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rating poasters as bizarre classical music from the 20th/21st centuries

mostly solo piano.
jet idiot
  01/17/26
requesting Chopin pls
bearded senate
  01/17/26
Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to ...
jet idiot
  01/17/26
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flickering patrolman
  01/17/26
The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli --...
jet idiot
  01/17/26
wild, ty!
flickering patrolman
  01/17/26
There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: yo...
jet idiot
  01/17/26
...
trip crimson organic girlfriend
  01/17/26
that kind of music generally sucks, but content
sooty stirring field crotch
  01/17/26
Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical f...
jet idiot
  01/17/26
180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the u...
sooty stirring field crotch
  01/17/26
The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style...
jet idiot
  01/17/26
but content tp
clear bbw
  01/17/26
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titillating brass den
  01/17/26
Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering...
jet idiot
  01/17/26
Jcm here
insecure stubborn deer antler
  01/17/26
Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtu...
jet idiot
  01/17/26
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trip crimson organic girlfriend
  01/17/26
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concupiscible jade nibblets degenerate
  01/17/26
Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and o...
jet idiot
  01/17/26
this is completely preposterous
trip crimson organic girlfriend
  01/17/26
...
concupiscible jade nibblets degenerate
  01/17/26
I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl
jet idiot
  01/17/26
lmao
trip crimson organic girlfriend
  01/17/26
And the composer too. Almost forgot.
jet idiot
  01/17/26
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trip crimson organic girlfriend
  01/17/26
This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out ...
jet idiot
  01/18/26
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exhilarant native
  01/17/26
Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: http...
jet idiot
  01/17/26
Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant
exhilarant native
  01/17/26
Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit...
jet idiot
  01/17/26
I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt p...
trip crimson organic girlfriend
  01/17/26
I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's ...
jet idiot
  01/17/26
180 thank you you used the phrase "obviously a cynical...
trip crimson organic girlfriend
  01/17/26
No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some ...
jet idiot
  01/17/26
can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano y...
trip crimson organic girlfriend
  01/17/26
Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so ...
jet idiot
  01/17/26
link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never...
trip crimson organic girlfriend
  01/17/26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs
jet idiot
  01/17/26
ty
trip crimson organic girlfriend
  01/17/26
Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings o...
jet idiot
  01/17/26
Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.
jet idiot
  01/17/26
...
Opaque Locale Personal Credit Line
  01/17/26
"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahash...
jet idiot
  01/17/26
...
Transparent church
  01/17/26
is this a compliment? are we friends?
Opaque Locale Personal Credit Line
  01/17/26
This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.
jet idiot
  01/17/26
I love you so much
Opaque Locale Personal Credit Line
  01/17/26
...
Transparent church
  01/17/26
Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beeth...
jet idiot
  01/17/26
...
dull irradiated address
  01/17/26
I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think...
jet idiot
  01/18/26
do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth interesting te...
flickering patrolman
  01/17/26
I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this partic...
jet idiot
  01/17/26
understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is fr...
flickering patrolman
  01/17/26
Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one ...
jet idiot
  01/18/26
...
flickering patrolman
  01/18/26


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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:20 AM
Author: jet idiot

mostly solo piano.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596192)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:23 AM
Author: bearded senate

requesting Chopin pls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596197)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:27 AM
Author: jet idiot

Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to an early 20th-century reintepretation of Chopin's etudes by Godowsky. Not particularly bizarre, just difficult to perform. Apologies in advance for any disappointment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuEa1XLEVSw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596202)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:24 AM
Author: flickering patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596198)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:29 AM
Author: jet idiot

The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli -- to be performed with rage per the composer's instructions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_dn3ORLq6s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596206)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: flickering patrolman

wild, ty!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596339)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:37 PM
Author: jet idiot

There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: you either love it or violently hate it and think it's just noise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596419)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: trip crimson organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596874)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:26 PM
Author: sooty stirring field crotch

that kind of music generally sucks, but content

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596394)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:30 PM
Author: jet idiot

Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan, but that's true of most composers with a similar style. Personally I can't stand any of his music. Enjoy! Just look at how pretentious the piece's title is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYMXbM0RCeU



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596404)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:45 PM
Author: sooty stirring field crotch

180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the unreadble notation and beyond pretentious title push it over the top

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597223)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: jet idiot

