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statistical breakdown of H1B data; analyst claims it's mostly about cheap labor

it has some info i wasn't aware of. not surprisingly, the pr...
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Do we graduate enough software developers and accountants do...
pitbulls eating your face in hell forever tp
  12/30/24
no, of course not. can u think of ANY profession where non-j...
AZNgirl building Great Wall on Gook Airport runway
  12/30/24
Why would we not include Jews if they are Americans graduati...
pitbulls eating your face in hell forever tp
  12/30/24
Most white Americans are retarded. They’re not going i...
Fyre festival founder
  12/30/24
Math degree is all u need
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  12/30/24
https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=37 Looks lik...
pitbulls eating your face in hell forever tp
  12/30/24
lol@ going to college for 4 years to learn CS. There's nothi...
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What sort of credentials, if any, do the H1b hires typically...
pitbulls eating your face in hell forever tp
  12/30/24
I don't know anyone who made serious money in tech who neede...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
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there are reportedly a glut of coders now since all the &quo...
I plan to absolutely ruin MPM
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Yeah you see absolutely insane numbers of applications for t...
Jeetmaxxer 2025
  12/30/24
it's fucking mind boggling that we're importing anyone, but ...
I plan to absolutely ruin MPM
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Are the entry-level kids coming out of college not able to g...
pitbulls eating your face in hell forever tp
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None of this matters. If they really can't find anyone dome...
Ass Sunstein
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auntie kamala?s boy toy
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An it's not like they would get these jobs even if they do e...
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also, it's about coding demonic fart apps. i'm ok with impor...
I plan to absolutely ruin MPM
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It's much more than that, some companies entire IT departmen...
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sure. but none of that is so essential that it justifies imp...
I plan to absolutely ruin MPM
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Or they should just fully outsource those departments to Ind...
Ass Sunstein
  12/30/24
i'd rather not allow companies to do this as much as possibl...
I plan to absolutely ruin MPM
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The kind of work these people do is boring as shit. Update t...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  12/30/24
low iq americans need jobs too. no one wants to do roofing o...
I plan to absolutely ruin MPM
  12/30/24
It's not low IQ. It's just dead-end. These people are workin...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  12/30/24
what point are you trying to make here? i'm not saying these...
I plan to absolutely ruin MPM
  12/30/24
I'm saying the issue isn't the training pipeline, or the lac...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
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"there are plenty of people here that can do this shit,...
I plan to absolutely ruin MPM
  12/30/24
By calling it "low IQ" you're discouraging people ...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  12/30/24
jfc this is a complete nons-sequitor you schizo.
I plan to absolutely ruin MPM
  12/30/24
The reason we import turd MDs is because the AMA has capped ...
Ass Sunstein
  12/30/24
i'm aware but i just choose doctor for a job that would just...
I plan to absolutely ruin MPM
  12/30/24
The foreign docs still need to do a US residency though
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  12/30/24
csb
Ass Sunstein
  12/30/24
This is because of GPA
cowgod
  12/30/24
And in some states, lawyers don't even need a particular deg...
CriminalConversation
  12/30/24
Of course we do it's just a flat out lie we don't. In fact g...
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This is what I assumed but see my link above. It looks like ...
pitbulls eating your face in hell forever tp
  12/30/24
You are looking at a graph of Associates' degrees only.
Ass Sunstein
  12/30/24
Oh damn, you’re right. So ~125k bachelor’s degre...
pitbulls eating your face in hell forever tp
  12/30/24
Yeah. Plus I think a good chunk of those "business&quo...
Ass Sunstein
  12/30/24
Learning to code is necessary for about 4,000 different care...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  12/30/24
Yes. Each of these jobs gets like 100 applications on indeed...
Jeetmaxxer 2025
  12/30/24
Yeah we need thousands of Indians to make sure google search...
darkweb search: incel blackpill ideology
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H1B is 100% for the benefit of employers and drives down Ame...
Women are 180.
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the fact that the salary floor hasn't changed since it was i...
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Tcr
pitbulls eating your face in hell forever tp
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This. If you asked me to guess how much the average H1B make...
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Jeetmaxxer 2025
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India has received nearly 75% of H1Bs over the past 10 years
cannon
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so, Elon responded to that guy's thread and has conceded tha...
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Date: December 30th, 2024 12:19 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


it has some info i wasn't aware of. not surprisingly, the program is loved by employers.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1873174358535110953

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501341)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:11 PM
Author: pitbulls eating your face in hell forever tp

Do we graduate enough software developers and accountants domestically to fill these roles if the H1b program was ended?

What is the typical salary for these roles compared to the $80k-$120k the author cites for the typical H1b salary?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501558)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:15 PM
Author: AZNgirl building Great Wall on Gook Airport runway

no, of course not. can u think of ANY profession where non-jew birdshits graduate enough to fill all the spots? law? no medicine? no cock sucking? maybe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501567)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:22 PM
Author: pitbulls eating your face in hell forever tp

Why would we not include Jews if they are Americans graduating from American universities?

