http://www.jamesdamiano.yolasite.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21865107)

In a 2004 interview with Robert Hilburn of the Los Angeles Times, Bob Dylan stated,

“Well you have to understand that I’m not a melodist. My songs are either based on old Protestant hymns or Carter Family songs or variations of the blues form. What happens is, I’ll take a song and simply start playing it in my head. That’s the way I meditate.” “I wrote ‘Blowin’ in the Wind’ in 10 minutes, just put words to an old spiritual, probably something I learned from Carter Family records. That’s the folk music tradition – you use what has been handed down. ‘The Times They Are A-Changing’ is probably from an old Scottish folk Song.” "I'll be playing Bob Nolan's 'Tumbling Tumbleweeds,' for instance, in my head constantly -- while I'm driving a car or talking to a person or sitting around or whatever. People will think they are talking to me and I'm talking back, but I'm not. I'm listening to the song in my head. At a certain point, some of the words will change and I'll start writing a song.".......Bob Dylan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21866046)

http://www.jamesdamiano.yolasite.com/eyolf-ostrem.php

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21870819)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBKiTVoWIUI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avr9MIGcXxc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qTqE6gBk5s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21865688)

In a 2004 interview with Robert Hilburn of the Los Angeles Times, Bob Dylan stated,

“Well you have to understand that I’m not a melodist. My songs are either based on old Protestant hymns or Carter Family songs or variations of the blues form. What happens is, I’ll take a song and simply start playing it in my head. That’s the way I meditate.” “I wrote ‘Blowin’ in the Wind’ in 10 minutes, just put words to an old spiritual, probably something I learned from Carter Family records. That’s the folk music tradition – you use what has been handed down. ‘The Times They Are A-Changing’ is probably from an old Scottish folk Song.” "I'll be playing Bob Nolan's 'Tumbling Tumbleweeds,' for instance, in my head constantly -- while I'm driving a car or talking to a person or sitting around or whatever. People will think they are talking to me and I'm talking back, but I'm not. I'm listening to the song in my head. At a certain point, some of the words will change and I'll start writing a song.".......Bob Dylan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21865710)

On June 16th 2009 the following letter was sent to Bob Dylan's Attorney Orin Snyder written by James Damiano's Attorney in the Bob Dylan Damiano Plagiarism suit "Robert Church" regarding boxes of James Damiano's songs produced to Orin Snyder during discovery

There were approximately fifteen to twenty five boxes filled with anywhere from 200 to 400 finished and unfinished songs in each box (thirty five years of writing) that were never returned

Dear Mr. Snyder:

I have one other matter. Mr. Damiano informs me that Steven Kramer (James Damiano's lead attorney) had several boxes of songs delivered to Parcher & Hayes during the discovery phase of his case against Dylan. Mr. Kramer never made copies of the documents, since I am presuming he felt pressed to comply with an overdue discovery request. Mr. Damiano informs me that he has never had all the original songs returned to his possession, even though the case is over. If you don’t mind, please explain what you can recall about Mr. Damiano’s song production. Do you still have songs unaccounted for? Can they be returned?

Sincerely Robert Church

See last paragraph in Robert Church's letter below

http://www.jamesdamiano.yolasite.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21865720)

Racism A diversion of Reality

That the worst segregation

In the world today

Is not between

Yellow Red Black or

White men

Muslims Jews or Christians

But between

The Rich and the poor

bob dylan copyright 1992

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21865783)

Racism A diversion of Reality

That the worst segregation

In the world today

Is not between

Yellow Red Black or

White men

Muslims Jews or Christians

But between

The Rich and the poor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21865879)

Bob Dylan's Stealing of James Damiano's Songs

No artist can lay claim to the controversy that has surrounded the career of songwriter James Damiano. Thirty two years ago James Damiano began an odyssey that led him into a legal maelstrom with Bob Dylan that, to this day, fascinates the greatest of intellectual minds.

Since auditioning for the legendary CBS Record producer John Hammond, Sr., who influenced the careers of music industry icons Charlie Christian, Billy Holiday, Bob Dylan, Pete Seger, Bruce Springsteen and Stevie Ray Vaughan , James has engaged in a half a billion dollar copyright infringement law suit with Bob Dylan.

