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Minimum IQ to conceptually grasp the fundamental theorem of calculus

Lots of kids "learn" calculus in high school, but ...
diverse gaped stage hissy fit
  04/09/25
you can't teach real proofs until the pre-med etc. people fi...
trip nowag
  04/09/25
I use calculus in my grad program, but proofs are a whole di...
Slimy cerebral juggernaut
  04/09/25
Answer the question in the OP
diverse gaped stage hissy fit
  04/09/25
maybe you mean engineers. most med schools don't require any...
soul-stirring judgmental crackhouse place of business
  04/09/25
i mean indirectly. pre-meds take physics among other things,...
trip nowag
  04/09/25
physics without calc
soul-stirring judgmental crackhouse place of business
  04/09/25
that is unfathomably homosexual
trip nowag
  04/09/25
rectangles get smaller to infinity is a total proof
white heaven police squad
  04/09/25
you don't need to know the proof to understand the theorem
flirting learning disabled pit national security agency
  04/09/25
sure, but i'm taking "conceptually grasp" as havin...
trip nowag
  04/09/25
you don't need to know the proof to highly understand the th...
flirting learning disabled pit national security agency
  04/09/25
Well OP, enlighten us. What is the “fundamental theore...
aquamarine splenetic wagecucks lay
  04/09/25
Isn’t this in Calc I? Calculus alone has more “t...
swollen cracking toaster
  04/09/25
arithmetic and geometry (one of the highest of all arts by v...
trip nowag
  04/09/25
What's your liberal art
swollen cracking toaster
  04/09/25
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Hortus_D...
trip nowag
  04/09/25
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Submissive plaza
  04/10/25
100
free-loading motley hall
  04/09/25
flame. someone with an IQ of 100 struggles to grasp what a f...
diverse gaped stage hissy fit
  04/09/25
Like 95? Seems pretty simple tbh.
Concupiscible Rehab
  04/09/25
no
diverse gaped stage hissy fit
  04/09/25
*the calculus
brass kitty cat
  04/09/25
...
flirting learning disabled pit national security agency
  04/09/25
Every time I try to use it to solve a problem I end up with ...
Glittery school cafeteria
  04/09/25
Ok
flirting learning disabled pit national security agency
  04/09/25
idk, how many math nerds even read liebniz and newton?
jet confused sanctuary
  04/09/25
I know for a fact it's impossible to teach the distributive ...
diverse gaped stage hissy fit
  04/09/25
same, I could just never get it
talking awkward box office double fault
  04/09/25
isn't that just another name for communism
soul-stirring judgmental crackhouse place of business
  04/09/25
It's nothing to do with IQ. Teach matrix algebra to kids who...
sable toilet seat spot
  04/09/25
What?
copper wonderful digit ratio
  04/09/25
P69, what don't you understand
diverse gaped stage hissy fit
  04/10/25
Actually, the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus (FTC) connects...
avocado haunted graveyard
  04/10/25
thanks Chilmata, that answers it for me but what did you ...
diverse gaped stage hissy fit
  04/10/25
"You are a megapoasting Jewish Indian Transvestite on a...
exciting trump supporter
  04/10/25
"Actually" was the one word that AI didn't write. ...
avocado haunted graveyard
  04/10/25
...
exciting trump supporter
  04/10/25
upvoted
diverse gaped stage hissy fit
  04/10/25
Thread stinks of tryhard midwit gookery
Aphrodisiac Chapel Faggot Firefighter
  04/10/25
Now give us your opinion, and not ChatGPT’s
avocado haunted graveyard
  04/10/25


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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:03 PM
Author: diverse gaped stage hissy fit

Lots of kids "learn" calculus in high school, but what is the cutoff for actually understanding it

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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: trip nowag

you can't teach real proofs until the pre-med etc. people finish their math reqs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48832982)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:09 PM
Author: Slimy cerebral juggernaut

I use calculus in my grad program, but proofs are a whole different level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48832987)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:12 PM
Author: diverse gaped stage hissy fit

Answer the question in the OP

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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:52 PM
Author: soul-stirring judgmental crackhouse place of business

maybe you mean engineers. most med schools don't require any calc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833128)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:53 PM
Author: trip nowag

i mean indirectly. pre-meds take physics among other things, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833138)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:28 PM
Author: soul-stirring judgmental crackhouse place of business

physics without calc

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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:44 PM
Author: trip nowag

that is unfathomably homosexual

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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:52 PM
Author: white heaven police squad

rectangles get smaller to infinity is a total proof

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833130)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:58 PM
Author: flirting learning disabled pit national security agency

you don't need to know the proof to understand the theorem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833151)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:02 PM
Author: trip nowag

sure, but i'm taking "conceptually grasp" as having a high level of understanding