I was under the impression that STEM generally and computer science specifically was very popular with the zoomers coming out of college these days. Is that not the case?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501596)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:28 PM
Author: Fyre festival founder

Most white Americans are retarded. They’re not going into computer science or engineering. When I was in college, compsci was all Asian bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501614)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:33 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


Math degree is all u need

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501630)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:41 PM
Author: pitbulls eating your face in hell forever tp

https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=37

Looks like you may be right. I would have thought computer science would be higher. Lol at our higher education industry pumping out 350k new liberal artists every year, what an embarrassment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501665)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:42 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


lol@ going to college for 4 years to learn CS. There's nothing about the work that requires a 4-year degree in anything. It's easy to generate programmers if you can dislodge Americans from the belief that everyone has to go to Harvard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501674)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:52 PM
Author: pitbulls eating your face in hell forever tp

What sort of credentials, if any, do the H1b hires typically have?

Or is it just a technical interview and as long as you pass you’re hired and they don’t care about credentials at all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501714)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:06 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


I don't know anyone who made serious money in tech who needed credentials of any kind. We used to do ctrl-apple-reset and write progams in BASIC in the computer labs in elementary school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501764)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:56 PM
Author: I plan to absolutely ruin MPM (gunneratttt)

there are reportedly a glut of coders now since all the "just learn to code" generation is graduating. and more are coming.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501734)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:10 PM
Author: Jeetmaxxer 2025

Yeah you see absolutely insane numbers of applications for these entry level coding jobs. There are CS majors working retail out of college now...completely insane.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501793)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:25 PM
Author: I plan to absolutely ruin MPM (gunneratttt)

it's fucking mind boggling that we're importing anyone, but least of all a field that is already oversaturated. fuck these fucking kikes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501846)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 3:02 PM
Author: pitbulls eating your face in hell forever tp

Are the entry-level kids coming out of college not able to get these H1b jobs for $70k? How is that possible?

I made $60k coming out of LAW SCHOOL as a clerk. I would think a 21-year old dude with a CS degree would be able to compete for a $70k coding job, and that it would be a better option than retail. Do the firms hiring H1bs actively discriminate against local applicants or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501964)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:31 PM
Author: Ass Sunstein

None of this matters. If they really can't find anyone domestically to fill the roles at any salary, they can always hire someone remotely. Many coders didn't have CS degrees throughout the history of the industry, it's not some legal requirement like a doctor or lawyer having a particular degree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501625)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:36 PM
Author: auntie kamala?s boy toy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501644)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:52 PM
Author: ..,,....,,.,..,,..,,...,...,,....,...,


An it's not like they would get these jobs even if they do everything right, or want them after finding out who they're working with

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501712)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:55 PM
Author: I plan to absolutely ruin MPM (gunneratttt)

also, it's about coding demonic fart apps. i'm ok with importing h1b turd MDs i guess. but who cares if fart apps are struggling to find talent domestically?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501722)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:57 PM
Author: ..,,....,,.,..,,..,,...,...,,....,...,


It's much more than that, some companies entire IT departments are pretty much filled this way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501738)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:06 PM
Author: I plan to absolutely ruin MPM (gunneratttt)

sure. but none of that is so essential that it justifies importing turds.

there are plenty of people here that can do this shit, or could learn to. i know a guy that runs one of those "coding bootcamps" that literally takes inner city dindus and turns them into six-figuremos in 12 weeks.

all importing jeets does is drive down the value of labor, and disincentive people from developing the expertise to do these jobs. if it was something urgent and important, like a shortage of doctors, i'd be ok with it. IT jeets don't cut it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501765)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:12 PM
Author: Ass Sunstein

Or they should just fully outsource those departments to India directly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501797)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:20 PM
Author: I plan to absolutely ruin MPM (gunneratttt)

i'd rather not allow companies to do this as much as possible. but between the two, yeah of course i'd rather not import a bunch of turds and turn into canada, and the fact it can be done remotely makes this whole thing way more retarded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501829)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:13 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


The kind of work these people do is boring as shit. Update the "install" script, shit like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501799)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:18 PM
Author: I plan to absolutely ruin MPM (gunneratttt)

low iq americans need jobs too. no one wants to do roofing or pick strawberries either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501821)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:19 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


It's not low IQ. It's just dead-end. These people are working on someone else's code, not writing anything from the ground up. You can't learn anything from that except how to imitate another programmer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501827)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:24 PM
Author: I plan to absolutely ruin MPM (gunneratttt)

what point are you trying to make here? i'm not saying these jobs are awesome or interesting. i'm saying that the value of labor in america is already very low, and the cost of living is growing, and the last thing we need to do is import people that exacerbates both of these problems.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501843)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:27 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


I'm saying the issue isn't the training pipeline, or the lack of CS majors. This work doesn't require any of that shit.

