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America is barely even a first world country

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Ultramarine dragon
  09/25/13
I blame so-called diversity. America is doing GREAT if you e...
fishy haunting gaping
  09/25/13
and west virginia
Ultramarine dragon
  09/25/13
it's still not spectacular even if you do that, but the impo...
dashing balding fanboi useless brakes
  09/25/13
its more likely wed be a chinese style state: free market au...
chartreuse double fault
  09/25/13
i have devised a final solution to this problem.
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  09/25/13
this. racism actually provides a sort of distraction for ...
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what is the average weight of birdshit america? divorc...
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  09/25/13
Didn't read article. Why's having great prisons necessary fo...
shimmering bipolar knife
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the reason this won't work is a lot people would just commi...
claret confused turdskin institution
  09/25/13
societies with high levels of altruism, community norms, per...
dashing balding fanboi useless brakes
  09/25/13
3 good hots. a nice bed. internet. tv. gym. health care. den...
claret confused turdskin institution
  09/25/13
I forgot to mention that these countries also have flatter i...
dashing balding fanboi useless brakes
  09/25/13
who doesn't? we are up there with feudal europe.
claret confused turdskin institution
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You could easily make a list of a million reasons why Americ...
garnet home
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TIRED OF WINNING
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TIRED OF SCHOOL SHOOTINGS
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superior anglo culture
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maybe sit this one TF out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...
self-absorbed milky whorehouse
  08/12/25
damn bro tons of schoolkids in korea getting shot up daily
fantasy-prone candlestick maker reading party
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white men at american colleges dont get shot though for sure
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  09/11/25
white females dont get shot daily either
fantasy-prone candlestick maker reading party
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like the one in minnesota
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Its what I'd call a "fourth world" country. It has...
frum toilet seat hissy fit
  05/26/22
most americans don't even have $1,000 saved up for an emerge...
onyx cowardly idiot shrine
  05/26/22
jfc
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Yet somehow the proles I work with all have the latest "...
fishy haunting gaping
  05/26/22
too bad no faggy "apps" cause sterilization
onyx cowardly idiot shrine
  05/26/22
It's almost like the rise of the nuclear family destroys cul...
Slippery cuckoldry
  06/22/22
it's barely a 3rd world country
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  03/25/24
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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:06 AM
Author: Ultramarine dragon

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/09/why-scandinavian-prisons-are-superior/279949/?google_editors_picks=true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#24109834)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:07 AM
Author: fishy haunting gaping

I blame so-called diversity. America is doing GREAT if you exclude the browns and blacks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#24109838)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:09 AM
Author: Ultramarine dragon

and west virginia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#24109844)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:11 AM
Author: dashing balding fanboi useless brakes

it's still not spectacular even if you do that, but the important thing to remember is that an america without minorities would be a socialist paradise much like sweden because we'd have higher levels of social trust which would help every single institution function better, political shitparties wouldn't be able to exploit racial divisions to pwn us with their corporatist agendas, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#24109847)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:20 AM
Author: chartreuse double fault

its more likely wed be a chinese style state: free market authoritarianism. the capitalist narrative is too strong in are country types to allow for socialism, but they give zero fucks about corporatism or really even corruption

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#24109874)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:23 AM
Author: claret confused turdskin institution

i have devised a final solution to this problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#24109879)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 6:21 AM
Author: Bisexual domesticated windowlicker cumskin

this.

racism actually provides a sort of distraction for Americans. without racism, it'd just be outright ruthless competition with everyone like China.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#24109996)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:08 PM
Author: Blue Private Investor House

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#49296788)



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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:31 AM
Author: frum toilet seat hissy fit

what is the average weight of birdshit america?

divorce rate?

meth addiction?

education levels?

ljl birdshit amerikkka is not doing great u dumb moron

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#44575767)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 12:22 AM
Author: frum toilet seat hissy fit

Yes US birdshits are so thin and gorgeous with great family values and working hard studying STEM and stuff not snorting meth all day and trying to rape 12yo AZN girls.... Good stuff!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#47530791)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:07 PM
Author: Blue Private Investor House

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:14 AM
Author: Talented spot keepsake machete

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#24109859)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:15 AM
Author: shimmering bipolar knife

Didn't read article. Why's having great prisons necessary for being a first world country? IMO, it would be better to have NO prisons at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#24109863)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:17 AM
Author: claret confused turdskin institution

the reason this won't work is a lot people would just commit crimes to get put in a sweet living situation that is way better than you can achieve on the outside. the dude who shot up the camp surely live better than debt strapped millenials.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#24109870)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:35 AM
Author: dashing balding fanboi useless brakes

societies with high levels of altruism, community norms, personal investment in the public good, etc, can get away with it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#24109897)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:42 AM
Author: claret confused turdskin institution

3 good hots. a nice bed. internet. tv. gym. health care. dentist. shrinks if you need it. better than i have lived since leaving ug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#24109910)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:57 AM
Author: dashing balding fanboi useless brakes

I forgot to mention that these countries also have flatter income distributions than the US

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#24109923)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 5:18 AM
Author: claret confused turdskin institution

who doesn't? we are up there with feudal europe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#24109954)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 6:15 AM
Author: garnet home

You could easily make a list of a million reasons why America sucks, but this isn't one of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#24109988)



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Date: June 3rd, 2020 1:04 AM
Author: fantasy-prone candlestick maker reading party