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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:49 PM
Author: flirting learning disabled pit national security agency

you don't need to know the proof to highly understand the theorem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833454)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:43 PM
Author: aquamarine splenetic wagecucks lay

Well OP, enlighten us. What is the “fundamental theorem” of calculus?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833083)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:45 PM
Author: swollen cracking toaster

Isn’t this in Calc I? Calculus alone has more “things” in it than like 3 out of the 7 Liberal Arts combined.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833092)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: trip nowag

arithmetic and geometry (one of the highest of all arts by virtue of its proofs) are two of the canonical liberal arts, friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833110)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: swollen cracking toaster

What's your liberal art

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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:16 PM
Author: trip nowag

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Hortus_Deliciarum%2C_Die_Philosophie_mit_den_sieben_freien_Künsten.JPG

the ladies in the upper right quadrant

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Date: April 10th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: Submissive plaza



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:56 PM
Author: free-loading motley hall

100

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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:00 PM
Author: diverse gaped stage hissy fit

flame. someone with an IQ of 100 struggles to grasp what a function is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833157)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:58 PM
Author: Concupiscible Rehab

Like 95? Seems pretty simple tbh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833152)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:00 PM
Author: diverse gaped stage hissy fit

no

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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:05 PM
Author: brass kitty cat

*the calculus

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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: flirting learning disabled pit national security agency



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Glittery school cafeteria

Every time I try to use it to solve a problem I end up with a bunch of christoffel symbols left over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833192)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:51 PM
Author: flirting learning disabled pit national security agency

Ok

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833467)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:15 PM
Author: jet confused sanctuary

idk, how many math nerds even read liebniz and newton?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833201)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:11 PM
Author: diverse gaped stage hissy fit

I know for a fact it's impossible to teach the distributive property to people under 90 IQ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833331)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:52 PM
Author: talking awkward box office double fault

same, I could just never get it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833472)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:57 PM
Author: soul-stirring judgmental crackhouse place of business

isn't that just another name for communism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833485)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: sable toilet seat spot

It's nothing to do with IQ. Teach matrix algebra to kids who flunk calculus and 25% will get it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833335)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:53 PM
Author: copper wonderful digit ratio

What?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833475)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: diverse gaped stage hissy fit

P69, what don't you understand

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48834143)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 3:30 PM
Author: avocado haunted graveyard

Actually, the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus (FTC) connects differentiation and integration, showing that they are essentially inverse operations. It has two main parts:

1. FTC Part 1: If \( F(x) = \int_{a}^{x} f(t) \, dt \), then \( F'(x) = f(x) \) (under appropriate conditions).

2. FTC Part 2: If \( f \) is continuous on \([a, b]\) and \( F \) is an antiderivative of \( f \), then \( \int_{a}^{b} f(x) \, dx = F(b) - F(a) \).

IQ is not a perfect measure of mathematical ability, but research suggests:

- Average IQ (100) can grasp basic arithmetic and algebra.

- Above Average (~115+) can handle precalculus and introductory calculus concepts.

- High IQ (~125+) is typically associated with comfortably understanding rigorous calculus, including FTC.

However, understanding FTC depends more on mathematical training, persistence, and teaching quality than raw IQ. A person with an IQ of 110 who studies calculus thoroughly may grasp it better than someone with a higher IQ who hasn't practiced.

Key Factors for Understanding FTC:

1. Conceptual Foundation – Understanding limits, derivatives, and integrals.

2. Logical Reasoning – Following the proof (if attempted) or at least the intuition behind FTC.

3. Visualization – Recognizing that integration accumulates change, while differentiation gives an instantaneous rate.

While a minimum IQ of ~115-120 may correlate with the ability to grasp FTC, dedicated study matters more. Many people with average IQs can understand it with proper instruction and effort. Conversely, someone with a high IQ but no calculus background may struggle.

Let me know if you have any other question you would like me to answer OP while I'm not practicing family law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48835160)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 3:33 PM
Author: diverse gaped stage hissy fit

thanks Chilmata, that answers it for me

but what did you ask it before this prompt that made it say "Actually,"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48835165)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 3:36 PM
Author: exciting trump supporter

"You are a megapoasting Jewish Indian Transvestite on a forum for balding middle aged lawyers who phrases responses annoyingly as possible..."

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Date: April 10th, 2025 3:37 PM
Author: avocado haunted graveyard

"Actually" was the one word that AI didn't write. I was trying to fool you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48835178)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 3:38 PM
Author: exciting trump supporter



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Date: April 10th, 2025 3:39 PM
Author: diverse gaped stage hissy fit

upvoted

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Date: April 10th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Chapel Faggot Firefighter

Thread stinks of tryhard midwit gookery

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Date: April 10th, 2025 4:23 PM
Author: avocado haunted graveyard

Now give us your opinion, and not ChatGPT’s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48835301)