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Sure, it is hard to say anything is "wrong" in our...
copper weed whacker
  05/29/13
this is actually some 180 scholarship. there is nothing as h...
Bistre Concupiscible Address
  05/29/13
"what ever happened to the eugenics movement?" ...
talented azure church macaca
  05/29/13
"most things people scoff at as backwards religious non...
Bronze meetinghouse
  05/29/13
OP wants to securalize religious prohibitions wtf no is goin...
Passionate community account
  11/21/14
kind of cherry picking there bro
multi-colored public bath
  05/29/13
I feel like I've covered a lot of the big ones that people t...
copper weed whacker
  05/29/13
invariably any defense of backwards religious shit will invo...
rose effete mediation crackhouse
  05/29/13
a lot of your basis comes from the opinion that the nuclear ...
Cerebral Friendly Grandma Spot
  05/29/13
every study ever shows that children have the best life outc...
copper weed whacker
  05/29/13
CR.
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  05/29/13
I don't disagree with you that social conservatism is probab...
Cerebral Friendly Grandma Spot
  05/29/13
(huffpo commenter)
stirring topaz shrine
  05/29/13
I'm a Republican and all I'm talking about are current socie...
Cerebral Friendly Grandma Spot
  05/29/13
in the past, it's always been easy to "live 50's",...
Tantric locale
  05/29/13
"every study ever shows that children have the best lif...
supple sepia jewess selfie
  05/29/13
what's so funny?
copper weed whacker
  06/30/13
Neither Clinton nor Obama were raised by both of their biolo...
Vibrant Startling Volcanic Crater
  06/30/13
http://www.harvard-jlpp.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Georg...
copper weed whacker
  06/30/13
Of course there's some benefit to nofap and not fornicating ...
razzle office
  05/29/13
Religion is bullshit, but I tend to agree with you. Anoth...
snowy marvelous personal credit line
  05/29/13
yep, credited. a day off without doing anything -- no blackb...
copper weed whacker
  05/29/13
CR. The only problem is that somehow this really good idea t...
snowy marvelous personal credit line
  05/29/13
going to church or something similar on the sabbath doesn't ...
copper weed whacker
  05/29/13
I would agree that it would be good to have a day dedicated ...
snowy marvelous personal credit line
  05/29/13
just do Quaker meeting house bro
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  11/21/14
And pre-industrial rev and unions, you would farm every fuck...
metal vivacious hunting ground
  05/29/13
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Swollen obsidian pocket flask
  05/29/13
it turns out wearing clothes made of two different fabrics a...
Embarrassed To The Bone Boyish Tattoo Puppy
  05/29/13
tbf he said prudish
multi-colored public bath
  05/29/13
Enjoy your Under Armor shirts in hell, bro.
Vibrant Startling Volcanic Crater
  06/30/13
the way of life we threw over with Christianity, represented...
hairraiser plaza
  05/29/13
Wonder if you saw my post in that other thread this morning ...
metal vivacious hunting ground
  05/29/13
Funny I thought the impetus was that oh idk it was decreed b...
razzle office
  05/29/13
Maybe you have kind of an undeveloped sense of "God&quo...
metal vivacious hunting ground
  05/29/13
you are the opposite of done here
copper weed whacker
  05/29/13
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Contagious marketing idea
  08/17/13
No, they're literally in books that religion claims to be th...
razzle office
  05/29/13
hey bro I love America and you don't have to come to church,...
metal vivacious hunting ground
  05/29/13
I didn't say it was a vocal box, but you're gonna have to ex...
razzle office
  05/29/13
It's not scripture, which is what youre talking about, but t...
metal vivacious hunting ground
  05/29/13
Are you saying then that I should accept the values of all t...
razzle office
  05/29/13
see op's point man. op wrote that the moral code of god-cent...
metal vivacious hunting ground
  05/29/13
Well I'm saying there's a million dudes out there with the s...
razzle office
  05/29/13
your post was the impetus for the thread. everything you sai...
copper weed whacker
  05/29/13
just be stoic, bro.
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  05/29/13
shitlibs ur done here
stirring topaz shrine
  05/29/13
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stirring topaz shrine
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find a new board faggots
