http://www.dancarlin.com/disp.php?page=hharchive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#20547457)

there are other games on tonight, too:

http://whl.ca/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#20547506)

The most famous, apocalyptic episode of the campaign against the Gauls was the Siege of Alesia, where the starving Gauls were forced to send the women and children out of the besieged town to the mercy of the Romans.

Roman mercy being what it is, they were all left to die of starvation in between the battlements. Imagine having to watch your wife and children suffer this fate for the future of Gallic freedom. You’d probably see the Romans as a War of the Worlds type of force for unstoppable cruelty and menace. The Gallic wars essentially ended Celtic culture in Gaul.

The most interesting part is that it’s not inconceivable that the Gauls could have won. After all, it only took a few decisive victories by the Germans to permanently dissuade Roman encroachment into their territories. It wasn’t like one side had fighter jets and the other were Afghani goat herders with Soviet AKs. The Gauls and Romans, in comparison, perhaps the Romans leveled up to the Classical era 2-3 turns ahead of the Gauls. Not an insurmountable task.

Here’s the link:

https://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-60-the-celtic-holocaust/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40788388)

the most exact equivalent in our lifetimes will not be the loss of American geopolitical empire, but rather the slow decline of the American dollar (and the concomitant decline in American living standards)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#20547631)

Then after hordes took over w few areas maybe made some people nervous. Hordes were then incorporated into the Roman army, it’s all good. We’re at the top, just bring in some more cheap slaves and labor. Give them some land nobody wanted anyways.

Roman army led by hordes goes berzerk and loots everything and romans think “well we’ve always had civil wars.” This will blow over they’re still learning our language. Generation goes by and the next one is used to Roman army being slightly unreliable, mostly foreign, and constantly looting territory.

Generation goes by. Maybe you stop paying taxes, don’t care to pay taxes, see Roman army as more of a problem than help. None of your friends and relatives are going into it so why care what they do as long as they leave you alone.

Generation goes by. Now “Roman” army shows up and you’re so used to this that you just leave the city and move somewhere else. Who cares if the burn the city to the ground. The government is corrupt and ineffective and has no control over anything. When the Roman army leader appoints himself emperor, you say whatever. There’s always been two emperors, the one in Constantinople is still ok.

Generation goes by and nobody cares about emperor 2000 miles away. You’re used to barbarians being in charge, they’re not that bad. Buildings are crumbling and you’re taking dumps in the street, but you don’t even know any different. Grandpa keeps talking about Roman legions, but that’s more of a Greek thing now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40294419)