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Wow. Just found the spreadsheet showing every partners draw

Firm is about 70 lawyers. Founding partners made $1.4mm ...
razzle amethyst property giraffe
  03/26/13
city [size]? what's the highest associate salary?
Lascivious immigrant public bath
  03/26/13
SF No idea about salaries. There are "of counsel&qu...
razzle amethyst property giraffe
  03/26/13
(episode on The Practice)
Balding selfie
  05/26/13
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Ocher dashing generalized bond place of business
  03/26/13
well, TBF, this is a smaller firm. at the big firms they ar...
razzle amethyst property giraffe
  03/26/13
...
Ocher dashing generalized bond place of business
  03/26/13
no, i'm 05'. probably will be more like $250k. at my ...
razzle amethyst property giraffe
  03/26/13
Class of the year 500-something? You're way under paid, bre...
Twisted Mischievous Menage Cuckold
  03/26/13
2005?
razzle amethyst property giraffe
  03/26/13
I was just fucking with you bro, because you typed 05' inste...
Twisted Mischievous Menage Cuckold
  03/26/13
(Guy who changed his poast to avoid "The Game") ...
Adventurous Erotic Turdskin
  05/26/13
tyft
Adventurous Erotic Turdskin
  05/26/13
375 is a lot more than 200 you have to realize that there...
insecure national
  03/26/13
...
Ocher dashing generalized bond place of business
  03/26/13
man, this is depressing. I should just go back to my old fi...
razzle amethyst property giraffe
  03/26/13
nah, money aint everything bro. if you have no loans 250k is...
insecure national
  03/26/13
yeah. It is more that I'd like to save some more. Definite...
razzle amethyst property giraffe
  03/26/13
what's your top line expenses/savings like now?
insecure national
  03/26/13
with wife, like $2.5k into the 401k and $4k in after tax sav...
razzle amethyst property giraffe
  03/26/13
oh you save a shitload then bro. what are you worried about
insecure national
  03/26/13
I would save another $60k a year...
razzle amethyst property giraffe
  03/26/13
motherfuck yeah it's a lot more than 200 your breakdown sho...
aquamarine submissive step-uncle's house electric furnace
  03/26/13
how else would you put it
insecure national
  03/26/13
you can live the same lifestyle and retire at 45 at 375k or ...
aquamarine submissive step-uncle's house electric furnace
  03/26/13
agree with this in theory but i would argue in a really high...
swashbuckling chapel messiness
  03/26/13
wtf can u get on an $1800 a month mortgage? a closet?
Lime mother
  03/26/13
lol typo, meant $800k-$1M mortgage. for $1800/mo you can ...
swashbuckling chapel messiness
  03/26/13
yeah 100k definitely does not apply to SF/MFH. then again a ...
insecure national
  03/26/13
?
Duck-like dopamine headpube
  03/26/13
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Ocher dashing generalized bond place of business
  03/26/13
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Duck-like dopamine headpube
  03/26/13
not to rain on your parade, but many doc systems have "...
Mint brunch azn
  03/26/13
true story. A dood I work with went out on vacation and...
Twisted Mischievous Menage Cuckold
  03/26/13
wtf was the associate thinking when she tried to cover her f...
Lascivious immigrant public bath
  03/26/13
she changed the documents to make it look like my buddy fuck...
Twisted Mischievous Menage Cuckold
  03/26/13
just LOL. care to explain what actually got fucked up at clo...
Lascivious immigrant public bath
  03/26/13
yeah. not sure how I can be blamed for looking at it when i...
razzle amethyst property giraffe
  03/26/13
"yeah, not sure how i can get blamed for something that...
Turquoise effete pistol
  03/26/13
...
bateful station
  03/26/13
...
Blue flatulent chad parlour
  03/26/13
...
Chartreuse Range
  05/03/13
Not just law
massive hateful set fortuitous meteor
  05/26/13
You should delete the document to be safe.
Bronze motley home stock car
  03/26/13
...
insecure national
  03/26/13
...
Lime mother
  03/26/13
At the risk of sounding beta, you probably want to let someo...
Titillating Indigo Therapy International Law Enforcement Agency
  03/26/13
Relatedly, have you ever looked at your own docs to see who ...
jet organic girlfriend travel guidebook
  05/03/13
250K in SF = what in Low COL ARE country? 40k-50k?
hairraiser windowlicker jap
  03/26/13
seems perfectly reasonable. what did you think it would be?
embarrassed to the bone pisswyrm plaza
  03/26/13
this is what I expected. just more surprised that they have...
razzle amethyst property giraffe
  03/26/13
maybe there's a secret multiplier, like 0.5, and they really...
embarrassed to the bone pisswyrm plaza
  03/26/13
did you add yourself to the spread sheet as a partner yet?
Sable dysfunction
  03/26/13
yes. I gave myself $800k. That is reasonable, right?
razzle amethyst property giraffe
  03/26/13
good thinking that way, even if someone looks at it and t...
Sable dysfunction
  03/26/13
it was actually $798,586. That looked more "real"...
razzle amethyst property giraffe
  03/26/13
What's unreasonable about any of this
Blathering roast beef
  03/26/13
Lot of spreadsheets being discovered lately.
Emerald sickened stain
  03/26/13


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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:12 PM
Author: razzle amethyst property giraffe

Firm is about 70 lawyers.