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stirring topaz shrine
  06/30/13
persuasive as FUUUUUCK
Soul-stirring Disturbing Area Pisswyrm
  05/29/13
fap once a day >>> nofap
Electric Hominid Den
  05/29/13
What a bunch of horseshit.
Disgusting galvanic son of senegal
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good point bro
copper weed whacker
  05/29/13
libtard's got nothing. he's got NOTHING
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"I could go on" please do
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I agree, actually. I think Nietzsche was right re religious ...
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Then license reigns and people rediscover the reason for the...
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  06/30/13
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big demanding dysfunction boistinker
  06/30/13
I've come to a similar conclusion myself recently. Used to r...
Beady-eyed skinny woman
  05/29/13
just finished fapping, man i'm reguvenated.
Pontificating Hell Giraffe
  05/29/13
ITT: A demonstration of how the young shitlib mind evolves i...
stirring topaz shrine
  05/29/13
180. Personally, I've tried to take this a step further. ...
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  05/29/13
The problem, I think, is the obvious hypocrisy espoused by t...
Beady-eyed skinny woman
  05/29/13
this is retarded. a fundamental tenet of most religions is t...
stirring topaz shrine
  05/29/13
there's always bad in good, we are human. i am espousing an ...
onyx exciting newt old irish cottage
  05/29/13
I really like your post and daresay that in Judeo-Christiani...
metal vivacious hunting ground
  05/29/13
I'm with you brother.
copper weed whacker
  05/29/13
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copper weed whacker
  06/03/13
(guy who blithely ignores half the population)
Mind-boggling Sweet Tailpipe
  06/03/13
what are you getting at?
copper weed whacker
  06/03/13
...
copper weed whacker
  06/04/13
Still don't understand this.
copper weed whacker
  06/30/13
Religion oppresses womyn. In order to address women's con...
odious bright rigpig round eye
  06/30/13
jesus doods killing it ITT
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metal vivacious hunting ground
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It is all the free rider problem. Society would be better a...
Diverse bull headed state wagecucks
  06/30/13
Is it possible that despite your strong urge to sleep with a...
copper weed whacker
  06/30/13
I married a virtuous woman who wanted kids the first time ar...
Diverse bull headed state wagecucks
  06/30/13
Fair enough. I'm just glad you are happy.
copper weed whacker
  06/30/13
180
stirring topaz shrine
  06/30/13
East Asian cultures were able to develop rules with the logi...
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  06/30/13
are you surprised god's wisdom is practical, common sense th...
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make no mistake about it, it eventually became every bit as ...
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you're a literal retard. trying to defend catholic dogma on ...
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(dude who still thinks population growth is a big problem) l...
copper weed whacker
  06/30/13
we all think population growth is a big problem. stop laughi...
Carnelian fragrant genital piercing french chef
  07/03/13
It is going to level off or decline soon enough bro.
copper weed whacker
  07/03/13
not without illegal measures.
Carnelian fragrant genital piercing french chef
  07/03/13
are you really this fucking stupid?
sable charismatic menage
  07/08/13
the Bible and other such books should be a living document, ...
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  06/30/13
good thread on monogamy here: http://www.xoxohth.com/thread....
copper weed whacker
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Adventurous potus
  08/17/13
bro, technology has undermined the economic underpinnings of...
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(faggot who loves traditional values but uses "CR"...
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copper weed whacker
  11/21/14
You slayed libs itt. Can you bring titular head back sometim...
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  11/21/14
cr OP. also cf. Claude Levi-Strauss, Savage Mind as to why ...
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Date: May 29th, 2013 1:43 PM
Author: copper weed whacker

