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SCOTUS LAYETH THE SMACKETH DOWNTH ON THE SIXTH CIRCUTH!

In this habeas case, the Sixth Circuit set aside two 29-year...
Confused wild forum
  06/11/12
I know shitlib 6th cir clerks who think the author of the op...
mahogany people who are hurt
  06/11/12
Why? I see the major blunder
Confused wild forum
  06/11/12
I don't know why he's so dumb. affirmative action nominee, I...
mahogany people who are hurt
  06/11/12
Is this cole?
curious brethren
  06/11/12
cole hires good clerks, usually. this is eric clay.
mahogany people who are hurt
  06/11/12
eh. both black four-letter last namers that start with c, am...
curious brethren
  06/11/12
they're pretty different, cole is a chill bro and clay is th...
mahogany people who are hurt
  06/11/12
both angry black men with four-letter last names bro
curious brethren
  06/11/12
I've met cole, he's the opposite of angry. sedated would be ...
mahogany people who are hurt
  06/11/12
LMAO. As we explained in correcting an identical error by...
curious brethren
  06/11/12
Clerk fucked up there...I don't see how the judge could have...
Confused wild forum
  06/11/12
but slim, a few months ago I posted a 6th cir opinion where ...
mahogany people who are hurt
  06/11/12
Your obfuscating shit now. That opinion was murkier because ...
Confused wild forum
  06/11/12
yeah, they arguably compounded the error by citing an arkans...
mahogany people who are hurt
  06/11/12
The circuit judges probably knew exactly what they were doin...
fishy foreskin kitchen
  06/11/12
they'll of course say that their precedent was just "ex...
mahogany people who are hurt
  06/11/12
...
Confused wild forum
  06/14/12
there are 5 6th cir judges who will tell you if you ask them...
mahogany people who are hurt
  06/11/12
if true, that's pretty fuckin alpha. Wonder if Scalia's prot...
Confused wild forum
  06/11/12
no, Sutton believes in AEDPA on steroids.
mahogany people who are hurt
  06/11/12
Look how retarded this opinion is (not on the merits) http:/...
Confused wild forum
  06/11/12
you mean the Reinhardt School of judicial philosphy?
curious brethren
  06/11/12
What does that entail?
Confused wild forum
  06/11/12
to never EVER find against the criminal in a death penalty h...
curious brethren
  06/11/12
http://web.law.umich.edu/_facultybiopage/facultybiopagenew.a...
Confused wild forum
  06/11/12
Not that prestigious to be given a tenured professorship so ...
Low-t frozen chapel electric furnace
  06/11/12
The fuck you say?
Confused wild forum
  06/11/12
he's saying she got the job because she's richard primus's h...
mahogany people who are hurt
  06/11/12
Maybe I'm being too harsh. Her publication record is decent ...
Low-t frozen chapel electric furnace
  06/11/12
wow wtf. this is what's wrong with journals. some crazy star...
mahogany people who are hurt
  06/11/12
quite a bit more than mine, i'm just a clerk on a lesser cir...
mahogany people who are hurt
  06/11/12
Primus told me that a Reinhardt clerkship will basically pla...
Confused wild forum
  06/11/12
yes, if you clerk for the ultimate lib hack, you can go fort...
mahogany people who are hurt
  06/11/12
Carlos Vasquez...ya he is pretty decent.
Confused wild forum
  06/11/12
ha
mahogany people who are hurt
  06/11/12
brb making shit up about the alien tort statute to serve my ...
curious brethren
  06/11/12
lol I know this hot shitlib girl who would take her cigarett...
mahogany people who are hurt
  06/11/12
was she into INTERNATIONAL LAW???
curious brethren
  06/11/12
she was into saving african villagers from multinationals, i...
mahogany people who are hurt
  06/11/12
yeah
mahogany people who are hurt
  06/11/12
Capitalizing terms there is TTT.
Cracking ape
  06/11/12
probably a thomas clerk did that
mahogany people who are hurt
  06/11/12
u mad the supreme court is so august that each interval at w...
curious brethren
  06/11/12
I wonder why the death penalty is so expensive.
Coiffed 180 Stock Car
  06/11/12
Mandatory appeals, jackass.
Confused wild forum
  06/11/12
Are you fucking dense?
Coiffed 180 Stock Car
  06/11/12
Elaborate, brother.
Confused wild forum
  06/11/12
just get rid of those
Embarrassed to the bone vengeful scourge upon the earth
  06/11/12
What about the potential error rate?
Confused wild forum
  06/11/12
way thefuck overblown by your retarded shitlib brethren
curious brethren
  06/11/12
...
Disgusting lavender hissy fit
  05/25/21
We really should stop killing people brothers. JURIES ARE F...
Cracking ape
  06/11/12
yeah let's just let them rot in prison for life bc that's ju...
mahogany people who are hurt
  06/11/12
(psychotic pumo)
Cracking ape
  06/11/12
any sane person would rather be executed than do life w/o pa...
mahogany people who are hurt
  06/11/12
the funny part is that they GVR'd, in light of this summary ...
mahogany people who are hurt
  06/12/12
180
curious brethren
  06/12/12
how is that funny?
Confused wild forum
  06/14/12
well, the two cases didn't really have much in common, and t...
mahogany people who are hurt
  06/14/12
Classmate of Bill Clinton bro.
Confused wild forum
  06/14/12
at YLS? the gvr really is lolsy as fuck. like what do you do...
mahogany people who are hurt
  06/14/12