As the curtain rises on the stage of deceit we learn that CBS / Sony international recording artist, Bob Dylan not only used songs and lyrics written by James Damiano but also solicited Mr. Damiano's materials for a period of over ten years and eleven months.

As per Judicial filings Bob Dylan's name is credited to the songs. One of those songs is nominated for a Grammy as the best rock song of the year. Ironically the title of that song is Dignity.

http://www.jamesdamiano.yolasite.com/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21865914)

http://dylanchords.info/faq.htm#dignity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21869891)

http://www.youtube.com/user/lawjournal1?feature=watch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21865981)

"Thirty two years ago James Damiano began an odyssey that led him into a legal maelstrom with Bob Dylan that, to this day, fascinates the greatest of intellectual minds."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21866055)

pretty sure this musicology phd just owned Cynthia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21869905)

Mr. Ostrem must believe that Bob Dylan can not afford a musicologist. We have on numerous times invited Mr. Ostrem to come and debate the issues of fact with us yet he refuses to.

We have been in correspondence with him in music forums in front of many people and he suggested we go into private messaging.

The following correspondence has occurred between James Damiano and Eyold Ostrem and James Damiano

Eyolf Ostrem, the self proclaimed, tone deaf wanna be Dylan musicologist is afraid to come here an debate the issues of fact in the Dylan / Damiano plagiarism, law suit. So let me cite a few facts. Dylan or his attorneys have paid people in the past to follow Damiano around the internet and make derogatory remarks against Damiano. It is probable that Mr. Ostrem is one of them.

Another fact Mr. Ostrem left out is that Dr. Greene's analysis was corroborated by Sebastian Courrier from Julliard and by John Bon Jovi's piano teacher Harold Frazee from Berkley School of Music. So the only conclusion left is that Eyolf Ostrem is truly tone deaf. like I said his music supports that theory.

I am also sure that with all Dylan's money he could have found a musicologist with "scholarly" credentials to present a comparative analysis to refute Dr. Greene's analysis if it were possible, however no musicologist has ever been presented. Reason being is that the two songs in question "Dignity" and "Steel Guitars" contain the exact melodic arc as per Dr. Greene.

The closest thing I could see that might fit the bill is Mr. Ostrem but that would be impossible due to his impaired audio perception and I doubt Dylan would ever deal officially with Mr. Ostrem.

Next Mr. Ostrem refuses to comment on any of the statements published on Mr. Damiano's website and that have been officially produced to the court and that were also uncontested by Dylan himself such as the following statement:

"It is judicially uncontested by Bob Dylan and or Bob Dylan’s law firms Manatt, Phelps & Phillips , Parcher Hayes & Snyder, Gibson Dunn & Crutcher, Hecker Brown and Sherry, and Sony House Counsel that Bob Dylan and people in Bob Dylan’s entourage have solicited James Damiano’s songs and music for a period of over ten years and eleven months.

The fact that Mr. Ostem will not recognize the fact or comment on the above statement reveals his hypocrisy. I would also venture to say that Mr. Ostrem would also like to turn a deaf ear to the following statement and continue his crusade of bias against Damiano.

Again Mr. Ostrem refuses to address Damiano's published statement that has been produced to the court "The evidence in the Bob Dylan James Damiano Plagiarism Law suit was so incriminating to Bob Dylan that he entered a motion for a confidentiality order which was granted by Judge Joel B. Rosen and enforced by Judge Jerome B. Simandle designating all discovery materials confidential. Same behavior one would expect from Communist China."

So whoever get's the privileged opportunity to communicate with the "scholarly" Mr. Ostrem please have him address the mentioned issues in this message. Then we can go on to debate even more pertinent issues.

My bet is that Mr. Ostrem will not post this note on his website because he is trying to hide the truth.

Last but not least Mr. Ostrem has made derogatory comments about Damiano's lawsuit against Dylan, has deleted Damiano's website link off his website and blocked Damiano from posting any facts that support Damiano's case. This is Eyolf Ostrem's definition of scholarly debate.

