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What 10 philosophy books should a person read
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Date: September 25th, 2020 6:40 PM Author: racy step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987394) |
Date: September 25th, 2020 6:54 PM Author: Irate thriller voyeur plato's republic.
shopenhoure's the world as will and representation.
kant's critique of pure reason.
kierkieggard's the sickness unto death
descarte's meditations on first philosophy
newton's principia mathematica
euclid the elements
should definitely be included. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 6:59 PM Author: Costumed Cowardly Set Augustine Leibniz Hegel
you're missing all the good ones |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:00 PM Author: Irate thriller voyeur agree with the first two, not sure about hegel, probably pass.
i would also include william blake. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:01 PM Author: Costumed Cowardly Set it seems obvious to me contemporary philosophy gets its notion of possible worlds from leibniz, not to mention he has one of the better theodicies imo
i never read him much but im suprised hes not taught more. probably bc jewish |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:04 PM Author: Irate thriller voyeur im not interested in the 'philosophy' of possible worlds, if that meant to allude to the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics.
and in any case, i do not think there are possible many worlds. there is only one, indivisible, material universe.
but to say that this universe is the only, if even real, form of true, underlying reality is probably wrong.
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:09 PM Author: Costumed Cowardly Set no in qm possible worlds are universes with the same natural laws as this one but with different outcomes. im talking about the set of possible but not actual laws of nature. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987538) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:04 PM Author: deep locale gunner elements isn't philosophy. it's pure geometry. probably the best math book ever written. same thing with newton. newton has a little philosophy regarding instantaneous acceleration and xeno's paradox but, again, the best calc book. you could use the elements as a textbook but not the principia. however a prof named densmore wrote a sort-of textbook that goes through principia which is great.
if you like math try descarte's geometry which is amazing.
best 10 or so phil works:
plato's republic, meno
aristotle's physics, metaphysics
kant's critique of pure reason
hegel's phenomenology of spirit
descartes' meditations
hobbes' leviathan
leibniz's discourse on metaphysics, the monadology
spinoza's ethics
wittgenstein's tractatus logico-philosophicus
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:05 PM Author: Irate thriller voyeur wittgnestein renounced his thinking in his later years. the vienna circle is just a bunch of nihilistic positivists, working to deny the existence of a soul.
otherwise, good choices.
also, differentiating between philosophy and math in the time of when all thinking wasnt separated as it is now is kind of wrong and dogmatic. newton thought he was doing natural philosophy, and by extension, trying to understand god. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:08 PM Author: deep locale gunner whether he renounced or not, his shit is still amazing and rigorous.
i would also add your moniker, the prince, as one the best political philosophy works with leviathan, locke's second treatise on government and rousseau's social contract. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:12 PM Author: Irate thriller voyeur his thinking led to analytic philosophy and the death of philosophy in its incarnation as philosophy of science.
as it is now, philosophy is meant to mean clear thinking, instead of its original intention to understand observed reality.
horrible man. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:13 PM Author: deep locale gunner it seems like modern philosophy is all philosophy of language shit starting with frege and word games. i know the big W was the original word gamer but academia has taken it way too far. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987557) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:15 PM Author: Irate thriller voyeur frege was the originator, in part, but wittengsteins thinking had great effect on the vienna circle.
bertrand russell is probably roasting in hell as we speak. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:16 PM Author: Costumed Cowardly Set exept american logicians would never cite witt. but they cite frege constantly. see e.g. brandom (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987562) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:17 PM Author: Irate thriller voyeur frege took it more seriously and systematically to erode all mystical thought.
wittengstein was only dicking around and trying to find the truth. he was misguided, frege was doing it out of spite to god's will. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:19 PM Author: deep locale gunner the best thing russell did was write the history of western philosophy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987570) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:21 PM Author: Irate thriller voyeur i wouldnt want to read about history of western philosophy through his lens. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987580) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:22 PM Author: deep locale gunner it's actually pretty good he hits the major works and traces their ideas fairly objectively from socrates through like locke. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987588) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:23 PM Author: Irate thriller voyeur i think i read it at one point and it wasnt very good in my opinion. his biases arent obvious, but are there, and misguide. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987591) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:23 PM Author: Costumed Cowardly Set (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987594) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:11 PM Author: Costumed Cowardly Set >>wittgnestein renounced his thinking in his later years.
to no effect imo. seems like the positivists butchered him. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:12 PM Author: Irate thriller voyeur his mind was bigger than theirs, it appears. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987552) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:14 PM Author: 180 police squad keepsake machete Descartes influenced Spinoza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987558) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:20 PM Author: deep locale gunner yo when should i call you tonight?