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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:22 PM
Author: Confused wild forum

In this habeas case, the Sixth Circuit set aside two 29-year-old murder convictions based on the flimsiest of rationales. The court’s decision is a textbook example of what the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996 (AEDPA) proscribes: “using federal habeas corpus review as a vehicle to second-guess the reasonable decisions of state courts.”

The Sixth Circuit also erred by consulting its own precedents, rather than those of this Court, in assessing the reasonableness of the Kentucky Supreme Court’s decision...

As we explained in correcting an identical error by the

Sixth Circuit two Terms ago, circuit precedent does not constitute “clearly established Federal law, as determined by the Supreme Court,” 28 U. S. C. §2254(d)(1). It therefore

cannot form the basis for habeas relief under AEDPA.

To make matters worse, the Sixth Circuit decided Gall II under pre-AEDPA law, see 231 F. 3d, at 283, n. 2, so that case did not even purport to reflect clearly established law as set out in this Court’s holdings. It was plain and repetitive error for the Sixth Circuit to rely on its own precedents in granting Matthews habeas relief.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20869978)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:23 PM
Author: mahogany people who are hurt

I know shitlib 6th cir clerks who think the author of the opinion below is an idiot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20869987)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:24 PM
Author: Confused wild forum

Why? I see the major blunder

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870010)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:32 PM
Author: mahogany people who are hurt

I don't know why he's so dumb. affirmative action nominee, I guess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870080)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:43 PM
Author: curious brethren

Is this cole?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870192)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:54 PM
Author: mahogany people who are hurt

cole hires good clerks, usually. this is eric clay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870305)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 11:34 PM
Author: curious brethren

eh. both black four-letter last namers that start with c, amirite?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20871509)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 11:40 PM
Author: mahogany people who are hurt

they're pretty different, cole is a chill bro and clay is this retarded psycho with a bald pate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20871581)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 11:44 PM
Author: curious brethren

both angry black men with four-letter last names bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20871620)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 11:46 PM
Author: mahogany people who are hurt

I've met cole, he's the opposite of angry. sedated would be a better word. he has some shitlib MAF clerks whose shit he just rubberstamps, but even with them he's one of the most well-liked/collegial libs on the circuit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20871639)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:28 PM
Author: curious brethren

LMAO.

As we explained in correcting an identical error by the Sixth Circuit two Terms ago, circuit precedent does not constitute “clearly established Federal law, as determined by the Supreme Court,” 28 U. S. C. §2254(d)(1).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870047)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:29 PM
Author: Confused wild forum

Clerk fucked up there...I don't see how the judge could have signed on the opinion when the clerk was inserting analysis of circuit precedent...seems like a basis AEDPA no-no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870057)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:31 PM
Author: mahogany people who are hurt

but slim, a few months ago I posted a 6th cir opinion where they granted relief on the basis of ARKANSAS LAW about legal retardation, and you thought it was cool

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870076)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:32 PM
Author: Confused wild forum

Your obfuscating shit now. That opinion was murkier because of Teague stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870084)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:33 PM
Author: mahogany people who are hurt

yeah, they arguably compounded the error by citing an arkansas case that postdated the state court decision. maybe it was teague retroactive, but even if so, it's just arkansas law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870094)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:36 PM
Author: fishy foreskin kitchen

The circuit judges probably knew exactly what they were doing.

