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Date: September 25th, 2020 6:40 PM Author: aquamarine flatulent box office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987394) |
Date: September 25th, 2020 6:54 PM Author: Passionate Medicated Digit Ratio plato's republic.
shopenhoure's the world as will and representation.
kant's critique of pure reason.
kierkieggard's the sickness unto death
descarte's meditations on first philosophy
newton's principia mathematica
euclid the elements
should definitely be included. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 6:59 PM Author: stirring lilac preventive strike nursing home Augustine Leibniz Hegel
you're missing all the good ones |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:00 PM Author: Passionate Medicated Digit Ratio agree with the first two, not sure about hegel, probably pass.
i would also include william blake. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:01 PM Author: stirring lilac preventive strike nursing home it seems obvious to me contemporary philosophy gets its notion of possible worlds from leibniz, not to mention he has one of the better theodicies imo
i never read him much but im suprised hes not taught more. probably bc jewish |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:04 PM Author: Passionate Medicated Digit Ratio im not interested in the 'philosophy' of possible worlds, if that meant to allude to the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics.
and in any case, i do not think there are possible many worlds. there is only one, indivisible, material universe.
but to say that this universe is the only, if even real, form of true, underlying reality is probably wrong.
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:09 PM Author: stirring lilac preventive strike nursing home no in qm possible worlds are universes with the same natural laws as this one but with different outcomes. im talking about the set of possible but not actual laws of nature. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987538) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:04 PM Author: curious field international law enforcement agency elements isn't philosophy. it's pure geometry. probably the best math book ever written. same thing with newton. newton has a little philosophy regarding instantaneous acceleration and xeno's paradox but, again, the best calc book. you could use the elements as a textbook but not the principia. however a prof named densmore wrote a sort-of textbook that goes through principia which is great.
if you like math try descarte's geometry which is amazing.
best 10 or so phil works:
plato's republic, meno
aristotle's physics, metaphysics
kant's critique of pure reason
hegel's phenomenology of spirit
descartes' meditations
hobbes' leviathan
leibniz's discourse on metaphysics, the monadology
spinoza's ethics
wittgenstein's tractatus logico-philosophicus
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:05 PM Author: Passionate Medicated Digit Ratio wittgnestein renounced his thinking in his later years. the vienna circle is just a bunch of nihilistic positivists, working to deny the existence of a soul.
otherwise, good choices.
also, differentiating between philosophy and math in the time of when all thinking wasnt separated as it is now is kind of wrong and dogmatic. newton thought he was doing natural philosophy, and by extension, trying to understand god. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:08 PM Author: curious field international law enforcement agency whether he renounced or not, his shit is still amazing and rigorous.
i would also add your moniker, the prince, as one the best political philosophy works with leviathan, locke's second treatise on government and rousseau's social contract. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:12 PM Author: Passionate Medicated Digit Ratio his thinking led to analytic philosophy and the death of philosophy in its incarnation as philosophy of science.
as it is now, philosophy is meant to mean clear thinking, instead of its original intention to understand observed reality.
horrible man. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:13 PM Author: curious field international law enforcement agency it seems like modern philosophy is all philosophy of language shit starting with frege and word games. i know the big W was the original word gamer but academia has taken it way too far. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987557) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:15 PM Author: Passionate Medicated Digit Ratio frege was the originator, in part, but wittengsteins thinking had great effect on the vienna circle.
bertrand russell is probably roasting in hell as we speak. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:16 PM Author: stirring lilac preventive strike nursing home exept american logicians would never cite witt. but they cite frege constantly. see e.g. brandom (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987562) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:17 PM Author: Passionate Medicated Digit Ratio frege took it more seriously and systematically to erode all mystical thought.
wittengstein was only dicking around and trying to find the truth. he was misguided, frege was doing it out of spite to god's will. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:19 PM Author: curious field international law enforcement agency the best thing russell did was write the history of western philosophy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987570) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:21 PM Author: Passionate Medicated Digit Ratio i wouldnt want to read about history of western philosophy through his lens. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987580) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:22 PM Author: curious field international law enforcement agency it's actually pretty good he hits the major works and traces their ideas fairly objectively from socrates through like locke. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987588) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:11 PM Author: stirring lilac preventive strike nursing home >>wittgnestein renounced his thinking in his later years.
to no effect imo. seems like the positivists butchered him. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:18 PM Author: Titillating Hominid Stage Read the baby books first. Read philo for idiots and comic books on philo. Get the basic ideas. You can hit the originals after that but honestly the stuff gets dated after awhile, as science progresses. I think philosophers the best modern ones are coming up w new paradigms to approach the problems already identified. It’s less about knowing the terms and terminology of old works than it is knowing the tools generally. Also make use of the internet and instructions available on YouTube. This is 100 percent my self informed perspective and I’m sure I will be ridiculed on here by the hard hitters but I’m comfortable w it. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:22 PM Author: Passionate Medicated Digit Ratio worst advice ever.
absolute opposite of what should be done.
engage with the originals.
truly modern 'philosophy' is a heap of confused trash. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:28 PM Author: Titillating Hominid Stage Yep. They are valuable but yeah, terrible to read. Idiosyncratic and fumbling. But we all are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987619) |
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