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Date: July 18th, 2012 10:00 PM Author: hairraiser antidepressant drug institution Typically, I would enjoy watching you entitled fags worry about failing in life. But, my bar experience was made better by this site so I thought I would give back. Two days before the bar I was eating dinner. Five minutes later I was puking everywhere and sweating profusely. I had not yet begun studying for a section that was guaranteed 10% of the entire bar. Additionally, I was barely hanging on in the other portions. I went into freak out mode. Sough prescription drugs from a friend to calm me down. Went to my GFs and was pretty much paralyzed by fear. I was able to sleep, but barely. I decided not to take the bar because I knew I was waaaay underprepared. I came on here and everyone said just take it, I still have a slim chance of passing. I told myself that my entire goal was to make it through the first day and would just no show for the rest. At least I would get over the fear of the first day.
On the first day, I hadn't eaten for 48 hours and couldn't feel my legs walking in. When I opened the packet, I just BSed the entire thing. I showed up for the second day; still hadn't eaten anything. Got through the MBE. That night, I reviewed for the essays and took a sleeping pill. I went to the third day, still malnourished. Somehow, I made it through. Fast forward a few months and results. I passed! By a lot! And only because I decided not to be a pussy and just show up.
The entire point of this is to say, you will fucking pass if you have studied anything at all. By a wide margin. Stop freaking out. It’s not that big of a deal.
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Date: July 18th, 2012 10:10 PM Author: dark cruel-hearted brunch Are you in TX?
btw, every year someone posts a thread like this. Last year it was TBF. |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 10:41 PM Author: hairraiser antidepressant drug institution Okay. And everyone will ignore that post and will think THEY will be the one that fails. This is just a reminder that they won't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21119653) |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 10:42 PM Author: dark cruel-hearted brunch bro, were you in TX? did you forget crim p&e was on there? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21119666) |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 10:58 PM Author: hairraiser antidepressant drug institution Indeed. And by crim do you mean crim & civ P/E? No, I knew it was there; I just chose not to worry about it. I figured I could cram last minute. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21119836) |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 11:06 PM Author: dark cruel-hearted brunch same thing happened to a buddy.
I figured I could cram for it and only started until yesterday, it's going to take more time than I expected. still not fucked? how far back do I need to go w/ old P&E exams? |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 10:42 PM Author: lavender community account Rowan did it my year, that's why I like her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21119673) |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 10:19 PM Author: racy orchestra pit Looked at my kingdom I was finally there To sit on my throne as the prince of Bel-air |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 10:21 PM Author: bossy meetinghouse tattoo 180. TY brother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21119421) |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 10:55 PM Author: Emerald nubile sex offender WHAT STATE?
And ty bro. |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 11:02 PM Author: hairraiser antidepressant drug institution Tex (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21119891) |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 11:03 PM Author: Emerald nubile sex offender TBF, texas is notoriously easy with a like 86% pass rate
how is the texas exam scored? |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 9:42 AM Author: sienna factory reset button Greetings, lol wtf texas is known as a hard state to pass california only has such a high fail rate because you let retards take it just look at the MBE statistics by state, california and new york have some of the lowest average MBE scores every year |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 10:23 AM Author: pea-brained hilarious corn cake fwiw TWO of my HYS friends failed the July TX exam. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21122127) |
Date: July 18th, 2012 10:01 PM Author: Ultramarine marvelous death wish THEN THREE MONTHS LATER I GOT A LETTER FROM THE STATE THAT READ "DING,FAG!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21119238) |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 10:02 PM Author: impressive love of her life LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21119254) |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 10:03 PM Author: hairraiser antidepressant drug institution Yeah, premature poastulation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21119266) |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 10:32 PM Author: Milky Toaster Heaven twist: you would have failed the CA bar (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21119544) |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 10:48 PM Author: Citrine Pisswyrm Can't agree with OP more. IF YOU ARE SMART ENOUGH TO WRITE IN ENGLISH AND FOUND THIS BOARD, YOU WILL LIKELY PASS.
