OH WHAT A TACTICAL MASTERY!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688648&forum_id=2#48713282)

Seems like an unwise move when the existing world order has been so beneficial to the US. But I’m sure the orange reality tv star has a deep and thorough grasp on history and has a very clear and attainable final goal that will benefit us all just as enormously as decades of US hegemony did.

Lmao.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688648&forum_id=2#48712551)

The US doesnt have the ability to take on Russia, China, and Iran simultaneously. We cant afford to antagonize all 3 at once. Of the 3, China is the biggest threat by far. Logic dictates that you then dial down the Rivalry with Russia in order to focus on the Pacific and Russia. In order to do that, we have to risk alienating some of our traditional allies in Europe. This is a smart move because Europe will not be be able or willing to assist us in any meaningful way in the Pacific when war comes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688648&forum_id=2#48712590)

There's actually less conflict and bloodshed now than at pretty much any time in the post WW2 period. We just have twitter now. The trumpmos desperate desire for revolution is just so mind-bogglingly stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688648&forum_id=2#48713251)

It’s undeniably true that U.S. power vis-a-vis its major competitors is lower now than it was 30 years ago and is not trending in a positive direction. Our economy and nation can no longer support full throated U.S. engagement in all global theaters. A rational person recognizes this and acts accordingly. You, however, suffer from TDS and so can’t think rationally.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688648&forum_id=2#48713530)

The US has (had) around 50 major economies as allies with which to wage conventional or economic war. This alliance rules (ruled) the world. There are no external threats to it. The only threat would be if a Trojan horse were to invade and sabotage the alliance and destroy its cohesiveness from the inside.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688648&forum_id=2#48713549)

Lol at this shitlib handwaving away of inconvenient problems.

China is vastly different than Japan with much more ambitious goals. Chink demographic problems arent the same as Western demographic problems because they have a different social safety net and can tolerate living with a lower standard of living for a lot longer without revolting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688648&forum_id=2#48713554)

Now youre assuring us they will collapse and we dont need to worry about them.

Sorry if I dont believe a goddamn thing the shitlib national security establishment tells me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688648&forum_id=2#48714848)

Dont forget republicans gave us both Afghanistan and Iraq, while you pretend to be anti-war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688648&forum_id=2#48712560)

both parties supported iraq and afghanistan overwhelmingly.

trump wanted to get out of afghanistan. i give biden all the credit in the world for actually doing it despite both parties trying to hamstring him. in 2021 i would have probably have voted biden over trump since trump's first term was a disaster and biden seemed like an actual moderate who would get us out of wars. but then he got steamrolled by the buttplug mafia...

see obeezy, not everyone thinks politics is about a "teams" wins and losses. i was very happy for biden's early accomplishments, most notably finally pulling the plug on afghanistan. unlike you i like it when good things happen for america and don't base my opinions on the letter next to their name on MSNBC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688648&forum_id=2#48712581)

This is just historical record and factual. I don’t know why it triggered you so badly. You okay?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688648&forum_id=2#48712588)

So glad we have all that on the record now. Boy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688648&forum_id=2#48712635)

the democrats wanted to escalate our involvement in ukraine, trump wanted to reduce it and push for peace. thus far he has made good on that, and i give him credit for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688648&forum_id=2#48712647)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688648&forum_id=2#48713328)

Or is it just Gunner who is *that* dishonest? Mmmmmm bitch boi?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688648&forum_id=2#48712639)

Your counter argument I assume is going to be "i understand the Ukrainian perspective, but this is not our problem. I'm not OK with indefinitely providing military aid to Ukraine."

That's a rational argument to make but there are consequences to abandoning and betraying your allies. You're a smart guy, gunner, so I'm assuming you've accounted for those consequences in your analysis and conclusions on this issue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688648&forum_id=2#48713238)

Then is the politics of NATO. The EU countries were able to have lavish welfare states in part by not living up to their NATO obligations, which was something every American president complained about and the response by the other countries was to always shrug and laugh it off.

And in recent decades has been the EU's unofficial war against American big tech companies, regularly issuing enormous fines over trivial matters. The EU even forced Ireland to sue and fine Google. Add to that the entire EU censorship complex, which is another platform of their wars against American big tech.

This is a separate issue from Russia, which I do not like nor trust at all, but the collective experience is enough to tell you that when you're the world's richest and most dynamic and innovative country - by a huge margin - you really don't have friends in the world, just friendly acquaintances.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688648&forum_id=2#48712662)

putin croaks and suddenly russia plunges into disorder. their gains in ukraine would end up like alexanders conquests. pay the piper for these small woundings and then when the pendulum tilts the other way, infiltrate and fragment russia into 20 -stans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688648&forum_id=2#48712671)

this is tough love. Trump is smacking his bitch up to enforce boundaries and expectations. they throw a fit in the moment, but in the end, they're better behaved and everyone is happier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688648&forum_id=2#48713239)

never forget that this is lib's wet dream.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688648&forum_id=2#48713551)

For example, NATO countries are our friends. But if you're at dinner with your friends, and the bill comes, do you go "Wow Steve is just such a great guy we love Steve we're just going to keep paying the bill ad talk about how great Steve is." Or do you go, "Hey Steve, quit being an ass and pay your whole share."

Same thing with Russia. If you bump into a guy at a bar and his beer spills, and he starts screaming at you, do you go "You're a fucking idiot and evil and I hate you." Or do you go, "Sorry bud - it was my bad. Let's get another round together."

Sometimes you have to be tough on your friends, and sometimes you have to be kind to your enemies. A literal 5th grader cuold understand this but libs are too stupid. "We stood tough to Putin on the Ukraine and said we might let Ukraine into Nato! Good thing we were tough!" Well, great, now 1 million men are dead and we have no plan where to go next. But we 'stood tough'.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688648&forum_id=2#48715236)