Ostrem has also blocked Damiano from his facebook page. On top of it all Mr. Ostrem threatened to sue Damiano for calling him a weasel................ imagine that.

Eyolf Ostrem refused to include the link below on his website

http://jamesdamiano.yolasite.com/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21870538)

But just look at him and you'll have a good laugh or better yet listen to his music and you'll never stop laughing

http://www.jamesdamiano.yolasite.com/eyolf-ostrem.php

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21870556)

“Well you have to understand that I’m not a melodist. My songs are either based on old Protestant hymns or Carter Family songs or variations of the blues form. What happens is, I’ll take a song and simply start playing it in my head. That’s the way I meditate". “I wrote ‘Blowin’ in the Wind’ in 10 minutes, just put words to an old spiritual, probably something I learned from Carter Family records. That’s the folk music tradition – you use what has been handed down. ‘The Times They Are A-Changing’ is probably from an old Scottish folk Song.”...."I'll be playing Bob Nolan's 'Tumbling Tumbleweeds,' for instance, in my head constantly -- while I'm driving a car or talking to a person or sitting around or whatever. People will think they are talking to me and I'm talking back, but I'm not. I'm listening to the song in my head. At a certain point, some of the words will change and I'll start writing a song.".......Bob Dylan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21870592)

Not true look at the old album covers "All songs written by Bob Dylan"

"In light of statements made by Bob Dylan in his latest interviews regarding plagiarism, there is no need for him to admit that he plagiarized James Damiano's Songs, it's a given, it's also public knowledge, documented at that. The depositions and Mr. Dylan's interviews speak for themselves There is no debate. What can one say but that facts are facts"......Managing Editor The New York Times

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBKiTVoWIUI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avr9MIGcXxc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qTqE6gBk5s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21870621)

http://www.jamesdamiano.yolasite.com/eyolf-ostrem.php

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21870678)

Anonymous = One of Dylan's no talent Isis Lawyers

LOL

After thirty-five hours of video taped depositions, and after three and a half million dollars have been spent on this litigation, defendants Sony Music and or Bob Dylan still to this date September 18th 2012, have never filed a counter, slander or libel suit against Damiano. Defendants have been aware of James Damiano's public statements made against Bob Dylan for over ten years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBKiTVoWIUI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avr9MIGcXxc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qTqE6gBk5s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21870723)

LOL. I'm right and you know it. That's why you answer with this dumb fuck reply.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21870731)

Right You probably tell yourself that all the time right?

I'm an attorney

I'm an attorney

I'm an attorney

I'm an attorney

You're pathetic

“Well you have to understand that I’m not a melodist. My songs are either based on old Protestant hymns or Carter Family songs or variations of the blues form. What happens is, I’ll take a song and simply start playing it in my head. That’s the way I meditate". “I wrote ‘Blowin’ in the Wind’ in 10 minutes, just put words to an old spiritual, probably something I learned from Carter Family records. That’s the folk music tradition – you use what has been handed down. ‘The Times They Are A-Changing’ is probably from an old Scottish folk Song.”...."I'll be playing Bob Nolan's 'Tumbling Tumbleweeds,' for instance, in my head constantly -- while I'm driving a car or talking to a person or sitting around or whatever. People will think they are talking to me and I'm talking back, but I'm not. I'm listening to the song in my head. At a certain point, some of the words will change and I'll start writing a song.".......Bob Dylan

http://www.jamesdamiano.yolasite.com/plaintiffs-motion-for-default-against-bob-dylan1.php

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21870761)

http://www.jamesdamiano.yolasite.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21870798)

FOLK LIES: Joni Mitchell Outs Bob Dylan

by Jonny Whiteside 28 Apr 2010 1 post a comment

"Bob [Dylan] is not authentic at all. He's a plagiarist, and his name and voice are fake. Everything about Bob is a deception. We are like night and day, he and I." -- Joni Mitchell, Los Angeles Times, April 22, 2010

Caterwauling Canuck "folk singer" Joni Mitchell got just about everybody riled up with that sweet morsel of self-serving insight, but the real shock is not that Mitchell is absolutely correct but that someone finally came out and said it. After decades of carefully manicured deification by Columbia Records, brain-dead rock critics and the slimy elite institution that elevated such barely able snake-oil salesmen as Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger to celestial heights, it's high time to flout indoctrination and examine Dylan's track record as a Grade-A phony.