The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style is taken to the point where I could create the same semi-random but pointlessly complex music despite me having no talent as a composer. That's why you can't take Ferneyhough or similar composers seriously. But they do want you to take them seriously. After all, Ferneyhough made it all the way to Stanford with this gibberish "music."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597685)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: clear bbw

but content tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597001)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:41 PM
Author: titillating brass den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596425)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: jet idiot

Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering Sorabji's typically serious style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFZYqLqBHOc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596437)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: insecure stubborn deer antler

Jcm here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596525)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:18 PM
Author: jet idiot

Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aR0naIp9eM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596530)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: trip crimson organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596884)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:20 PM
Author: concupiscible jade nibblets degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596538)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:55 PM
Author: jet idiot

Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and one foot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyy3CRuMQnc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596865)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: trip crimson organic girlfriend

this is completely preposterous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596919)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:41 PM
Author: concupiscible jade nibblets degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596958)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:47 PM
Author: jet idiot

I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596979)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: trip crimson organic girlfriend

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596985)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: jet idiot

And the composer too. Almost forgot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596999)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:48 PM
Author: trip crimson organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597089)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 9:19 AM
Author: jet idiot

This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out his "Innocent Prisoner" for piano and voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LIw8ykSmGU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49598324)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:56 PM
Author: exhilarant native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596869)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: jet idiot

Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKfFaSWr4m0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596870)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: exhilarant native

Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596948)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: jet idiot

Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit of dissonance and complexity without devolving into randomness. Actually it goes too far, but there's much worse out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596986)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:05 PM
Author: trip crimson organic girlfriend

I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt performance of John Cage's As Slow As Possible. Rate me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Slow_as_Possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596877)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: jet idiot

I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's his "Phrygian Gates": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DixKnE9HqIU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596883)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: trip crimson organic girlfriend

180 thank you

you used the phrase "obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan" above and that is how I view Cage but others may disagree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596891)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:16 PM
Author: jet idiot

No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some of his music is actually enjoyable. For instance, his pieces for prepared piano.

Ferneyhough, the fraud and charlatan, is just SPS with no redeeming qualities. It's just unnecessary complexity and near-randomness that ordinary people laugh at (and should).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596904)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: trip crimson organic girlfriend

can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano you enjoyed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596915)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:34 PM
Author: jet idiot

Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so I don't remember specific pieces. The interesting ones had minimalist aspects IIRC. The problem with the recordings is the piano preparation and resultant sound varies wildly with each recording. So some recordings sound dull while others are more lively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596940)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:36 PM
Author: trip crimson organic girlfriend

link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never been able to enjoy anything by Cage but I'm open to reassessing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596945)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:40 PM
Author: jet idiot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596952)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: trip crimson organic girlfriend

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596984)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:52 PM
Author: jet idiot

Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings of Cage's works were my favorite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596991)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: jet idiot

Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596993)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: Opaque Locale Personal Credit Line



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596950)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:48 PM
Author: jet idiot

"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahashi's recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbUgAXt75s8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596980)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: Transparent church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597105)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:25 PM
Author: Opaque Locale Personal Credit Line

is this a compliment? are we friends?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597348)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: jet idiot

This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597403)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: Opaque Locale Personal Credit Line

I love you so much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597475)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: Transparent church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597104)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:02 PM
Author: jet idiot

Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beethoven's last piano sonata, for mechanical piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gyJkYWdWWo (gets interesting after about 8-10 minutes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597137)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:00 PM
Author: dull irradiated address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597425)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: jet idiot

I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think of anything more appropriate than Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 6 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Y1bZYi60M

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49598298)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:10 PM
Author: flickering patrolman

do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth

interesting technique

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYtybgToH2Q&t=28s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597568)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:43 PM
Author: jet idiot

I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this particular piece. Classical music snobs would probably thumb their noses at this piece, but the snobs can be ignored. All that matters is whether you like it.

The technique of modifying the sound of the piano by interacting with the strings themselves is not new. Henry Cowell first explored this around 100 or so years ago. John Cage took the idea further in his pieces for prepared piano, which I mentioned earlier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597648)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: flickering patrolman

understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is from cage - i like this a lot more than him though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597813)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:54 AM
Author: jet idiot

Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one of Cage's teachers, if I remember correctly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49598296)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 10:26 AM
Author: flickering patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49598425)