Sure, it is hard to say anything is "wrong" in our relativist postmodern world, but putting aside the question of right or wrong, most things people scoff at as backwards religious nonsense usually turn out to be good advice.

Masturbation is a classic example of this. The idea that masturbation is generally wrong is scoffed at as among the most ridiculous of religious ideas by chuckling hoards of superior redditors who then turn around and, in the same breath, evangelize the life-altering benefits of "nofap." Consuming pornography is a related example.

Other examples abound. Many religions suggest that fornication is wrong and, oh come on, how can it be wrong for two responsible adults who like each other to enjoy themselves getting off together? Yet, we have seen that widespread acceptance of fornication leads to an absolute social crisis of out-of-wedlock births, rampant sexually transmitted disease, and the disaster that is the hook-up culture and current fucked-up sexual marketplace that leaves everyone with a feeling of emptiness.

Many religions have a problem with certain forms of birth control and, oh my god, how could you be against condoms for HIV positive africans (or 14 year old american girls who have their whole lives in front of them and are too young to get knocked up!)??!!? Now witness the ill-effects, economic and cultural, of sub-replacement fertility in the enlightened western world.

I could go on. It is amazing how many things the supposedly barbaric superstitious religious cultures that preceded us got right that we now get wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291777)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 9:05 PM
Author: Bistre Concupiscible Address

this is actually some 180 scholarship. there is nothing as hilarious as those who would discard thousands of years of social evolution in favor of the oh-so-rational "scientific" fads of their generation. by the way, what ever happened to the eugenics movement?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23294680)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 9:54 PM
Author: talented azure church macaca

"what ever happened to the eugenics movement?"

uh, the Nazis ruined it for everyone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23294975)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 1:45 PM
Author: Bronze meetinghouse

"most things people scoff at as backwards religious nonsense usually turn out to be good advice"

stopped there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291785)



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Date: November 21st, 2014 8:52 PM
Author: Passionate community account

OP wants to securalize religious prohibitions wtf no is going to bear the stick without the juicy eternal life carrot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#26768278)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 1:46 PM
Author: multi-colored public bath

kind of cherry picking there bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291791)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 1:48 PM
Author: copper weed whacker

I feel like I've covered a lot of the big ones that people tend to ridicule.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291807)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 10:07 PM
Author: rose effete mediation crackhouse

invariably any defense of backwards religious shit will involve cherry picking the good bits and ignoring the bad ones.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23295054)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 1:50 PM
Author: Cerebral Friendly Grandma Spot

a lot of your basis comes from the opinion that the nuclear family is the best family unit; in the future society may not agree with that at all. you are already seeing major changes in family structures, more singles, more single mothers, more female breadwinners, blended families and lgbt families.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291819)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 1:52 PM
Author: copper weed whacker

every study ever shows that children have the best life outcomes when raised by their two biological parents. this holds consistent when controlling for all kinds of socioeconomic variables. You haven't identified an underlying assumption, just another thing traditional religious society was right about and enlightened modern shitlibs are wrong about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291827)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 1:53 PM
Author: snowy marvelous personal credit line

CR.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291830)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 1:55 PM
Author: Cerebral Friendly Grandma Spot

I don't disagree with you that social conservatism is probably the best option, it's that society is rejecting it wholesale and will replace social conservatism with individualism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291836)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:08 PM
Author: stirring topaz shrine

(huffpo commenter)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291904)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:12 PM
Author: Cerebral Friendly Grandma Spot

I'm a Republican and all I'm talking about are current societal trends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291927)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:00 PM
Author: Tantric locale

in the past, it's always been easy to "live 50's", that is maintain pretty traditional values while being open-minded and letting others do as they please -- because the others were far away and never really interfered with our lives. now the non-traditional people are becoming more common and trying to push their ways more broadly and are even suggesting they're no different from more traditional folks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291864)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 7:28 PM
Author: supple sepia jewess selfie

"every study ever shows that children have the best life outcomes when raised by their two biological parents."

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23294071)



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Date: June 30th, 2013 1:32 PM
Author: copper weed whacker

what's so funny?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23508302)



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Date: June 30th, 2013 1:55 PM
Author: Vibrant Startling Volcanic Crater

Neither Clinton nor Obama were raised by both of their biological parents. I'm not saying this disproves your theory, just pointing this out.

I would like to see you point to some scholarship which backs up your assertion that the two biological parent thing holds true controlling for SES variables.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23508436)



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Date: June 30th, 2013 2:04 PM
Author: copper weed whacker

http://www.harvard-jlpp.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/GeorgeFinal.pdf

Start on the last paragraph of page 257 and end at the top of 259. The footnotes to that section include links to relevant scholarship.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23508492)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 1:54 PM
Author: razzle office

Of course there's some benefit to nofap and not fornicating etc, for many. But religion doesn't just advise one against sin, it commands adherence to the rules.

If you value enforced moral order higher than freedom, the Saudis might let you live there.