If we are being honest, this kind of work requires less intelligence than most skilled labor. A plumber doesn't just replace old gaskets for 40hrs/wk, occasionally he has to get out the welding torch and solve problems. This H1B shit requires familiarity with a different kind of technology, but that's it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501850)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:29 PM
Author: I plan to absolutely ruin MPM (gunneratttt)

"there are plenty of people here that can do this shit, or could learn to. i know a guy that runs one of those "coding bootcamps" that literally takes inner city dindus and turns them into six-figuremos in 12 weeks."

how is that contrary to the poast you responded to?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501857)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:31 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


By calling it "low IQ" you're discouraging people from doing it. Conversely, if you call it "high IQ" you give the impression that it's exciting/interesting work.

In reality it's NEITHER. If you want inner city kids to learn it, start by being honest with them about the work itself and STFU about IQ.

The biggest issue is boredom. No one wants to sit on their ass and do this tedious, repetitive shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501860)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:35 PM
Author: I plan to absolutely ruin MPM (gunneratttt)

jfc this is a complete nons-sequitor you schizo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501878)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:00 PM
Author: Ass Sunstein

The reason we import turd MDs is because the AMA has capped the number of domestic med school spots and hasn't increased it since the 1990s. It's not due to any domestic talent shortage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501756)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:07 PM
Author: I plan to absolutely ruin MPM (gunneratttt)

i'm aware but i just choose doctor for a job that would justify importing if their was a shortage. i wasn't implying that any shortage is due to a shortage in domestic talent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501773)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:08 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


The foreign docs still need to do a US residency though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501778)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:09 PM
Author: Ass Sunstein

csb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501786)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:22 PM
Author: cowgod

This is because of GPA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501837)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:59 PM
Author: CriminalConversation

And in some states, lawyers don't even need a particular degree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501746)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:51 PM
Author: ..,,....,,.,..,,..,,...,...,,....,...,


Of course we do it's just a flat out lie we don't. In fact grads at even top schools who are plenty smart (and certainly smarter than 90% of Indian h1bs) say they're worried about the job market. It's just a disgusting rug pull basically

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501706)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:02 PM
Author: pitbulls eating your face in hell forever tp

This is what I assumed but see my link above. It looks like we only graduate ~50k computer science dudes (I’m assuming it’s nearly 100% men) per year. That wouldn’t be enough to fill the 85k H1b visa roles even if every spot went to a new graduate, nevermind all the positions that are not open to H1bs for whatever reason.

As a prestigious liberal artist and legal scholar this is not an area I’m very familiar with so just trying to get a sense of the reality of the situation outside of all the ideological ax-grinding.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501759)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:08 PM
Author: Ass Sunstein

You are looking at a graph of Associates' degrees only.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501777)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:20 PM
Author: pitbulls eating your face in hell forever tp

Oh damn, you’re right. So ~125k bachelor’s degrees for engineering, that’s better I suppose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501831)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:27 PM
Author: Ass Sunstein

Yeah. Plus I think a good chunk of those "business" degrees include IT/Information Systems degrees.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501849)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:17 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


Learning to code is necessary for about 4,000 different career fields now. Even without knowing shit about shit, you can probably understand 30% of this random snippet:

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printQemuCpu: function(cpu) {

let cpustr = cpu.cputype;

let optstr = '';

Ext.Object.each(cpu, function(key, value) {

if (!Ext.isDefined(value) || key === 'cputype') {

return; // continue

}

optstr += ',' + key + '=' + value;

});

if (!cpustr) {

if (optstr) {

return 'kvm64' + optstr;

} else {

return undefined;

}

}

return cpustr + optstr;

---------

All you really need to know is what QEMU and VM mean and you're 80% there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501814)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:06 PM
Author: Jeetmaxxer 2025

Yes. Each of these jobs gets like 100 applications on indeed. The job market for entry level software developers is miserable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501768)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:07 PM
Author: darkweb search: incel blackpill ideology

Yeah we need thousands of Indians to make sure google search is even more useless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501772)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:52 PM
Author: Women are 180.

H1B is 100% for the benefit of employers and drives down American wages. MBA classes are like 20% Indian.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501709)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:52 PM
Author: ..,,....,,.,..,,..,,...,...,,....,...,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501713)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:53 PM
Author: giga weed (🧐)

the fact that the salary floor hasn't changed since it was introduced over 30 years ago (60k has gone to 140k after inflation) is some live tuna wink$ level shit. that one | weird | fix alone would be huge

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501716)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:55 PM
Author: auntie kamala?s boy toy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501723)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:55 PM
Author: I plan to absolutely ruin MPM (gunneratttt)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501729)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:05 PM
Author: pitbulls eating your face in hell forever tp

Tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501762)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:09 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


This. If you asked me to guess how much the average H1B makes I'd say $70k. I don't even know what I'm basing that on, must be repressed memories.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501787)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:55 PM
Author: I plan to absolutely ruin MPM (gunneratttt)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501727)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:06 PM
Author: darkweb search: incel blackpill ideology



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501766)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:11 PM
Author: Jeetmaxxer 2025



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501795)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:19 PM
Author: cannon

India has received nearly 75% of H1Bs over the past 10 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48501824)



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Date: December 31st, 2024 11:37 AM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


so, Elon responded to that guy's thread and has conceded that major reforms are necessary. it's a small step but is some progress.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656776&forum_id=2#48504595)