Reinhardt can't have all the fun.

http://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/49460/summary-reversal-ninth-circuit-judge-reinhardt/ed-whelan#



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870115)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:57 PM
Author: mahogany people who are hurt

they'll of course say that their precedent was just "explicating" the clearly established scotus law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870330)



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Date: June 14th, 2012 6:43 PM
Author: Confused wild forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20888328)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:30 PM
Author: mahogany people who are hurt

there are 5 6th cir judges who will tell you if you ask them face to face that they believe in nullifying aedpa, esp. in death cases, and will keep doing it so long as scotus can't reverse them everytime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870065)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:31 PM
Author: Confused wild forum

if true, that's pretty fuckin alpha. Wonder if Scalia's protege Sutton is one of em

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870077)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:32 PM
Author: mahogany people who are hurt

no, Sutton believes in AEDPA on steroids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870086)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:34 PM
Author: Confused wild forum

Look how retarded this opinion is (not on the merits) http://sblog.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Garcia-ruling-9th-CA-6-8-8.pdf

I feel so sorry for the clerks who probably endured hours of misery writing this back and forth until the final draft.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870100)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:34 PM
Author: curious brethren

you mean the Reinhardt School of judicial philosphy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870096)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:36 PM
Author: Confused wild forum

What does that entail?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870122)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:38 PM
Author: curious brethren

to never EVER find against the criminal in a death penalty habeas proceeding, no matter how ridiculously obviously deficient the claims are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870143)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:42 PM
Author: Confused wild forum

http://web.law.umich.edu/_facultybiopage/facultybiopagenew.asp?ID=305

Rate her prestige relative to yours.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870180)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:55 PM
Author: Low-t frozen chapel electric furnace

Not that prestigious to be given a tenured professorship so your husband doesn't bolt for another school. Cf. Amy Chua.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870316)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:57 PM
Author: Confused wild forum

The fuck you say?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870332)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 10:00 PM
Author: mahogany people who are hurt

he's saying she got the job because she's richard primus's husband

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870358)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 10:00 PM
Author: Low-t frozen chapel electric furnace

Maybe I'm being too harsh. Her publication record is decent enough. But:

For decades, scholars and judges have assumed that federal habeas corpus review of state court criminal convictions should focus on the individual rights of habeas petitioners and that the federal courts should ask whether a state prisoner is being unlawfully detained because the state violated his individual federal rights. This individualized approach to federal habeas review is expensive, time-consuming, and woefully ineffective in stopping states from violating defendants' federal rights. Indeed, many states systematically violate criminal defendants' federal rights with impunity. This Article proposes a new conception of federal habeas review under which the federal courts focus on states, not on individual petitioners. Federal habeas relief should be available when a state routinely violates its criminal defendants' federal rights as part of a systemic practice. Reconfiguring federal habeas corpus review to focus on states and systemic practices would reduce redundancy, increase efficiency, and be more respectful of state institutions while, at the same time, recovering one of the original and now lost purposes of federal habeas corpus review.

lol good luck with that one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870369)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 10:02 PM
Author: mahogany people who are hurt

wow wtf. this is what's wrong with journals. some crazy starry-eyed libs at stanford or minnesota or wherever that got in, 3L's who don't know shit about habeas, read that and think "oh that sounds creative, let's take it"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870391)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:56 PM
Author: mahogany people who are hurt

quite a bit more than mine, i'm just a clerk on a lesser circuit, less achievements in law school than her too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870320)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:58 PM
Author: Confused wild forum

Primus told me that a Reinhardt clerkship will basically plant you a permanent base in the intelligentsia of progressives in this country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870340)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 10:00 PM
Author: mahogany people who are hurt

yes, if you clerk for the ultimate lib hack, you can go forth and work for other lib hacks. I will say that the one reinhardt clerk/prof I've talked to was a very reasonable non-hackish person

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870366)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 10:03 PM
Author: Confused wild forum

Carlos Vasquez...ya he is pretty decent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870399)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 11:34 PM
Author: mahogany people who are hurt

ha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20871505)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 11:36 PM
Author: curious brethren

brb making shit up about the alien tort statute to serve my modern political ends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20871533)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 11:42 PM
Author: mahogany people who are hurt

lol I know this hot shitlib girl who would take her cigarette breaks from class with me just to pepper me with questions about what scotus would do with the ATS. and I would just be like, they'll pwn you crazed public interest faggots is what they'll do, hey btw would you like to do lunch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20871600)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 11:45 PM
Author: curious brethren

was she into INTERNATIONAL LAW???