Bob-Dylan

Most Dylan fans would be stunned to realize that his vocal style (for lack of a better term) was high-jacked, in its entirety, from long-dead bluegrass-country singer Carter Stanley. We're not talking about an influence, like Lefty Frizzell for Merle Haggard, but a total appropriation of Stanley's highly idiosyncratic approach. A counterfeit from the get-go, once Dylan realized what an advantage his audience's innate ignorance was, he's exploited it ever since.

Just type "Bob Dylan plagiarism" into your friendly search engine, and a plethora of questionable circumstances pop up, enrobing the singer almost as completely as his years of reflexive media fawning have. Documented from his teenage start, when he submitted a hand written, thinly revised version of country star Hank Snow's "Little Buddy" for publication as an original poem, to his 1963 pilferage of Irish poet Dominic Behan's “Patriot Game”'s melody for the similarly slanted Dylan tune "With God on Our Side" to songwriter James Damiano's ongoing multimillion dollar copyright infringement suit (alleging Dylan's Grammy-nominated "Dignity" is nothing but an altered version of Damiano's "Steel Guitars") to the naked "Red Sails in the Sunset" melody heist for the song "Beyond The Horizon" on his Modern Times album, up through the recent Confessions of a Yakuza-Love & Theft plagiarism charges (Love & Theft? Calling Dr. Freud!), the Timrod controversy, even the numerous passages of Proust and Jack London that (re) appear in the text of Dylan's autobiography, it's a deep, dark thicket of thoroughly damning and apparently chronic bootlegging. Naturally, Dylan has said nothing publicly about any of these, but he already spent over three million dollars defending himself against one-time affiliate Damiano--the classic delay-to-destroy court room technique.

Defenders and apologist have an extraordinary array of excuses on Zim's behalf, from use of "literary allusion" to his building a "cultural collage," or that his "borrowing" is "homage," to the more deliciously desperate "he obviously doesn't NEED to do it" (strangely, though, he always has). This instamatic, Clinton-ian excuse making serves only to further polish up the shine on Dylan's teflon hubris and to underscore the blind, Pavlovian worship which he has long enjoyed. Let's face it: as a lyricist, Dylan is crap, inarguably unworthy beside, say, Hank Cochran, Chuck Berry, Mickey Newbury or Jimi Hendrix ("All Along the Watchtower" plays as a lead balloon even for Hendrix, nearly deflating his Electric Ladyland masterpiece).

While we're endlessly told that "The pump don't work / cause the vandals took the handle" is vintage Dylan worthy of class room study, in truth it's little more than the wordy spew of a peripatetic rhyming dictionary who'll hang any phrase together as long as it fits. Metaphor is convenience, not expression for Dylan. His songs have also treated women quite badly: the entire attitude of “It Ain‘t Me, Babe“ is ugly; "Just Like a Woman" is nothing short of misogynistic, but, worst of all, Dylan’s sheer verbosity has ineradicably stained American pop music, and we’ve all had to suffer through the post-Dylan legacy of long-winded nonsense (“American Pie,” anyone?).

Dylan and Mitchell

The real tragedy is that none of these very well-documented and nigh irrefutable plagiarism charges will ever emerge from the shadows, as the Cult of Zimmerman’s hulking form casts a very, very long one. Even when the Hank Snow rip-off stared the world in its face, the strongest reaction was a nervous giggle and murmurs of youthful indiscretion. To capitulate the carefully constructed myth of folk music and Dylan’s subsequent installation as rock & roll’s poet laureate is unthinkable, a hot, hit-the-panic-button nightmare for generations of quiescent “hipsters“ never weaned from the million-selling Dylan teat. His socio-cultural mystique is also an industry-manufactured sham, one that very handily diverted attention away from genuine political stink-stirrers like the MC5 or the lysergic guerilla warfare of the 13th Floor Elevators.