TIRED OF WINNING

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#40335228)



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Date: May 26th, 2022 2:58 AM
Author: fantasy-prone candlestick maker reading party

TIRED OF SCHOOL SHOOTINGS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#44575701)



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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:29 AM
Author: fantasy-prone candlestick maker reading party

superior anglo culture

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#44575763)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 1:13 AM
Author: fantasy-prone candlestick maker reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#49177197)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 1:15 AM
Author: self-absorbed milky whorehouse

maybe sit this one TF out

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seung-Hui_Cho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#49177204)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 1:18 AM
Author: fantasy-prone candlestick maker reading party

damn bro tons of schoolkids in korea getting shot up daily

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#49177211)



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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:03 AM
Author: fantasy-prone candlestick maker reading party

white men at american colleges dont get shot though for sure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#49253914)



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Date: September 11th, 2025 6:47 PM
Author: fantasy-prone candlestick maker reading party

white females dont get shot daily either

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#49257404)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 7:09 PM
Author: fantasy-prone candlestick maker reading party

like the one in minnesota

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#49570533)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 7:39 PM
Author: fantasy-prone candlestick maker reading party

It's absolutely fine.

Date: January 29th, 2017 9:49 PM

Author: lawman8

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508473&forum_id=2#32494554

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#49570636)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 9:15 PM
Author: fantasy-prone candlestick maker reading party

like portland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#49570915)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:26 PM
Author: nyuug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#49573963)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 11:24 PM
Author: fantasy-prone candlestick maker reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#49571159)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 1:08 AM
Author: fantasy-prone candlestick maker reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#49571352)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 6:34 PM
Author: nyuug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#49573608)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:18 PM
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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:55 PM
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Date: January 7th, 2026 8:49 PM
Author: fantasy-prone candlestick maker reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#49570844)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 9:17 PM
Author: self-absorbed milky whorehouse

YEAH superior gook culture where teachers stab innocent 8 year olds is much better! DURR DURR

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj3zer88yrzo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#49570919)



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Date: September 14th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: fantasy-prone candlestick maker reading party



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Date: August 14th, 2025 9:57 PM
Author: fantasy-prone candlestick maker reading party



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Date: August 17th, 2025 5:44 PM
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Date: August 18th, 2025 11:21 PM
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Date: August 21st, 2025 6:46 PM
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Date: August 26th, 2025 12:56 AM
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Date: September 15th, 2025 8:25 PM
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Date: September 16th, 2025 8:38 PM
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 8:32 PM
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Date: September 24th, 2025 8:14 PM
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Date: October 7th, 2025 10:32 PM
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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:05 PM
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Date: October 15th, 2025 1:43 AM
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Date: July 15th, 2024 12:20 AM
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PRESIDENTIAL SHOOTINGS

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Date: July 16th, 2024 6:43 PM
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Date: September 15th, 2025 10:46 PM
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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:07 PM
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Date: September 28th, 2025 5:27 PM
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MUH MICHIGAN MORMONS

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Date: October 2nd, 2025 1:00 AM
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Date: October 15th, 2025 8:48 PM
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Date: March 27th, 2024 12:21 AM
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Date: March 27th, 2024 4:27 AM
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Date: March 27th, 2024 8:31 PM
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Date: April 2nd, 2024 9:36 PM
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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:31 AM
Author: frum toilet seat hissy fit

Its what I'd call a "fourth world" country. It has TONS of things that dont exist in real first world countries like gun violence or mass obesity but these things also don't exist in most "third world" countries. The US is really unique in how furking shit it is. Truly amazing what a shithole country has been created, Mexico looks like it has a brighter future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#44575766)



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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:34 AM
Author: onyx cowardly idiot shrine

most americans don't even have $1,000 saved up for an emergency. even syrian refugees could come up with a few grand to escape when the war started.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#44575771)



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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:35 AM
Author: fantasy-prone candlestick maker reading party

jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#44575775)



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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:39 AM
Author: fishy haunting gaping

Yet somehow the proles I work with all have the latest "phone" with every accessory hmmm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#44575777)



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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:45 AM
Author: onyx cowardly idiot shrine

too bad no faggy "apps" cause sterilization

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#44575784)



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Date: June 22nd, 2022 12:11 PM
Author: Slippery cuckoldry

It's almost like the rise of the nuclear family destroys cultures

You know is doing fine? Proles who live near extended family. Got a kid? Fifty different cousins can come by to take care of the kid when you're sick or have to travel for work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#44723225)



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Date: June 22nd, 2022 12:10 PM
Author: green church

it's barely a 3rd world country

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2#44723215)



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Date: June 22nd, 2022 12:20 PM
Author: Nofapping Razzle Hall Puppy

Lololol. Oh jeez what is the difference? What policy do the Scandinavians have that we just need to adopt that will make everything here work like everything there?

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Date: March 25th, 2024 11:20 PM
Author: Turquoise location



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Date: March 27th, 2024 12:23 AM
Author: frum toilet seat hissy fit

The US was never first world anyway these terms are stupid now so much of what u birdbrains consider third world does many things better than US... Like wtf are there barely any hobos or mentally deranged or fats in Laos

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Date: August 14th, 2025 9:59 PM
Author: Alcoholic lodge sneaky criminal

is the implication that america is third world because we dont have enough Anders Breiviks and we don't reward them with things like Console Gaming for their Acts of Heroism

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