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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
tan candlestick maker
  11/09/25
180
Seedy affirmative action
  11/09/25
they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
tan candlestick maker
  11/09/25
much more than that
bateful cruise ship prole
  11/09/25
anal rape?
indigo nubile tanning salon
  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
Slimy spot
  11/09/25
...
Mewling pocket flask theater stage
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
Seedy affirmative action
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
Lascivious maniacal brunch sweet tailpipe
  11/09/25
...
Arrogant lay
  11/09/25
why who is he?
tan candlestick maker
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
dull beady-eyed lodge
  11/09/25
...
Seedy affirmative action
  11/09/25
...
Topaz aggressive range
  11/09/25
cr he blows
Alcoholic Doobsian Messiness
  11/09/25
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contagious puce nibblets area
  11/09/25
...
contagious puce nibblets area
  11/09/25
Cleveland *Indians*
Swashbuckling ultramarine box office
  11/09/25
indians, cleveland
Impressive state boltzmann
  11/09/25
im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
Ivory toilet seat office
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
tan candlestick maker
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
Ivory toilet seat office
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
costumed property
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
milky passionate locale
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
medicated idea he suggested corner
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
Submissive histrionic heaven gaming laptop
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
Impressive state boltzmann
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
costumed property
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
Alcoholic Doobsian Messiness
  11/09/25
*destroying
tan candlestick maker
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
bateful cruise ship prole
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
Alcoholic Doobsian Messiness
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
bateful cruise ship prole
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
Painfully honest maize principal's office
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
tan candlestick maker
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
Disturbing walnut newt black woman
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
tan candlestick maker
  11/09/25
Jews maf
costumed property
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
Ivory toilet seat office
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
tan candlestick maker
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
Ivory toilet seat office
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
Alcoholic Doobsian Messiness
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
medicated idea he suggested corner
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
Disturbing walnut newt black woman
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
odious ocher wrinkle
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
tan candlestick maker
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
odious ocher wrinkle
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
medicated idea he suggested corner
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
tan candlestick maker
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
tan candlestick maker
  11/09/25
lol
odious ocher wrinkle
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
Clear Sanctuary
  11/09/25
...
costumed property
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
twisted electric dopamine
  11/09/25
was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
Impressive state boltzmann
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
Alcoholic Doobsian Messiness
  11/09/25
anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
Submissive histrionic heaven gaming laptop
  11/10/25
I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
Disturbing walnut newt black woman
  11/09/25
...
Mewling pocket flask theater stage
  11/09/25
lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
tan candlestick maker
  11/10/25
...
costumed property
  11/10/25
could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
violent party of the first part
  11/10/25
lol
arousing hideous stead knife
  11/10/25
Lmao
Painfully honest maize principal's office
  11/10/25


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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: tan candlestick maker

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414444)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: Seedy affirmative action

180

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: tan candlestick maker

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: bateful cruise ship prole

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: indigo nubile tanning salon

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: Slimy spot

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Mewling pocket flask theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49415169)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Seedy affirmative action

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Lascivious maniacal brunch sweet tailpipe

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Arrogant lay



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: tan candlestick maker

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: dull beady-eyed lodge

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: Seedy affirmative action



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: Topaz aggressive range



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Alcoholic Doobsian Messiness

cr he blows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414535)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: contagious puce nibblets area



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: contagious puce nibblets area



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Swashbuckling ultramarine box office

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Impressive state boltzmann

indians, cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414465)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Ivory toilet seat office

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: tan candlestick maker

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Ivory toilet seat office

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: costumed property

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: milky passionate locale

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: medicated idea he suggested corner

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Submissive histrionic heaven gaming laptop

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Impressive state boltzmann

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: costumed property

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Alcoholic Doobsian Messiness

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: tan candlestick maker

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: bateful cruise ship prole

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: Alcoholic Doobsian Messiness

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: bateful cruise ship prole

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: Painfully honest maize principal's office

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: tan candlestick maker

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: Disturbing walnut newt black woman

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: tan candlestick maker

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: costumed property

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Ivory toilet seat office

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: tan candlestick maker

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: Ivory toilet seat office

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: Alcoholic Doobsian Messiness

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: medicated idea he suggested corner

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Disturbing walnut newt black woman

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: odious ocher wrinkle

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: tan candlestick maker

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: odious ocher wrinkle

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: medicated idea he suggested corner

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: tan candlestick maker

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: tan candlestick maker

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: odious ocher wrinkle

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Clear Sanctuary

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: costumed property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414950)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: twisted electric dopamine

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: Impressive state boltzmann

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: Alcoholic Doobsian Messiness

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: Submissive histrionic heaven gaming laptop

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Disturbing walnut newt black woman

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Mewling pocket flask theater stage



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: tan candlestick maker

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: costumed property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49416110)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: violent party of the first part

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: arousing hideous stead knife

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: Painfully honest maize principal's office

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2#49416774)