As a junta-backed counter-culture figurehead, Dylan is ideal: a harmless, unoriginal patsy, a cute insouciant whose relentlessly self-involved stance never threatened anyone, save for the hazard of the droning lip service endlessly paid him. We should all praise Joni Mitchell for this overdue call-out (just don‘t ask us to listen to her records), but it’s unlikely that any in the Zim Cult will even consider the ramifications of her statement. But when you pile it up with all the rest, there’s a single conclusion to be made: Bob Dylan is an artistic (and ethical) fraud, one whose own fear of creativity has long since given way to an apparently lifelong practice of emulating his superiors by vampirism, siphoning off their intellectual blood and using it to top off his own under-baked efforts. Weirdly, even then, the results have been scarcely palatable.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2010/04/28/FOLK-LIES--Joni-Mitchell-Outs-Bob-Dylan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21870853)

by Jonny Whiteside 28 Apr 2010 1 post a comment

"Bob [Dylan] is not authentic at all. He's a plagiarist, and his name and voice are fake. Everything about Bob is a deception. We are like night and day, he and I." -- Joni Mitchell, Los Angeles Times, April 22, 2010

Caterwauling Canuck "folk singer" Joni Mitchell got just about everybody riled up with that sweet morsel of self-serving insight, but the real shock is not that Mitchell is absolutely correct but that someone finally came out and said it. After decades of carefully manicured deification by Columbia Records, brain-dead rock critics and the slimy elite institution that elevated such barely able snake-oil salesmen as Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger to celestial heights, it's high time to flout indoctrination and examine Dylan's track record as a Grade-A phony.

Bob-Dylan

Most Dylan fans would be stunned to realize that his vocal style (for lack of a better term) was high-jacked, in its entirety, from long-dead bluegrass-country singer Carter Stanley. We're not talking about an influence, like Lefty Frizzell for Merle Haggard, but a total appropriation of Stanley's highly idiosyncratic approach. A counterfeit from the get-go, once Dylan realized what an advantage his audience's innate ignorance was, he's exploited it ever since.

Just type "Bob Dylan plagiarism" into your friendly search engine, and a plethora of questionable circumstances pop up, enrobing the singer almost as completely as his years of reflexive media fawning have. Documented from his teenage start, when he submitted a hand written, thinly revised version of country star Hank Snow's "Little Buddy" for publication as an original poem, to his 1963 pilferage of Irish poet Dominic Behan's “Patriot Game”'s melody for the similarly slanted Dylan tune "With God on Our Side" to songwriter James Damiano's ongoing multimillion dollar copyright infringement suit (alleging Dylan's Grammy-nominated "Dignity" is nothing but an altered version of Damiano's "Steel Guitars") to the naked "Red Sails in the Sunset" melody heist for the song "Beyond The Horizon" on his Modern Times album, up through the recent Confessions of a Yakuza-Love & Theft plagiarism charges (Love & Theft? Calling Dr. Freud!), the Timrod controversy, even the numerous passages of Proust and Jack London that (re) appear in the text of Dylan's autobiography, it's a deep, dark thicket of thoroughly damning and apparently chronic bootlegging. Naturally, Dylan has said nothing publicly about any of these, but he already spent over three million dollars defending himself against one-time affiliate Damiano--the classic delay-to-destroy court room technique.

Defenders and apologist have an extraordinary array of excuses on Zim's behalf, from use of "literary allusion" to his building a "cultural collage," or that his "borrowing" is "homage," to the more deliciously desperate "he obviously doesn't NEED to do it" (strangely, though, he always has). This instamatic, Clinton-ian excuse making serves only to further polish up the shine on Dylan's teflon hubris and to underscore the blind, Pavlovian worship which he has long enjoyed. Let's face it: as a lyricist, Dylan is crap, inarguably unworthy beside, say, Hank Cochran, Chuck Berry, Mickey Newbury or Jimi Hendrix ("All Along the Watchtower" plays as a lead balloon even for Hendrix, nearly deflating his Electric Ladyland masterpiece).