Further, you might want to look at the downsides of a positively repressed society. Might not be as happy as you think, married to and as a virgin, popping out as many kids as God wills.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291832)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 1:54 PM
Author: snowy marvelous personal credit line

Religion is bullshit, but I tend to agree with you.

Another example is the Sabbath. It's clear that having a day off is very good for your mental health.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291833)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 1:55 PM
Author: copper weed whacker

yep, credited. a day off without doing anything -- no blackberry checking, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291842)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 1:59 PM
Author: snowy marvelous personal credit line

CR. The only problem is that somehow this really good idea turns into having other, equally shitty responsibilities, like going to church.

If you take religious ideas, but take god out of them, you come up with a decent system for ordering society. This isn't always true, and there are some plain stupid ideas in religion, but we have def. thrown the baby out with the bathwater in our attempt to dislodge ourselves of religiosity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291859)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:33 PM
Author: copper weed whacker

going to church or something similar on the sabbath doesn't seem like such a bad idea either. I mean, maybe not the way modern churches operate ... but the idea of everyone in the community, from different social circles and different classes etc., coming together once a week to greet each other, sing some songs, and reflect on the bigger picture in life, seems pretty CR to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23292017)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:35 PM
Author: snowy marvelous personal credit line

I would agree that it would be good to have a day dedicated to the above, but it runs counter to the idea of a real "day of rest". If you have to get up early and get dressed to do it, it's a job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23292029)



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Date: November 21st, 2014 8:36 PM
Author: Adulterous mad-dog skullcap new version

just do Quaker meeting house bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#26768186)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:38 PM
Author: metal vivacious hunting ground

And pre-industrial rev and unions, you would farm every fucking day, wouldnt you? So drawing the lines around one day as non-labor seems pretty inspired.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23292039)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 1:55 PM
Author: Swollen obsidian pocket flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291837)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 1:57 PM
Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Boyish Tattoo Puppy

it turns out wearing clothes made of two different fabrics actually is detrimental to a human soul

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291851)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 1:59 PM
Author: multi-colored public bath

tbf he said prudish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291863)



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Date: June 30th, 2013 1:55 PM
Author: Vibrant Startling Volcanic Crater

Enjoy your Under Armor shirts in hell, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23508441)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:01 PM
Author: hairraiser plaza

the way of life we threw over with Christianity, represented the accumulated, time-tested wisdom of a thousand generations.

what did we replace it with? artificial social arrangements wherein whorish "hypergamous" women try pathetically to act like men, moral decline, rampant institutionalized sociopathy (see Lasch's "Culture of Narcissism"), etc.

too "enlightened" for our own good, i would say.

(God save the queen.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291868)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:02 PM
Author: metal vivacious hunting ground

Wonder if you saw my post in that other thread this morning re: masturbation and nofap, or if we just both think alike.

Some Catholic academics bemoan "theology of the crotch", and that's a good term for it, because 90% of resistance to Catholic (and I suppose evangelical) moral teaching focuses on crotch-related topics. The irony is, of course, that the impetus behind prohibitions against masturbation, promiscuity, abortion, etc. is the belief that self-discipline in these matters is both better for the community as a whole, as well as tending to lead towards greater human freedom and happiness as a person.

And I think this belief can be fairly well defended, with no reference to God or an afterlife.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291874)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:12 PM
Author: razzle office

Funny I thought the impetus was that oh idk it was decreed by God himself.

No one taken seriously has any big issue with advising anyone to have self control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291928)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:16 PM
Author: metal vivacious hunting ground

Maybe you have kind of an undeveloped sense of "God" and God decreeing stuff. So long as you think of it as a physical dude in the clouds whose voice Moses could literally just listen to, etc., then yeah, your point stands.

But a more nuanced view might hold that God's decrees are found and understood through prayerful consideration of nature, the human heart, human experience, centuries of tradition and story telling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291957)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:18 PM
Author: copper weed whacker

you are the opposite of done here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291962)



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Date: August 17th, 2013 12:56 PM
Author: Contagious marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23858197)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:22 PM
Author: razzle office

No, they're literally in books that religion claims to be the word of God.

Now that doesn't mean one can't also get to similar conclusions via simple thought. But that's just the self-help section of Barnes and Noble.

