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seedy canary depressive
  02/24/19
https://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/09/barbarous-relic...
Orange Ceo
  02/24/19
He’s such a jackass
Tan multi-colored messiness
  07/28/19
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seedy canary depressive
  07/28/19
"blaming" is a pretty sweet euphemism.
ruby box office
  07/28/19
It was nice when she blasted that guy about Stock Buybacks
Supple meetinghouse
  07/28/19
remember when Krugkike predicted global economic collapse th...
nudist temple
  07/28/19


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Date: February 24th, 2019 1:16 PM
Author: seedy canary depressive



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Date: February 24th, 2019 1:36 PM
Author: Orange Ceo

https://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/09/barbarous-relics/

I feel comfortable in my understanding of the economics of the platinum coin, but don’t claim any legal expertise. However, Laurence Tribe knows whereof he speaks — and he says that it’s quite legal. And so there you have it: if we have a crisis over the debt ceiling, it will be only because the Treasury department would rather see economic devastation than look silly for a couple of minutes.

There will, of course, be howls from the usual suspects if that’s how it goes. Some of these will be howls of frustration because their hostage-taking plan was frustrated. But some will reflect sincere horror over a policy turn that their cosmology says must be utterly disastrous.

Ed Kilgore says, in a somewhat different way, much the same thing I and people like Joe Weisenthal have been saying: what we’re looking at here is a collision of worldviews, one might even say of epistemology.

For many people on the right, value is something handed down from on high It should be measured in terms of eternal standards, mainly gold; I have, for example, often seen people claiming that stocks are actually down, not up, over the past couple of generations because the Dow hasn’t kept up with the gold price, never mind what it buys in terms of the goods and services people actually consume.

And given that the laws of value are basically divine, not human, any human meddling in the process is not just foolish but immoral. Printing money that isn’t tied to gold is a kind of theft, not to mention blasphemy.

For people like me, on the other hand, the economy is a social system, created by and for people. Money is a social contrivance and convenience that makes this social system work better — and should be adjusted, both in quantity and in characteristics, whenever there is compelling evidence that this would lead to better outcomes. It often makes sense to put constraints on our actions, e.g. by pegging to another currency or granting the central bank a high degree of independence, but these are things done for operational convenience or to improve policy credibility, not moral commitments — and they are always up for reconsideration when circumstances change.

Now, the money morality types try to have it both ways; they want us to believe that monetary blasphemy will produce disastrous results in practical terms too. But events have proved them wrong.

And I do find myself thinking a lot about Keynes’s description of the gold standard as a “barbarous relic”; it applies perfectly to this discussion. The money morality people are basically adopting a pre-Enlightenment attitude toward monetary and fiscal policy — and why not? After all, they hate the Enlightenment on all fronts.

The bottom line is that we aren’t really having a rational argument here. Nor can we: rationality has a well-known liberal bias.



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Date: July 28th, 2019 8:45 AM
Author: Tan multi-colored messiness

He’s such a jackass

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Date: July 28th, 2019 8:04 AM
Author: seedy canary depressive



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Date: July 28th, 2019 8:58 AM
Author: ruby box office

"blaming" is a pretty sweet euphemism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4208295&forum_id=2#38600222)



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Date: July 28th, 2019 9:13 AM
Author: Supple meetinghouse

It was nice when she blasted that guy about Stock Buybacks

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Date: July 28th, 2019 9:35 AM
Author: nudist temple

remember when Krugkike predicted global economic collapse the day after Trump

won?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4208295&forum_id=2#38600287)