While we're endlessly told that "The pump don't work / cause the vandals took the handle" is vintage Dylan worthy of class room study, in truth it's little more than the wordy spew of a peripatetic rhyming dictionary who'll hang any phrase together as long as it fits. Metaphor is convenience, not expression for Dylan. His songs have also treated women quite badly: the entire attitude of “It Ain‘t Me, Babe“ is ugly; "Just Like a Woman" is nothing short of misogynistic, but, worst of all, Dylan’s sheer verbosity has ineradicably stained American pop music, and we’ve all had to suffer through the post-Dylan legacy of long-winded nonsense (“American Pie,” anyone?).

Dylan and Mitchell

The real tragedy is that none of these very well-documented and nigh irrefutable plagiarism charges will ever emerge from the shadows, as the Cult of Zimmerman’s hulking form casts a very, very long one. Even when the Hank Snow rip-off stared the world in its face, the strongest reaction was a nervous giggle and murmurs of youthful indiscretion. To capitulate the carefully constructed myth of folk music and Dylan’s subsequent installation as rock & roll’s poet laureate is unthinkable, a hot, hit-the-panic-button nightmare for generations of quiescent “hipsters“ never weaned from the million-selling Dylan teat. His socio-cultural mystique is also an industry-manufactured sham, one that very handily diverted attention away from genuine political stink-stirrers like the MC5 or the lysergic guerilla warfare of the 13th Floor Elevators.

As a junta-backed counter-culture figurehead, Dylan is ideal: a harmless, unoriginal patsy, a cute insouciant whose relentlessly self-involved stance never threatened anyone, save for the hazard of the droning lip service endlessly paid him. We should all praise Joni Mitchell for this overdue call-out (just don‘t ask us to listen to her records), but it’s unlikely that any in the Zim Cult will even consider the ramifications of her statement. But when you pile it up with all the rest, there’s a single conclusion to be made: Bob Dylan is an artistic (and ethical) fraud, one whose own fear of creativity has long since given way to an apparently lifelong practice of emulating his superiors by vampirism, siphoning off their intellectual blood and using it to top off his own under-baked efforts. Weirdly, even then, the results have been scarcely palatable.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2010/04/28/FOLK-LIES--Joni-Mitchell-Outs-Bob-Dylan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21870876)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=qRe-ZBozwac

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21870886)

Christina, you know you can't win. The courts have spoken. You have tried your spam campaign for years, and you are mocked to your face and behind your back. When do you just quit? When do you just decide that your life is better if you spend your Tuesday nights doing something other than post the same shit over and over on anonymous chatblogs where you are ignored? Will you do this until you die? Aren't you concerned about how fuile your quest is? There's no way you can win. You should do something you like tomorrow, and take a day off this anti-Dylan schtick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21870877)

Newswire Bob Dylan says his critics are pussies who can rot in hell

by Sean O'Neal September 13, 2012

As the years slowly strip Bob Dylan of the legendarily patient demeanor and sunny disposition he once had for several weeks as a toddler, the 71-year-old artist has responded in typically Bob Dylan-esque fashion to longstanding accusations of plagiarism. Asked by Rolling Stone about lifting lines from Civil War-era poet Henry Timrod and Japanese author Junichi Saga on, respectively, 2006's Modern Times and 2001's Love And Theft, Dylan responded by pointing out the long history of quotation in folk and jazz, saying his sources are too obscure for anyone to care this much, and challenging his critics to do better before calling them pussies:

As far as Henry Timrod is concerned, have you even heard of him? Who's been reading him lately? And who's pushed him to the forefront? Who's been making you read him? And ask his descendants what they think of the hoopla. And if you think it's so easy to quote him and it can help your work, do it yourself and see how far you can get. Wussies and pussies complain about that stuff.

Dylan elaborates that this sort of criticism has its own rich history, comparing it to the infamous "Judas" incident heard on the "Royal Albert Hall" bootleg: "These are the same people that tried to pin the name Judas on me. Judas, the most hated name in human history!" Dylan says. "If you think you've been called a bad name, try to work your way out from under that. Yeah, and for what? For playing an electric guitar? As if that is in some kind of way equitable to betraying our Lord and delivering him up to be crucified. All those evil motherfuckers can rot in hell." Dylan then kicked over the table and stubbed out a cigar on the Rolling Stone reporter's forehead, or at least he did in our imagination.