i got a date with a 5'11" tennis pro who played high school at IMG at then an ACC college. she now is an instructor at a country club. met her when i was magnet fishing this morning on intracoastl. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:25 PM Author: 180 police squad keepsake machete quit showing off dude lmao - enjoy your date! 5'll wtf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987601) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:27 PM Author: 180 police squad keepsake machete most girls who say they are 5'11 are actually 6'0 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987610) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:38 PM Author: deep locale gunner she said she's 5'10" i looked up her college roster and one years said she's 6 foot the other said 5'11" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987658) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:27 PM Author: deep locale gunner it's tomorrow. i met her this morning while catching knives, car keys and a broken .22 in the water. if she wears heels tomorrow i'm fucked. might have told her i'm 6;2". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987611) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:52 PM Author: 180 police squad keepsake machete i am 6'2 and 5'11 is too tall for me - the good news is that girls who are that tall ... regardless of their status as a model, tennis champ, golf champ, hockey girl, etc etc doesn't matter, they are always insecure. always. 5'll is enormous for a girl. if you are actually taller than her, which is unlikely considering you're such an enormous dork, u should use that to your advantage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987703) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:56 PM Author: deep locale gunner barefoot, yeah i'm taller. if she wears even small heals i'm fucked. and yeah i know she'll fuck me. but i mean i'm fucked as in people will see me god forbid shorter than a female i'm with. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987718) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 6:56 PM Author: Costumed Cowardly Set Radical Dualism, Prince tp My Brain is Heavier Than Yours, OYT tp Now Watch This Psychedelics Drive, hank scorpio I Dunno Look In The Bible, cow goes moo tp Against God and Nature, tedb tp Freedom To Fight Like Jesus, live free tp Against Heresy, potluck tp |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 6:59 PM Author: racy step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987490) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 8:17 PM Author: pink domesticated stage Nicomachean Retardation, harrison tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987786) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 8:37 PM Author: Soul-stirring range lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987868) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 6:57 PM Author: deranged brethren toaster people shouldn’t read (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987474) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:36 PM Author: medicated mauve base haunted graveyard (nietzsche) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987649) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:05 PM Author: Trip abusive toilet seat Bible ten times (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987518) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:07 PM Author: sepia goyim marketing idea btw, this isnt flame. this is the best answer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987524) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:09 PM Author: deep locale gunner it's not. it's a great work of literature and a code of conduct as well but it doesn't rigorously analyze the why of things. which is sort of the point of faith. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987536) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:12 PM Author: Violet frisky church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987555) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:22 PM Author: maize pit Cr. Also as I get older I find the book to be more jejune than you’d think. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987586) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:25 PM Author: deep locale gunner if you're from a broken home and just learned how to read it's about the best thing you can get your hands on and makes sense why many prisoners became very religious after first encountering the bible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987599) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:27 PM Author: maize pit 100 percent fair. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987607) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:36 PM Author: Heady idiot parlor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987650) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:38 PM Author: sepia goyim marketing idea it's simple and tells what you need to enjoy a rich interior life pretty much ad infinitum.
everything else is basically vanity. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 9:07 PM Author: Heady idiot parlor different strokes for different folks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40988022) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 8:32 PM Author: pink domesticated stage Sounds perfect for xo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987852) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:41 PM Author: claret office gaming laptop It’s all faith, that’s the whole point of Fear and Trembling when kierkegaard blew out Hegel and Nietzsche put a nail in it when he completed western philosophy and Heidegger formalized it all (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987670) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:10 PM Author: Trip abusive toilet seat ;) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987540) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:12 PM Author: claret office gaming laptop lol at this moniker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987553) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:12 PM Author: claret office gaming laptop Need some xo Heidegger in here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987551) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:13 PM Author: 180 police squad keepsake machete nevermind - i think mdh probably has the best list (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987556) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:20 PM Author: Costumed Cowardly Set ontological arguments are flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987579) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:40 PM Author: 180 police squad keepsake machete heard those exact words at the bar last night - but is it true? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987662) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:14 PM Author: claret office gaming laptop Industrial Society and its Future (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987559) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:22 PM Author: swashbuckling piazza roommate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987585) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:27 PM Author: Red internal respiration rehab (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987608) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:18 PM Author: maize pit Read the baby books first. Read philo for idiots and comic books on philo. Get the basic ideas. You can hit the originals after that but honestly the stuff gets dated after awhile, as science progresses. I think philosophers the best modern ones are coming up w new paradigms to approach the problems already identified. It’s less about knowing the terms and terminology of old works than it is knowing the tools generally. Also make use of the internet and instructions available on YouTube. This is 100 percent my self informed perspective and I’m sure I will be ridiculed on here by the hard hitters but I’m comfortable w it. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:22 PM Author: Irate thriller voyeur worst advice ever.
absolute opposite of what should be done.
engage with the originals.
truly modern 'philosophy' is a heap of confused trash. |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:26 PM Author: deep locale gunner i agree. you don't need a primer or textbook. just start reading. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987602) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:29 PM Author: maize pit That’s your high IQ talking though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987623) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:26 PM Author: maize pit It’s okay that you think that. I usually don’t engage you because you wish that I would die. But, no offense, you are wrong almost 100 percent of the time. Sorry! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987604) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:27 PM Author: Red internal respiration rehab Philosophy books are generally terrible (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987613) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:28 PM Author: maize pit Yep. They are valuable but yeah, terrible to read. Idiosyncratic and fumbling. But we all are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987619) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:35 PM Author: Heady idiot parlor youd learn more from observing nature than consuming the entire canon of Western philosophy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987645) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:37 PM Author: maize pit Disagree but not by much. Most people don’t have the sensibility, haven’t been beaten into broad perceptions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987654) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:41 PM Author: Heady idiot parlor its a monumental waste of time for everyone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987668) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:43 PM Author: claret office gaming laptop This is a retarded take (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987673) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:47 PM Author: Heady idiot parlor its true. look at the menagerie of idiots itt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987688) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:49 PM Author: claret office gaming laptop The immortal giants listed ITT all observed nature and wrote their observations down after grueling reflection and grappling with other immortal geniuses (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987695) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:50 PM Author: Heady idiot parlor you seem dumb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987699) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:40 PM Author: crimson puppy meetinghouse wittgenstein's investigations
makes everything else obsolete
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Date: September 25th, 2020 7:57 PM Author: Talented ruby locus philosophy is flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40987726) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 10:33 PM Author: khaki pontificating headpube hospital It's life itself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40988587) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 10:34 PM Author: khaki pontificating headpube hospital Meditations (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4633356&forum_id=2#40988591) |