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20871626)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 11:47 PM
Author: mahogany people who are hurt

she was into saving african villagers from multinationals, international law not so much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20871649)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:53 PM
Author: mahogany people who are hurt

yeah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870290)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 11:46 PM
Author: Cracking ape

Capitalizing terms there is TTT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20871640)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 11:48 PM
Author: mahogany people who are hurt

probably a thomas clerk did that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20871657)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 11:49 PM
Author: curious brethren

u mad the supreme court is so august that each interval at which they publish opinions must be capitalized to demonstrate its significance and importance? oh yeah, u mad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20871664)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:42 PM
Author: Coiffed 180 Stock Car

I wonder why the death penalty is so expensive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870183)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:43 PM
Author: Confused wild forum

Mandatory appeals, jackass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870194)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:45 PM
Author: Coiffed 180 Stock Car

Are you fucking dense?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870203)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:46 PM
Author: Confused wild forum

Elaborate, brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870216)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:45 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone vengeful scourge upon the earth

just get rid of those

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870206)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 9:46 PM
Author: Confused wild forum

What about the potential error rate?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20870224)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 11:34 PM
Author: curious brethren

way thefuck overblown by your retarded shitlib brethren

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20871515)



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Date: May 25th, 2021 11:54 PM
Author: Disgusting lavender hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#42522536)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 11:49 PM
Author: Cracking ape

We really should stop killing people brothers. JURIES ARE FUCKING RETARDED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20871666)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 11:51 PM
Author: mahogany people who are hurt

yeah let's just let them rot in prison for life bc that's just so much more fun than simply ceasing to exist and being relieved from life's miseries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20871681)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 11:57 PM
Author: Cracking ape

(psychotic pumo)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20871731)



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Date: June 11th, 2012 11:59 PM
Author: mahogany people who are hurt

any sane person would rather be executed than do life w/o parole. I mean, maybe a gay person wouldn't, I hear prison affords many an opportunity for buttsex

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20871740)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 7:20 PM
Author: mahogany people who are hurt

the funny part is that they GVR'd, in light of this summary reversal, another 6th cir habeas grant written by the same judge

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20875983)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 8:54 PM
Author: curious brethren

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20876493)



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Date: June 14th, 2012 6:49 PM
Author: Confused wild forum

how is that funny?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20888368)



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Date: June 14th, 2012 6:51 PM
Author: mahogany people who are hurt

well, the two cases didn't really have much in common, and the first summary reversal didn't say anything new - usually cases are GVR'd in light of a case that announces some new rule - so the GVR makes no sense unless it's read as just a big STOP FUCKING THE FUCK AROUND AND GRANTING BUMS HABEAS RELIEF, ERIC CLAY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20888388)



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Date: June 14th, 2012 6:53 PM
Author: Confused wild forum

Classmate of Bill Clinton bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20888400)



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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:02 PM
Author: mahogany people who are hurt

at YLS? the gvr really is lolsy as fuck. like what do you do, if you're Clay, with this GVR? Parker doesn't say anything he didn't already know, it doesn't announce any rule. normally a gvr is like this, 6th cir says plaintiff satisfies standard x, scotus says in an appeal from another circuit that the standard is y, so then it gvr's the 6th cir decision and the 6th now decides, in light of the scotus case, whether the plaintiff satisfies y. but there's nothing in Parker in light of which the panel should reconsider the decision in Howes, so it's really just like, "hey, see how we were mad as fuck at you over not taking aedpa seriously in this other case? better think again." I mean, I'm not even sure what this new opinion is supposed to look like - SCOTUS just bitched us out in a superficially similar matter and so we're changing our minds? they could just grant relief again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968678&forum_id=2#20888468)