Anyway, it's a bit early still, but MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM BOB DYLAN, pussies.

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Al Capwne

Last one to give a fuck... BOB DYLAN

(Edited by author 1 month ago)

09/13/2012 12:29 PM

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MyNameIsNoneOfYourGoddamnBusin

That is definetley not the mustache of a man who gives a fuck.

09/13/2012 12:30 PM

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RealityFTW

Nor is that a Christmas song written by a man who gives a fuck.

09/13/2012 12:30 PM

23 Likes

MyNameIsNoneOfYourGoddamnBusin

Maybe. It's not a song Dylan wrote (apart from the inserting the presidents' names).

09/13/2012 12:33 PM

4 Likes

Al Capwne

*strums guitar*

Jinglejanglejinglejangle Bells. Jinglejanglejinglejangle Bells.

Jingle alllllllllllll THEwaayyyyyyyyyyyeeeeee!!

FUCK IT.

Smashes guitar on Woodie Guthrie's grave; lights it on fire.

09/13/2012 12:35 PM

16 Likes

RealityFTW

MyName, I know but I don't want Bob Dylan to call me a wussy, pussy, or both.

09/13/2012 12:37 PM

5 Likes

Pep Streebeck

Hey, it's better than most contemporary Christmas ditties.

09/13/2012 12:38 PM

4 Likes

ColdGottoBe

MyNameIsNoneOfYourGoddamnBusin it's on a raffi christmas album my daughter has. I like this one better, duh.

here's the wikipedia on the song.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...

09/13/2012 12:42 PM

2 Likes

IF

MyNameIsNoneOfYourGoddamnBusin Actually, Dylan borrowed the president part (and the rest of his arrangement) from a band called Brave Combo.

09/13/2012 12:52 PM

Bob BalaBAM

IF As far as Brave Combo is concerned, have you even heard of them? Who's been listening to them lately? And who's pushed them to the forefront? And if you think it's so easy to quote them and it can help your

work, do it yourself and see how far you can get. Stop being a wussy and/or pussy by pointing this stuff out.

09/13/2012 01:05 PM

22 Likes

thewarfreak

I know Brave Combo. But, I went to school in Denton, TX.

09/13/2012 01:42 PM

2 Likes

GeoGreg

I own the Brave Combo CD where the song appears and saw them perform it live 20+ years ago.

I went to college in San Antonio, where they would occasionally visit from Denton.

09/13/2012 04:12 PM

Unregistered Peon

Ya- I will add that I too have seen Brave Combo live

09/13/2012 10:00 PM

varmints if you will

Or owns a mirror.

09/13/2012 12:31 PM

3 Likes

Al Neuman

I was certain Vincent Price was dead.

09/13/2012 12:32 PM

27 Likes

Scruffylove

He had to die in order for Dylan to claim it. There can be only one!

09/13/2012 12:41 PM

13 Likes

TTTWLAM

DR. PHIBES LIVES AGAIN!!!

(Man. You stole my gag.)

09/13/2012 04:59 PM

1 Like

ganews

Correct. It is the mustache of a Tom Waits.

09/13/2012 12:35 PM

1 Like

Al Capwne

TOM WAITS FOR NO MAN.

09/13/2012 12:36 PM

25 Likes

Jon Pertwees Shameless Gurning

Tom Waits for Snowman.

09/13/2012 01:24 PM

22 Likes

post crunk

Did he ever get that AV Club internship?

09/13/2012 08:17 PM

1 Like

Avatar Avatar

Pencil-thin, and proud of it, son!

09/13/2012 12:37 PM

3 Likes

Dr.Robuttnik

Douglas Fairbanks never gave a fuck

09/13/2012 12:42 PM

5 Likes

Dikachu

How did he do such great stunts with such little feet?

09/13/2012 12:46 PM

8 Likes

Pixie Solanas

senior AND junior!

