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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:41 PM Author: Crystalline Exhilarant Gunner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931248) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:43 PM Author: Boyish blathering station gaping solo? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931260) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:44 PM Author: Crystalline Exhilarant Gunner word (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931266) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:46 PM Author: Boyish blathering station gaping how long you been practicing? biggest retainer yet? how many cases are you currently working? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931272) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:51 PM Author: Crystalline Exhilarant Gunner about a year, 5K, about 30 open cases (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931296) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:52 PM Author: Boyish blathering station gaping do you do any appointed work? how do you get your clients? do you have office space? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931311) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:55 PM Author: Crystalline Exhilarant Gunner no, you have to work a certain amount of time to get court appointed work, mostly referrals from other attorneys. shared office space with some other attys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931338) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:46 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle Hell Electric Furnace quick, how many 2254s have you won? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931275) |
Date: August 31st, 2010 3:46 PM Author: Red black woman temple I know that most criminal defense lawyers who do minor stuff are absolutely incompetent, but assuming someone wanted to become competent prior to going solo in crim work, how would one go about it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931273) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:52 PM Author: Crystalline Exhilarant Gunner work in a crim defense firm that takes cases to trial, you can quickly learn who the top crim lawyers in your city are, try to work for one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931305) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:53 PM Author: greedy goal in life principal's office SUMMON: SHITLAW STEVE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931318) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:53 PM Author: maroon messiness skinny woman best white-collar crimes (profitable, easy to get away with)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931319) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:56 PM Author: Crystalline Exhilarant Gunner don't do white collar crimes, that's more biglaw/midlaw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931341) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:55 PM Author: wonderful haunting newt Did you go solo out of necessity or was that the plan all along?
Also, any tips on surviving the first six months, etc. |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:56 PM Author: Crystalline Exhilarant Gunner the plan was ADA, so i guess out of necessity. try to have some money saved so you can pay your bills/eat while you wait for clients to roll in (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931348) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:58 PM Author: wonderful haunting newt Do still want to be a prosecutor? Or was the plan to ADA it for a while then switch to crim d?
How did you hustle for clients in the beginning? |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:00 PM Author: Crystalline Exhilarant Gunner plan was to go private after 10 years, after IBR discharged my loans. so i still want to go to be ADA for 10 years, then go back to private (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931370) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:56 PM Author: fantasy-prone cobalt tanning salon kitty What's your opinion of the public defender's office, dawg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931347) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:57 PM Author: Crystalline Exhilarant Gunner in comparison to some of their guys i am a maggot. but compared to many i am def a better deal for my clients. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931355) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:56 PM Author: plum public bath regret Biggest charge you've gotten a person you believed to be guilty off on? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931349) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:58 PM Author: Crystalline Exhilarant Gunner off completely? drug w/intent to sell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931360) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:56 PM Author: Diverse Hall Sound Barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931351) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:59 PM Author: Crystalline Exhilarant Gunner yea of course, you need to so you can get sweeter deals for your clients. it's amazing how arbitrary ADAs are when it comes to offers. if they like you personally they'll do a lot for your clients. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931367) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:00 PM Author: Diverse Hall Sound Barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931369) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:00 PM Author: Crystalline Exhilarant Gunner because they don't give a shit about their 'clients' (for the most part) and btw ime many of them do get along with ADAs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931376) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:02 PM Author: Diverse Hall Sound Barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931391) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:10 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle Hell Electric Furnace how often would the usao deal with state pds? never? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931474) |
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Date: September 1st, 2010 12:14 AM Author: Scarlet stubborn yarmulke DC USAO. And to answer the earlier question, DC PDS is just very... fervent in their beliefs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15936370) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 3:57 PM Author: greedy goal in life principal's office t14 ite-pwned? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931354) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:00 PM Author: greedy goal in life principal's office also, have u taken shit all the way thru trial? how did u learn to do this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931374) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:01 PM Author: Crystalline Exhilarant Gunner no, i've been able to work favorable deals for all my clients so far.