If they didn't command it as divine decree, and instead advised it by proclaiming its tangible benefits, that's fine. That doesn't take away freedom like religion does. I value freedom higher than forcedly moral society. Is that cool, breh? This is America, the POTUS of all countries ever and it was founded on such principles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291977)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:27 PM
Author: metal vivacious hunting ground

hey bro I love America and you don't have to come to church, ever, so we're cool.

My point is that for adult believers, there can be some sophistication to the idea of "the word of God", and it can be understood in a way other than literal dictation from a God with a mouth and vocal box speaking directly to his robotic secretary with a quill and some blank bible pages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291993)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:32 PM
Author: razzle office

I didn't say it was a vocal box, but you're gonna have to explain to me how the abrahmic god only sorta gave his word to man. Because the foundation of those religions is that he literally sent down his infallible word. It wasn't a dude just saying 'hey maybe don't beat off always', it was god, calling it a sin, promising hell fire and requiring salvation.

I'm fine with using religious inspired values as a guide, but it becomes problematic when those values become enforced on others, breh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23292013)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:35 PM
Author: metal vivacious hunting ground

It's not scripture, which is what youre talking about, but there's a great line in shaw's play about St. Joan of Arc.

Someone's calling her crazy, telling her the God she adores and whose voice she hears (and follows to her death) is just her imagination.

She says something like, no shit motherfucker, where else would God speak to me but in imagination?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23292026)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:41 PM
Author: razzle office

Are you saying then that I should accept the values of all those who claim to speak with God? Idk what you're getting at.

I'm saying we should evaluate values on their merits, and be wary of enforcing values as that generally limits one's freedom, which as an American I hold in extremely high regard as far as values go.

You seem to be suggesting that not only are religious values 'right', they ought to be somehow enforced. Perhaps I'm reading too much into what you're saying, but otherwise you're no different from a million self help authors with a spiritual non religious bent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23292057)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 3:02 PM
Author: metal vivacious hunting ground

see op's point man. op wrote that the moral code of god-centered religion proves to be useful and good even when evaluated without reference to god or religion. dunno where you shifted into defending yourself against theocracy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23292230)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 3:08 PM
Author: razzle office

Well I'm saying there's a million dudes out there with the same ideas as religion but they're not commanding it and forcing it on society. So if he's saying 'hey Christianity etc didn't get it All wrong! "I'd say no shit, sherlock. Everyone loves the golden rule.

Perhaps I don't see his point but the OP sure reads like he wishes everyone else shared his values and the only way to do that is theocracy, no? How else to stamp out unorthodox views and lifestyles?

Fact is, even the non religious appreciate not being totally promiscuous or jerking off all the time and having a strong nuclear family. We just aren't keen on enforcing those values and prefer to give people the freedom to choose them or not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23292270)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:16 PM
Author: copper weed whacker

your post was the impetus for the thread. everything you said above is also cr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291952)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:07 PM
Author: High-end rehab queen of the night

just be stoic, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291902)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:08 PM
Author: stirring topaz shrine

shitlibs ur done here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291906)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 8:42 PM
Author: stirring topaz shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23294562)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 10:30 PM
Author: Orchid anal resort

find a new board faggots

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23295229)



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Date: June 30th, 2013 1:59 PM
Author: stirring topaz shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23508463)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:13 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Disturbing Area Pisswyrm

persuasive as FUUUUUCK

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291934)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:14 PM
Author: Electric Hominid Den

fap once a day >>> nofap

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23291937)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:33 PM
Author: Disgusting galvanic son of senegal

What a bunch of horseshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23292016)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 3:00 PM
Author: copper weed whacker

good point bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23292209)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 10:19 PM
Author: Orchid anal resort

libtard's got nothing. he's got NOTHING

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23295119)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:51 PM
Author: chartreuse bawdyhouse sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23292130)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 7:11 PM
Author: Adventurous potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23293985)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 7:13 PM
Author: thriller deranged stain half-breed

"I could go on"

please do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23293998)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 9:44 PM
Author: big demanding dysfunction boistinker

I agree, actually. I think Nietzsche was right re religious commandments. The problem is that over time people start to obey the religious commandments ONLY out of obedience, and they forget the real, pragmatic reasons behind the commandments. Then when they abandon the religion, that reason drops out, and the moral rules seem irrational and arbitrary. But that may not be true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23294909)