-- The bar is a test of MINIMUM qualifications.
-- The bar awards points for good writing that is legally incorrect
-- Most MBE questions are easy and you don't really need to get any of the hard ones correct
-- You are testing with non-native English speakers, people who barely passed through a fourth tier law school, hard drug users, among others.
-- You will pass. |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 10:51 PM Author: Milky Toaster Heaven this is just not true for CA. it is for other state, but not CA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21119769) |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 10:53 PM Author: Citrine Pisswyrm in fairness I know nothing about CALBAR except that a lot of non-English speakers and non-accredited "law school" grads take it, which I think has something to do with the fail rate that's scaring you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21119791) |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 10:56 PM Author: bossy meetinghouse tattoo no brother. MBE is only 35% and noncumulative.
thus, even with a great raw MBE, lets say 150, you need to be averaging around 60s on essays. A 60 essay is pretty fucking good (know all the law, spot all major issues, good analysis, maybe miss 1, or at most 2, collateral/minor issues). |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 10:59 PM Author: Emerald nubile sex offender does CA scale the essays? or is it straight up raw pts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21119862) |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 11:00 PM Author: hairraiser antidepressant drug institution So you are saying that a shitty, but barely passing MBE score is the goal? That doesn't sound too bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21119867) |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 11:01 PM Author: bossy meetinghouse tattoo flame. 150 raw is not shitty, barely passing. and 60s on essays are pretty fucking hard to come by. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21119879) |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 11:03 PM Author: hairraiser antidepressant drug institution So you have to have a 150 raw score to pass the MBE (and therefore the entire exam)? Hard to believe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21119900) |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 11:05 PM Author: dark cruel-hearted brunch wtf is "passing the MBE"? your flame is self destructing
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Date: July 19th, 2012 9:44 AM Author: sienna factory reset button Greetings, Presumably it's referencing the fact that in California if you don't meet a minimum score on the MBE, you don't get admitted to the next day |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 11:06 PM Author: bossy meetinghouse tattoo http://californiagbx0707.blogspot.com/2012/05/and-envelope-please.html
And he didn't pass by a long shot. If you don't believe me re: difficulty of getting 60+ on essays, COP DAT baressays.com membership - they have actual, graded essays. 60 essays are mad solid. Not flame - i was coif @ T20. |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 2:47 AM Author: aquamarine mediation liquid oxygen dood, those scores are available because the people that wrote those essays failed. Otherwise there'd be no way of knowing that those essays were a 60. They're probably not nearly as good as you think.
The CA written portion tests one thing and one thing only: how good you are at headings.
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Date: July 19th, 2012 2:49 AM Author: bossy meetinghouse tattoo true. but when comparing the essays that get 55 to 65 or 70, there is little difference.
brother, if you can, elaborate on headings. do it or every issue/sub-issue?
E.g., for a contract, should i divide it out with offer, acceptance, consideration? Or can I just have one header for "The Contract was Valid" and discuss all 3? |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 2:52 AM Author: embarrassed to the bone famous landscape painting Have a separate heading for each element. You can't have too many headings, but they'll punish you if you don't have enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21121548) |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 4:07 AM Author: aquamarine mediation liquid oxygen CR
you should look at your finished essay and think to yourself, "yo dawg we herd you like headings"
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Date: July 19th, 2012 12:09 AM Author: Contagious property macaca I got the same advice about the mbe. I heard most aren't hard. You just gotta nail the easy and medium ones and that comes when you stat calm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21120548) |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 11:05 PM Author: Sooty aphrodisiac school cafeteria roommate don't be. i forgot about it until two weeks before, skimmed some practice questions, and did fine. i really don't see what all the big fuss is about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21119942) |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 11:13 PM Author: dark cruel-hearted brunch (Wisconsin attorney) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21120018) |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 11:15 PM Author: Self-centered frum hall Before posting stuff like this, you guys should mention what state you're taking.
Because yeah, if all you have to know is 6 1L subjects, then you can study enough in two weeks to pass.
