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Prior to the sexual revolution society was custom built so dudes like Charles

could be happy and prosper. Now? Not so much.
cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference
  03/22/18
Yeah, now women have choice.
Cerebral forum mexican
  03/22/18
Big mistake.
cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference
  03/22/18
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adventurous lay
  03/22/18
I used to think this. But now I think third-wave feminism i...
arousing half-breed
  03/22/18
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misunderstood boyish point queen of the night
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diverse bawdyhouse
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Odious telephone hall
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the INSTANT women are given the slightest bit of say in the ...
Drab ladyboy brunch
  03/22/18
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razzle mad-dog skullcap orchestra pit
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Pontificating Abode
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cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference
  03/22/18
It's an observation I've often made myself. I am a man built...
Pontificating Abode
  03/22/18
In what way is Charles not doing well? Went to a credited UG...
hideous deranged principal's office
  03/22/18
He could be raising a 180 family alongside a thin, virtuous ...
cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference
  03/22/18
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supple french market
  03/22/18
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Odious telephone hall
  03/22/18
Haha mods
Vibrant Anal Location
  03/22/18
charles would make a terrible tranny
Ultramarine theater
  03/22/18
why do so many people post about how they feel sorry for cha...
Vivacious Azn
  03/22/18
I don't feel sorry for Charles, and wouldn't disrespect him ...
cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference
  03/22/18
seems awfully close to pity. not trying to pick on you eithe...
Vivacious Azn
  03/22/18
I'm using Charles as an example to illustrate seismic change...
cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference
  03/22/18
I don't really feel sorry for him so much. I feel sorry for...
adventurous lay
  03/22/18
Ljl no Charles would still be a bachelor, and probably a pri...
Razzmatazz pale sneaky criminal school
  03/22/18
I considered it strongly during UG but I don't think it's my...
Pontificating Abode
  03/22/18
Cr you’re better suited for monastic life
Razzmatazz pale sneaky criminal school
  03/22/18
Charles is exactly the kind of person who used to become a m...
Tan dog poop field
  03/22/18
*whittier settles in for his 18th hour of SCHOLARLY MONK SIM...
cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference
  03/22/18
Monks used to do cool shit like: (1) serve as advisors to...
Tan dog poop field
  03/22/18
Job role has been usurped by purple haired associate profess...
cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference
  03/22/18
I don't really desire to close off from the world. I enjoy b...
Pontificating Abode
  03/22/18
Did you read Anathem btw? Worth it! (involves monks, sorta)
cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference
  03/22/18
I've never read Stephenson, though I do have a copy of Crypt...
Pontificating Abode
  03/22/18
That's also good. And would seem up your alley given WW2 set...
cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference
  03/22/18
Anathem is his best book by far. I don't really like his ear...
motley senate
  03/22/18
I tend to agree, though I haven't read Reamde. The discussio...
cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference
  03/22/18
Neal is a Platomo irl
motley senate
  03/22/18
Makes sense. Anathem is essentially (heh no pun) an ode to n...
cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference
  03/22/18
Reamde is already dated and is pretty cheesy and low-rent co...
Mauve Spot
  03/22/18
Thanks. That's the sense I got from reviews. Shame.
cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference
  03/22/18
german monk who drinks beer all day
Salmon home
  03/22/18
monogamy and shame have held back the natural selection of o...
Apoplectic hot hominid lodge
  03/22/18
You predict accelerating dysgenics? Me too. Think we're gett...
cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference
  03/22/18
i'm pretty suspicious of monogamy myself. civilization bette...
Vivacious Azn
  03/22/18
there is no benefit. It is collective selfishness imposed b...
Apoplectic hot hominid lodge
  03/22/18
MY welfare wife
Vivacious Azn
  03/22/18
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arousing half-breed
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Swashbuckling clown
  03/22/18
(1) Charles isn’t unhappy (2) Charles could do fine with ...
Amethyst Trailer Park
  03/22/18
I've put a lot of effort into self-improvement over the past...
Pontificating Abode
  03/22/18
You just need to practice talking to women and physically es...
cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference
  03/22/18
I’d bet that there’s a “version of you” that would work a bi...
Amethyst Trailer Park
  03/22/18
bro just grow a beard, do some roids and start fucking these...
free-loading appetizing cruise ship haunted graveyard
  03/22/18
Still almost certain a beard would look awful on me.
Pontificating Abode
  03/22/18
There are a lot of ostentatiously single oxbridge catholics ...
razzle mad-dog skullcap orchestra pit
  03/22/18
The Don system worked great. Look at GH Hardy.
cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference
  03/22/18
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spectacular tanning salon useless brakes
  03/22/18
i feel for people like charles. although we're very differen...
diverse bawdyhouse
  03/22/18
cr his poast in that megathread where he said he would "...
adventurous lay
  03/22/18
Odd we don't see as many people who would die in a ditch for...
cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference
  03/22/18
I want to see smug atheist libs drafted into another world w...
adventurous lay
  03/22/18
War tends to weed out the best and the worst of men, leaving...
cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference
  03/22/18
i don't know if a draft is even possible in the US anymore. ...
Fishy idiot
  03/22/18
good point re: shitlibs. not just different points of view, ...
diverse bawdyhouse
  03/22/18
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZE6zy9IfZro/TIbKz000fAI/AAAAAAAAAA...
Fishy idiot
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference

could be happy and prosper. Now? Not so much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35662688)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: Cerebral forum mexican

Yeah, now women have choice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35662738)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 3:43 PM
Author: cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference

Big mistake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35662744)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 3:43 PM
Author: adventurous lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35662749)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 3:44 PM
Author: arousing half-breed

I used to think this. But now I think third-wave feminism is the apocalypse we deserve.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35662768)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 3:59 PM
Author: misunderstood boyish point queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35662903)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:11 PM
Author: diverse bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663000)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: spectacular tanning salon useless brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663083)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 7:22 PM
Author: Odious telephone hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35664541)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 3:44 PM
Author: Drab ladyboy brunch

the INSTANT women are given the slightest bit of say in the matter, they FLEE men like charles lol. sorry, charles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35662766)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:17 PM
Author: razzle mad-dog skullcap orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663043)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:19 PM
Author: Pontificating Abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663054)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663080)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 3:45 PM
Author: Pontificating Abode

It's an observation I've often made myself. I am a man built for the wrong age. There's some tragedy in that, but that's also just life. I'm not miserable about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35662772)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: hideous deranged principal's office

In what way is Charles not doing well? Went to a credited UG, copped a credited jerb, and gets to spend several hours a week pursing various hobbies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35662820)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 3:59 PM
Author: cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference

He could be raising a 180 family alongside a thin, virtuous woman who shares his values, in the context of positive engagement with a wider community embedding such values in its culture, mores, and even genetics.

Instead, he is caught up in debates about whether you should just do lick message a Tinder slore, go tranny, or take the Benedictine option.

That said, I'm sensitive to the possibility I'm a hopeless idealist, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35662900)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:01 PM
Author: supple french market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35662924)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 7:23 PM
Author: Odious telephone hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35664550)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 7:45 PM
Author: Vibrant Anal Location

Haha mods

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35664722)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 8:56 PM
Author: Ultramarine theater

charles would make a terrible tranny

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35665193)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: Vivacious Azn

why do so many people post about how they feel sorry for charles? i'm sure if charles really wanted a serious relationship with a quality woman, he would take the steps to make it happen. he seems perfectly capable of handling it himself. he doesn't need anyone's pity

the truth is that he probably enjoys life a lot more as a single man than he would with a serious relationship with a woman, and that's why he doesn't have one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35662965)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:06 PM
Author: cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference

I don't feel sorry for Charles, and wouldn't disrespect him with pity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35662971)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:10 PM
Author: Vivacious Azn

seems awfully close to pity. not trying to pick on you either, other people post similar sentiments all the time



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35662990)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:14 PM
Author: cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference

I'm using Charles as an example to illustrate seismic changes to society.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663021)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:12 PM
Author: adventurous lay

I don't really feel sorry for him so much.

I feel sorry for the world he is forced to inhabit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663003)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:13 PM
Author: Razzmatazz pale sneaky criminal school

Ljl no Charles would still be a bachelor, and probably a priest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663010)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:13 PM
Author: Pontificating Abode

I considered it strongly during UG but I don't think it's my vocation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663014)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:15 PM
Author: Razzmatazz pale sneaky criminal school

Cr you’re better suited for monastic life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663024)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:17 PM
Author: Tan dog poop field

Charles is exactly the kind of person who used to become a monk. Nowadays I don't think monkship is scholarly enough to attract his interest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663044)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference

*whittier settles in for his 18th hour of SCHOLARLY MONK SIMULATOR*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663053)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:20 PM
Author: Tan dog poop field

Monks used to do cool shit like:

(1) serve as advisors to kings

(2) be on the CUTTING EDGE of scholarship

(3) write historical chronicles that would go on to serve as important sources for future scholars

now they like sit around and pray in monasteries located in the outer suburbs. ljl.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663065)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference

Job role has been usurped by purple haired associate professors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663077)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:20 PM
Author: Pontificating Abode

I don't really desire to close off from the world. I enjoy being in the arena. If I were a 1500smo I'd be in the Jesuits, not the Benedictines.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663064)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference

Did you read Anathem btw? Worth it! (involves monks, sorta)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663069)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: Pontificating Abode

I've never read Stephenson, though I do have a copy of Cryptonomicon lying around.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663084)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference

That's also good. And would seem up your alley given WW2 setting of part of it, though you may find the codebreaking parts boring and some anachronisms jarring.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663091)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 7:33 PM
Author: motley senate

Anathem is his best book by far. I don't really like his earlier stuff at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35664620)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 7:40 PM
Author: cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference

I tend to agree, though I haven't read Reamde. The discussion of Platonism, the Penrose tiling (teglon), the kung-fu: book has it all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35664683)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 7:41 PM
Author: motley senate

Neal is a Platomo irl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35664690)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 7:48 PM
Author: cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference

Makes sense. Anathem is essentially (heh no pun) an ode to neo-Platonism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35664742)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 7:45 PM
Author: Mauve Spot

Reamde is already dated and is pretty cheesy and low-rent compared to his other novels.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35664718)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 7:48 PM
Author: cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference

Thanks. That's the sense I got from reviews. Shame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35664747)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 7:49 PM
Author: Salmon home

german monk who drinks beer all day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35664759)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:15 PM
Author: Apoplectic hot hominid lodge

monogamy and shame have held back the natural selection of our species.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663025)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference

You predict accelerating dysgenics? Me too. Think we're getting superbabies right under the wire.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663035)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: Vivacious Azn

i'm pretty suspicious of monogamy myself. civilization better be getting some pretty big benefits in return for letting all the shitty males breed in massive numbers

i'm not seeing it. we don't need them for slave labor anymore and we don't need them for wars. monogamy seems like outdated social technology in the NEW REALITY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663072)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: Apoplectic hot hominid lodge

there is no benefit. It is collective selfishness imposed by the bottom 90% of a species that is smart enough to fabricate the concept that there is a mate for every person, that women should not seek better mates, and that by use of majority oppression the bottom 90% are able to collectively enforce these norms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663092)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:26 PM
Author: Vivacious Azn

MY welfare wife

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663106)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: arousing half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663112)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 8:46 PM
Author: Swashbuckling clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35665127)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: Amethyst Trailer Park

(1) Charles isn’t unhappy

(2) Charles could do fine with women if he was willing to put more effort into it

(3) I think he’ll change a bit on this front when he gets a little older

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663041)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: Pontificating Abode

I've put a lot of effort into self-improvement over the past few years, which could conceivably help me on that front. Generally though the specific changes recommended to "do fine with women" involve things I consider unpleasant, humiliating, or simply unacceptable (like dramatically changing my personality).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663076)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference

You just need to practice talking to women and physically escalating. That's it. No seismic shifts necessary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663098)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:26 PM
Author: Amethyst Trailer Park

I’d bet that there’s a “version of you” that would work a bit better with females that wouldn’t be a complete overhaul of your personality and you’ll find it. In the meantime, just enjoy life (which you’re already doing).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663108)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: free-loading appetizing cruise ship haunted graveyard

bro just grow a beard, do some roids and start fucking these hoes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663167)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 8:56 PM
Author: Pontificating Abode

Still almost certain a beard would look awful on me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35665200)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: razzle mad-dog skullcap orchestra pit

There are a lot of ostentatiously single oxbridge catholics like Charles... and they fuck teenage boys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663051)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:19 PM
Author: cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference

The Don system worked great. Look at GH Hardy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663058)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: spectacular tanning salon useless brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663087)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: diverse bawdyhouse

i feel for people like charles. although we're very different people, i find his ability to keep fighting for the things he cares about to be admirable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663095)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:26 PM
Author: adventurous lay

cr his poast in that megathread where he said he would "die in a ditch" defending his values was inspiring

more people should be like that

shitlibs think they are like this, but they really have no actual values to defend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663107)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:28 PM
Author: cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference

Odd we don't see as many people who would die in a ditch for their values after all those wars where people died in ditches.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663121)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:30 PM
Author: adventurous lay

I want to see smug atheist libs drafted into another world war and find out how strong their godless convictions really are in foxholes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663139)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:31 PM
Author: cerise self-centered corn cake athletic conference

War tends to weed out the best and the worst of men, leaving the insipid masses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663149)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Fishy idiot

i don't know if a draft is even possible in the US anymore. i think we'd see mass noncompliance, splitting along racial/ethnic lines, potentially sparking a civil war in the US itself. local cops would stop trying to enforce draft orders after enough of them got killed doing so, which means the military itself would have to do it, which would be a mess.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663179)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:36 PM
Author: diverse bawdyhouse

good point re: shitlibs. not just different points of view, but different motivations entirely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925790&forum_id=2#35663182)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Fishy idiot

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