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Date: June 30th, 2013 2:44 PM
Author: odious bright rigpig round eye

Then license reigns and people rediscover the reason for the season. It's a dialectical process.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23508787)



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Date: June 30th, 2013 3:24 PM
Author: big demanding dysfunction boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23509095)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 9:46 PM
Author: Beady-eyed skinny woman

I've come to a similar conclusion myself recently. Used to resent this as complete bullshit nonsense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23294922)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 10:02 PM
Author: Pontificating Hell Giraffe

just finished fapping, man i'm reguvenated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23295028)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 10:04 PM
Author: stirring topaz shrine

ITT: A demonstration of how the young shitlib mind evolves into that of a conservahero.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23295042)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 10:15 PM
Author: onyx exciting newt old irish cottage

180.

Personally, I've tried to take this a step further. If the rules generally help, why not incorporate the spiritual aspect for the same reasons? Does faith, hope, charity improve your character? your life? I'd say it does. Our generation, unfortunately, has to discover religious backwards, we have to see the good effects and work back to the reason. In the past, the reason was given/forced on us, and the effects were felt without understanding.

The Greeks had a similar experience especially regarding birthrates.

EDIT: by the way, 5 months NO FAP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23295093)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 10:16 PM
Author: Beady-eyed skinny woman

The problem, I think, is the obvious hypocrisy espoused by those who are "religious."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23295103)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 10:23 PM
Author: stirring topaz shrine

this is retarded. a fundamental tenet of most religions is to not judge. people are error prone, shitlib.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23295147)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 10:31 PM
Author: onyx exciting newt old irish cottage

there's always bad in good, we are human. i am espousing an ideal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23295233)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 10:31 PM
Author: metal vivacious hunting ground

I really like your post and daresay that in Judeo-Christianity the iconic figures were in much the same position as you. The prophets doubted like motherfuckers. Jesus of Nazareth was wracked with doubt. Even their mythic heros like Jacob or Job were celebrated mostly because in the face of complete doubt and cynicism, they somehow chose to attempt some act of faith.

I think a common atheist misconception of faith is that it is a complete intellectual assent to a quasi-scientific principle. Better understood, mature faith is recognizing youre impossibly limited and flawed, and have no assurances that faith isnt a perverse, expensive joke, but still somehow desire to, at the very least, make an effort towards believing. Mark 9:24, father of the dead kid can only say "I do believe; help me overcome my disbelief."

Contemporary examples would include Mother Teresa, who purportedly felt nothing but an absence of God for the last decades of her life, but soldiered on, trying to live as if she had faith, hope and charity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23295241)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 10:32 PM
Author: copper weed whacker

I'm with you brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23295261)



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Date: June 3rd, 2013 10:12 AM
Author: copper weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23322201)



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Date: June 3rd, 2013 10:15 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Sweet Tailpipe

(guy who blithely ignores half the population)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23322214)



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Date: June 3rd, 2013 10:15 AM
Author: copper weed whacker

what are you getting at?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23322215)



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Date: June 4th, 2013 2:45 PM
Author: copper weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23329390)



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Date: June 30th, 2013 1:13 PM
Author: copper weed whacker

Still don't understand this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23508169)



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Date: June 30th, 2013 2:48 PM
Author: odious bright rigpig round eye

Religion oppresses womyn.

In order to address women's concerns the messenger must be female.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23508813)



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Date: June 30th, 2013 1:31 PM
Author: Insane cocky station

jesus doods killing it ITT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23508291)



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Date: July 8th, 2013 6:41 PM
Author: metal vivacious hunting ground



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23570634)



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Date: June 30th, 2013 1:33 PM
Author: Diverse bull headed state wagecucks

It is all the free rider problem. Society would be better as a whole with nuclear families, traditional gender roles, and enforced rules against promiscuity, but, for most individuals, that is simply not true. Everyone acts as they want and, as a result, society suffers. Basically I want to sleep with as many women as I want and never have to marry them or support any children. Not good for society (which would probably benefit from me in a nuclear family with well supported offspring), but it is what I want and there are limited societal consequences for doing so, so I do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23508310)



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Date: June 30th, 2013 1:40 PM
Author: copper weed whacker

Is it possible that despite your strong urge to sleep with a ton of women w/o children or commitment and the transient pleasure you reap from these encounters, you might ultimately find a deeper and warmer sort of happiness and fulfillment in committing to one virtuous woman and raising children with her? Maybe not, but historically many people have found such a life to be pretty credited.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23508359)



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Date: June 30th, 2013 1:47 PM
Author: Diverse bull headed state wagecucks

I married a virtuous woman who wanted kids the first time around and I was miserable. I hate to sound like a shitlib, but alternative lifestyles (in my case permanently single and childless) can be credited on the individual level.