On the other hand if you have to study three times as many subjects, if not more, then NO IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO PASS IN TWO WEEKS. |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 11:17 PM Author: Sooty aphrodisiac school cafeteria roommate california (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21120055) |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 11:17 PM Author: Milky Toaster Heaven FLAME (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21120057) |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 11:17 PM Author: Self-centered frum hall lol Okay, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21120061) |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 9:38 AM Author: underhanded vivacious point mad cow disease "forgot about" the bar = 120 flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21121962) |
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Date: July 18th, 2012 11:52 PM Author: Effete knife WRONG. I failed, t6 grad, 177 lsat, studied for 2-3 wks, not a hard state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21120419) |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 12:21 PM Author: high-end razzle dopamine never met anyone like you, so i call flame. did you not even try to get points on the essays you didnt know? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21122869) |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 12:30 PM Author: Effete knife I fucking wish man. I dont know wtf happened (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21122914) |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 1:53 AM Author: multi-colored violet chapel Subject: I'm going to fail TX bar Submitted two barbri optional essays for grading (family law & oil and gas): got a 5 on one and a 6 on the other. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21121311) |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 9:48 AM Author: sienna factory reset button Greetings, yes you are |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 11:31 AM Author: pea-brained hilarious corn cake the family law/community property essays are gimme's (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21122517) |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 12:34 PM Author: multi-colored violet chapel Yeah, that's what I thought. I'm just terrible at writing this stuff. Thing is, on the family law question, I knew the rules. I just need to practice spouting tons of seemingly irrelevant information. E.g. question asks for whether Aunt and Uncle can bring an action, and they want you to talk about how grandparents can bring an action. Who cares, I know Aunt and Uncle can't in Texas.
Since everything I wrote was correct, I figured I'd at least get 10.
As for oil and gas, I just didn't know the rules. Just screwed. |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 11:29 AM Author: Twinkling arousing voyeur Out Of 10? That's passing in NY at least. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21122498) |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 12:31 PM Author: multi-colored violet chapel Out of 25, 16 is passing.
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Date: July 19th, 2012 10:12 AM Author: tripping navy really tough guy gas station AGREED.
went to a TTTT law school, did not study until 3 days before the exam, horrified at myself, bought an outline from online, BSed my way through the exam, unsure about like 75-80% of my answers (and that's being lenient), felt for sure i was going to fail. went back to the office i worked for, told everyone that I probably failed.
passed (NY). |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 11:36 AM Author: Chrome Sanctuary THE OP IS COMPLETELY RIGHT. CALM THE FUCK DOWN!
Just for an example, I got a clerkship that started four days after graduation. The Judge was all "Look I dont give time off for the bar except for two weeks before it, because (1) my clerks always pass it, and (2) you can take it again in February if you do." I was like "Oh shit." No bar bri, no kaplan, no whatever that other thing is. Bought Micromash and used it for two weeks, passed by a huge margin.
NOT THAT BIG A DEAL |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 11:49 AM Author: bossy meetinghouse tattoo what state brother? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21122639) |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 11:53 AM Author: Chrome Sanctuary GA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21122657) |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 6:45 PM Author: racy orchestra pit tbf Nancy Grace easily passed the GA bar (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21124901) |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 12:20 PM Author: high-end razzle dopamine This. I'm lazy and barely studied, but i practiced a lot of those multiple choice questions to get the little shit down(larceny v. the other stealing crimes, etc). murked it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21122859) |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 6:37 PM Author: Awkward balding hominid feces terrible advice. Everyone taking a hard bar like NY or CA should be worried. I knew a dood on Law Review that failed (in NY). Most of you will be fine. But a few of you will not. Every year a handful of people fail. Most are non-native speakers or people who did not study at all, but some are normal students (like you) that just had a bad day. You do NOT want to be one of the ones that fail ITE.
This advice does not pertain to people taking useless bars (i.e., any bar that isn't NY or CA). |
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Date: July 19th, 2012 7:31 PM Author: cowardly shaky stag film what ranked school? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1998007&forum_id=2#21125216) |