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:02 PM Author: greedy goal in life principal's office how did u learn what you know about the practice? other attorneys help u? did u get books on it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931392) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:04 PM Author: Crystalline Exhilarant Gunner books and other attorneys 'crim law and procedure' is godsent, also DUI bible, but mostly other attorneys. i just make small talk and ask them how i do something if they seem nice, or i listen while they negotiate, and observe how they handle issues (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931404) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:01 PM Author: Crystalline Exhilarant Gunner t20 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931381) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:01 PM Author: Diverse Hall Sound Barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931380) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:02 PM Author: Crystalline Exhilarant Gunner yes, child rape. i took the case anyway and got the guy the best deal i could (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931389) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:03 PM Author: Diverse Hall Sound Barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931399) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:04 PM Author: Crystalline Exhilarant Gunner felt fine, the way i saw it if i didn't do it someone else would, this guy was entitled to proper representation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931410) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:06 PM Author: passionate obsidian fanboi "if i didn't do it someone else would"
That's a bullshit excuse
"this guy was entitled to proper representation"
That's a legitimate reason.
Just my opinion. |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:09 PM Author: greedy goal in life principal's office what r u supposed to do if you honestly believe the guy is guilty (even tho he claims innocence)? also, what is the procedure if the guy confesses to you (but not to the state)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931464) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:11 PM Author: passionate obsidian fanboi A criminal defendant can't be compelled to testify against himself, so you don't have to worry as much about perjury.
*knows nothing about criminal law* |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:16 PM Author: Boyish blathering station gaping there's nothing wrong with thinking that your client is guilty, but if you know that he is guilty you cant (read: arent supposed to) present perjured testimony. it's fine if he doesnt testify. MPRE FTW |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 7:43 PM Author: chocolate balding rehab client doesn't have to testify, so there is no problem with picking apart the prosecution's case (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933194) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:06 PM Author: Diverse Hall Sound Barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931428) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:07 PM Author: Crystalline Exhilarant Gunner ADAs only (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931443) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:07 PM Author: Diverse Hall Sound Barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931451) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:08 PM Author: Crystalline Exhilarant Gunner i'm on my own, but i know many more experienced lawyers do a lot of fed work. some specialize in child porn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931461) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:09 PM Author: Diverse Hall Sound Barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931468) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 7:43 PM Author: chocolate balding rehab i don't yet but i'm thinking summer 2011 i'll start (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933200) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 7:47 PM Author: Diverse Hall Sound Barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933222) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 7:52 PM Author: chocolate balding rehab maybe but college kids get to walk all the time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933274) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:11 PM Author: Diverse Hall Sound Barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931485) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 7:44 PM Author: chocolate balding rehab i did watch it, who was levy again? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933202) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 7:46 PM Author: Diverse Hall Sound Barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933213) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 7:48 PM Author: chocolate balding rehab he was a fucking baller (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933229) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 7:49 PM Author: Diverse Hall Sound Barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933241) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 7:52 PM Author: chocolate balding rehab he was on the ethics committee wtf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933266) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 7:56 PM Author: Diverse Hall Sound Barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933302) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 4:17 PM Author: spruce native how did you get your first few clients? how did you manage not to fuck up? how worried were you that you would fuck up? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15931560) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 7:45 PM Author: chocolate balding rehab referrals basically senior crim D lawyers sent them my way when the guys told them they could not afford their retainers. i met the crim D lawyers by first making appearances for them little shit like that. i was EXTREMELY worried but with the proper guide books and guides it's really not so hard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933209) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 7:58 PM Author: Provocative Well-lubricated Indirect Expression Seriously considering doing solo crim D right after law school.
How much do you get to do "appearances?"
How much did you have saved up before starting? (you can put it in # of months expenses b/c that'll make more sense to me) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 8:01 PM Author: chocolate balding rehab for appearances, anywhere from $50-200 depending on the lawyer and the purpose
i had about four months worth of expenses saved up, i ended up maxing out my credit cards before i had enough clients/work to pay my own expenses. halfway to paying them back down now, have a pretty solid flow of work coming in |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 8:03 PM Author: Provocative Well-lubricated Indirect Expression Thx for doing this.
So how many months did it take before you had positive cash flow?
How many connections did you have within your legal community when you began? How did you make new connections? |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 8:35 PM Author: Brindle cruel-hearted indian lodge income/projected income from first 12 months of being solo? projected for second 12 months (aka year 2)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15933658) |
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Date: August 31st, 2010 11:06 PM Author: Trip cumskin how do appearances work? does the attorney your appearing for still charge his normal rate?
how easy/hard is it to represent someone for simple drug possession? |
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Date: September 1st, 2010 12:20 AM Author: Scarlet stubborn yarmulke Ever hire an investigator? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1410741&forum_id=2#15936421) |