Where I diverge with shitlibbery, is over societal acceptance. Not even ten years ago, eyebrows were raised when I brought the way to young and beautiful girl of the month I was fucking to a firm event (and a different one to the next). Now, no one cares. Gays bring their boy toys. Lesbians bring their way too old partners. Now, short of something illegal, I don't think anyone would object. Even if I showed up with a 16 year old, people would be like, isn't she precocious.

We were better when firm events were "spouses only" at the holiday (formerly Christmas) party and attorneys only for everything else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23508400)



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Date: June 30th, 2013 1:55 PM
Author: copper weed whacker

Fair enough. I'm just glad you are happy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23508439)



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Date: June 30th, 2013 1:59 PM
Author: stirring topaz shrine

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23508457)



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Date: June 30th, 2013 1:56 PM
Author: seedy razzmatazz kitty

East Asian cultures were able to develop rules with the logic behind these commandments without mixing it with religiosity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23508445)



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Date: June 30th, 2013 2:06 PM
Author: Vigorous milky clown kitchen

are you surprised god's wisdom is practical, common sense that works?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23508508)



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Date: June 30th, 2013 2:12 PM
Author: Amber slimy goal in life stage

make no mistake about it, it eventually became every bit as oppressive as religion did-on every aspect too.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23508546)



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Date: June 30th, 2013 2:08 PM
Author: sable charismatic menage

you're a literal retard. trying to defend catholic dogma on contraception because you think the world needs MORE people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23508517)



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Date: June 30th, 2013 2:51 PM
Author: copper weed whacker

(dude who still thinks population growth is a big problem) lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23508828)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 11:16 PM
Author: Carnelian fragrant genital piercing french chef

we all think population growth is a big problem. stop laughing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23542713)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 11:19 PM
Author: copper weed whacker

It is going to level off or decline soon enough bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23542723)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 11:20 PM
Author: Carnelian fragrant genital piercing french chef

not without illegal measures.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23542734)



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Date: July 8th, 2013 6:42 PM
Author: sable charismatic menage

are you really this fucking stupid?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23570642)



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Date: June 30th, 2013 2:09 PM
Author: Outnumbered amethyst center voyeur

the Bible and other such books should be a living document, but its not, and that is stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23508525)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 10:46 PM
Author: copper weed whacker

good thread on monogamy here: http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2300060&mc=13&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23542422)



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Date: July 8th, 2013 6:23 PM
Author: copper weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23570490)



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Date: August 17th, 2013 12:45 PM
Author: Adventurous potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23858154)



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Date: August 17th, 2013 1:19 PM
Author: Lake racy garrison boiling water

bro, technology has undermined the economic underpinnings of the old order. we couldn't go back if we wanted to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23858301)



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Date: August 17th, 2013 1:28 PM
Author: Titillating Domesticated Brethren

(faggot who loves traditional values but uses "CR" for credited)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#23858346)



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Date: November 21st, 2014 8:18 PM
Author: copper weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#26768058)



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Date: November 21st, 2014 8:45 PM
Author: nighttime trip box office

You slayed libs itt. Can you bring titular head back sometime, too?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#26768230)



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Date: November 21st, 2014 8:40 PM
Author: beta corner toilet seat

cr OP. also cf. Claude Levi-Strauss, Savage Mind as to why there is so much wisdom embedded in the traditional faiths. tldr; just because truths are dolled up in myth doesn't stop them from being truths.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#26768211)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 11:34 AM
Author: Adventurous potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#35362682)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 11:40 AM
Author: bossy pearly nursing home

OP genius

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#35362716)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 11:44 AM
Author: lascivious silver stage elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2268444&forum_id=2#35362736)