's some pretty wild ass variance I'd say. Everything else about it seems wild and unpredictable too, like what's happening inside it. According to this article we can't even see most solar dust. We can only see solar dust with a limited range of properties. We can't see what's refracting off what or where any of it is or how big it is. Yet CMBR measurements are taken over a series of 10 years (billions $pent) and we're supposed to act like the heliosphere wasn't getting in the way during individual measurements?
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Date: December 1st, 2023 10:04 AM Author: Effete dysfunction senate
Mainstream science propagandists are reading my threads:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kTe0xRAU1w
Tell me how my cock tastes, EPAH. I want three pages, 8pt courier font, single spaced by Saturday morning. Here's Dr. Becky giving you a jump-off point for your weasely response:
https://youtu.be/-kTe0xRAU1w?t=546
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Date: December 1st, 2023 10:18 AM Author: Metal spectacular institution
Get me away from normies holy sh*t
@spidalack
16 hours ago
I love how you can make such complex topics understandable for us non-astrophysicists.
The stars never loose that magic.
Keep on being awesome.
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Date: March 31st, 2024 11:28 PM Author: Effete dysfunction senate
Look at the bullshitting they are doing now. "The solar system isn't spherical, therefore the ball of plasma around the sun cannot be spherical.* Law of nature.
Also what is this animated image based on? We sure af don't have a telescope that can take measurements like that. Libs?
https://twitter.com/konstructivizm/status/1774292285183640028?t=B7ccwus-xnocA8DHYjWInw&s=19
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Date: April 22nd, 2025 2:53 AM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
NASA quietly updated the movie thing that gets projected onto the screen at one of their observatories. Now there's a whole mini-documentary on the heliosphere. They are still using oudated mockups that make it look egg-shaped, but the narrator offers us no reason to think it isn't SPHERICAL.
For that matter, the egg shape only makes sense if you think the sun is traveling in one direction. If spacetime is expanding at the same speed in all dimensions, how can the sun have its own independent trajectory?
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