Founding partners made $1.4mm last year. Newest partner (02 grad) made $375k. Firm averaged $605k ppp.

Not sure what to think about this, but can't believe they have this document on the system with no lock.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885666)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:14 PM
Author: Lascivious immigrant public bath

city [size]?

what's the highest associate salary?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885672)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:17 PM
Author: razzle amethyst property giraffe

SF

No idea about salaries. There are "of counsel" and "senior counsel" that probably make more than partners because of their clients and just don't have any interest in being a partner...but not 100% sure.

I make $200k, and between origination and hours will get like a $50-70k bonus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885680)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 7:35 PM
Author: Balding selfie

(episode on The Practice)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#23274292)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:22 PM
Author: Ocher dashing generalized bond place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885700)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:23 PM
Author: razzle amethyst property giraffe

well, TBF, this is a smaller firm. at the big firms they are making many multiples of this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885710)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:24 PM
Author: Ocher dashing generalized bond place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885712)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:29 PM
Author: razzle amethyst property giraffe

no, i'm 05'.

probably will be more like $250k.

at my old firm this year I would have made like $340k if I had stayed, so it isn't as exciting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885734)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:30 PM
Author: Twisted Mischievous Menage Cuckold

Class of the year 500-something? You're way under paid, brej. Should also probably specialize in vampire law or Highlander law, depending on how you've managed to live for the past 1500 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885743)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:33 PM
Author: razzle amethyst property giraffe

2005?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885754)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:34 PM
Author: Twisted Mischievous Menage Cuckold

I was just fucking with you bro, because you typed 05' instead of '05.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885756)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 7:45 PM
Author: Adventurous Erotic Turdskin

(Guy who changed his poast to avoid "The Game")

(Methos)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#23274369)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 7:45 PM
Author: Adventurous Erotic Turdskin

tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#23274366)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:38 PM
Author: insecure national

375 is a lot more than 200

you have to realize that there is some amount that's required you to get over the hump of a upper middle class lifestyle (rent/mortgage on a nice place, car, food, kids, vacations, whatever), and anything on top of that is discretionary spending. so let's say for arguments sake that amount is 100k.

200k is only 100k+ more than that (60k after taxes aka an extra 5k a month), but $375k is 150k+ after taxes (aka an extra 12k a month). +7k a month discretionary income is a lot of extra money. that's a super nice vacation every month

at $200k you still care about purchases in the several hundred dollar range

at $375 you can afford to not give a shit about most expenses until they are over a few k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885781)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:46 PM
Author: Ocher dashing generalized bond place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885827)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:48 PM
Author: razzle amethyst property giraffe

man, this is depressing. I should just go back to my old firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885835)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:55 PM
Author: insecure national

nah, money aint everything bro. if you have no loans 250k is a lot of of money. the above poaster is right in that 375k aint fuck you rich by any means, so it's mostly just buying additional shit you probably dont really need

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885873)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:57 PM
Author: razzle amethyst property giraffe

yeah. It is more that I'd like to save some more. Definitely don't care about buying more stuff. I have a family.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885881)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:58 PM
Author: insecure national

what's your top line expenses/savings like now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885891)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 9:02 PM
Author: razzle amethyst property giraffe

with wife, like $2.5k into the 401k and $4k in after tax savings per month, plus saving the $50k bonus (so like another $30k).

if my wife didn't work we'd be losing money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885917)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 9:17 PM
Author: insecure national

oh you save a shitload then bro. what are you worried about

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22886059)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 9:19 PM
Author: razzle amethyst property giraffe

I would save another $60k a year...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22886077)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:52 PM
Author: aquamarine submissive step-uncle's house electric furnace

motherfuck yeah it's a lot more than 200

your breakdown shows it, but it doesn't demonstrate it sufficiently.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885856)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:57 PM
Author: insecure national

how else would you put it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885878)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 9:04 PM
Author: aquamarine submissive step-uncle's house electric furnace

you can live the same lifestyle and retire at 45 at 375k or at 65 at 200k

with the same lifestyle after retirement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885934)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 9:01 PM
Author: swashbuckling chapel messiness

agree with this in theory but i would argue in a really high COL area like SF, you need at least $350-400k combined to have that upper middle class lifestyle and comfortably afford your $1800-M mortgage, cars, kids, 2 vacays/year, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885912)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 9:08 PM
Author: Lime mother

wtf can u get on an $1800 a month mortgage? a closet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885976)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 9:09 PM
Author: swashbuckling chapel messiness

lol typo, meant $800k-$1M mortgage.

for $1800/mo you can prob get a studio in the tenderloin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885988)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 9:19 PM
Author: insecure national

yeah 100k definitely does not apply to SF/MFH. then again a 'minimum' of 400k is pretty unreasonable too. you can be pretty happy on 250k in sf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22886070)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:48 PM
Author: Duck-like dopamine headpube

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885839)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:51 PM
Author: Ocher dashing generalized bond place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885852)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:58 PM
Author: Duck-like dopamine headpube

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885889)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:40 PM
Author: Mint brunch azn

not to rain on your parade, but many doc systems have "history" lists of people who view/edit the document, so be careful breh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885796)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:41 PM
Author: Twisted Mischievous Menage Cuckold

true story.

A dood I work with went out on vacation and had another associate take care of closing a deal while he was gone. closing got all fucked up, and my buddy was taking a lot of heat. he manned up and took it, but was surprised because he spent a lot of time making sure everything was perfect and ready to go. so he checks the document history of a few keys docs and sees that the other associate edited them after the closing to cover her fuck up. needless to say, shit rained down on the other associate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885801)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 9:01 PM
Author: Lascivious immigrant public bath

wtf was the associate thinking when she tried to cover her fuck up? how would that have worked exactly if the closing already got fucked up?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885913)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 9:02 PM
Author: Twisted Mischievous Menage Cuckold

she changed the documents to make it look like my buddy fucked something up on a checklist and some related docs, which in turn caused the closing to go wrong.

in reality, she fucked everything up and had she followed my buddy's docs, everything would have been fine.

she's a worthless cunt that is somehow still at the firm. I avoid her at all costs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885922)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 9:06 PM
Author: Lascivious immigrant public bath

just LOL. care to explain what actually got fucked up at closing? did some bro just sign the wrong doc or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885945)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:43 PM
Author: razzle amethyst property giraffe

yeah. not sure how I can be blamed for looking at it when it is on the system.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885809)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:58 PM
Author: Turquoise effete pistol

"yeah, not sure how i can get blamed for something that is objectively reasonable and not indicative of any fault on my part"

sup bro who's never worked in a large law firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885888)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 9:02 PM
Author: bateful station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885920)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 9:10 PM
Author: Blue flatulent chad parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885999)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 8:34 PM
Author: Chartreuse Range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#23129474)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 7:30 PM
Author: massive hateful set fortuitous meteor

Not just law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#23274250)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:55 PM
Author: Bronze motley home stock car

You should delete the document to be safe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885871)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:56 PM
Author: insecure national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885875)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 9:09 PM
Author: Lime mother



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885980)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 9:15 PM
Author: Titillating Indigo Therapy International Law Enforcement Agency

At the risk of sounding beta, you probably want to let someone know it's up there. I know someone who got canned for being in exactly your situation (viewing a sensitive document that someone failed to protect and then didn't say anything)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22886038)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 10:45 PM
Author: jet organic girlfriend travel guidebook

Relatedly, have you ever looked at your own docs to see who has been in yours? Usually they are just looking for precedent materials, but it was kinda creepy to see all kinds of people in my shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#23130210)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:44 PM
Author: hairraiser windowlicker jap

250K in SF = what in Low COL ARE country? 40k-50k?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885812)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 9:05 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone pisswyrm plaza

seems perfectly reasonable. what did you think it would be?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885937)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 9:09 PM
Author: razzle amethyst property giraffe

this is what I expected. just more surprised that they have it in an unlocked document on the system.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885989)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 9:12 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone pisswyrm plaza

maybe there's a secret multiplier, like 0.5, and they really only make half of that, and they just leave it there so associates stay thinking they will make more money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22886011)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 9:06 PM
Author: Sable dysfunction

did you add yourself to the spread sheet as a partner yet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885952)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 9:09 PM
Author: razzle amethyst property giraffe

yes. I gave myself $800k. That is reasonable, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885983)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 9:10 PM
Author: Sable dysfunction

good thinking

that way, even if someone looks at it and thinks something is wrong, they won't make a stink.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885994)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 9:11 PM
Author: razzle amethyst property giraffe

it was actually $798,586. That looked more "real".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22886004)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 9:08 PM
Author: Blathering roast beef

What's unreasonable about any of this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885968)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 9:10 PM
Author: Emerald sickened stain

Lot of spreadsheets being discovered lately.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2214585&forum_id=2#22885996)