09/13/2012 03:13 PM

LeFebre Jones

Symmetry between both halves of a mustache is for pussies.

09/13/2012 02:45 PM

1 Like

Pixie Solanas

or owns a mirror.

09/13/2012 03:12 PM

Fixda Fernback

Damn, not even one John Waters reference when talking about awesome pencil-thin mustaches? For shame, AV Clubbers. For shame.

09/14/2012 02:00 AM

1 Like

True Pud

I made a Waters' mustache comment! Look down!!

09/14/2012 12:57 PM

1 Like

True Pud

They'll stone you when you're on your roller blades

They'll stone you when you got the cancerAIDS

They'll stone you when you're trying to be first

Then they'll stone you when you're riding in a hearse

but Al would not feel so all alone

Al be postin' like he's stoned

09/13/2012 12:40 PM

38 Likes

Al Capwne

I learned the Art of Failed Firsties from the best.

*motions towards True Pud*

09/13/2012 12:51 PM

2 Likes

True Pud

*motions away from Al*

I don't....even know what to....

*falls off cliff*

09/13/2012 01:10 PM

4 Likes

Oh. That Knife...

He's at the top of the list of not signing up.

09/13/2012 12:42 PM

sarCCastro

He's tangled up in booooooooooooooooooooo!

09/13/2012 12:44 PM

4 Likes

joey.blowey

Booo? or Boooo-urns?

09/13/2012 02:43 PM

2 Likes

Unregistered Guy Named Eric

When it isn't even his turn to give a fuck, no less.

09/13/2012 01:21 PM

2 Likes

Zombie Jim Varney

AVC Headline:

DYLAN COMMENT CAUSES PUSSY RIOT!

09/13/2012 05:14 PM

1 Like

Eric J.A.

It is never his turn to give a fuck.

09/13/2012 07:01 PM

SouthofHeaven

This has been a great month for untouchably awesome old men yelling about stuff.

09/14/2012 07:49 AM

3 Likes

Craig J. Clark

Sorry, Bob, but you're wrong

"Ryan Murphy" is the most hated name in human history.

09/13/2012 12:31 PM

25 Likes

Dowd

::Ryan Murphy goes into an arms-flailing hissy fit, then writes a script about it::

09/13/2012 12:34 PM

3 Likes

SisterMaryFrancis

"You know, I like this concept of a glee club in high schools that has issues that modern teens can relate to. How can I put KISS songs into it?"

09/13/2012 12:58 PM

8 Likes

LeFebre Jones

Is Ryan Murphy the worst generation ever's Aaron Sorkin?

09/13/2012 02:52 PM

4 Likes

Pixie Solanas

He's the worst generation ever's Chuck Lorre.

09/13/2012 03:14 PM

3 Likes

Dowd

Ryan Murphy: "DON'T YOU CALL ME THAT! I'M GOING TO SCREAM SO LOUD THE WHOLE *COUNTRY* WILL HEAR! AND I'M GOING TO INCORPORATE JENNIFER LOPEZ INTO IT SOMEHOW!"

09/14/2012 01:09 AM

2 Likes

souse chef

So you've already seen the new Glee?

09/13/2012 12:35 PM

Craig J. Clark

Do I even have to?

09/13/2012 12:36 PM

8 Likes

souse chef

I'm trying not to. Thankfully it's delayed by football and I may be mercifully asleep before my boyfriend watches it tonight.

09/13/2012 12:40 PM

Dowd

souse chef 'Glee delayed by football.' Oh, the irony.

09/13/2012 01:54 PM

2 Likes

souse chef

Dowd It's Packers / Bears. There's nothing around here more important than that.

Not even regionals.

09/13/2012 03:11 PM

3 Likes

Scruffylove

But...but...American Horror Story...

EDIT: I meant But...butt...American Horror Story...

(Edited by author 1 month ago)

09/13/2012 12:42 PM

5 Likes

Craig J. Clark

Two words, Scruffylove: Rubber Tate.

09/13/2012 12:43 PM

Scruffylove

I refuse to believe that. Rubber Man is whoever we want him to be. Murphy gave us Burn Face Larry. Never forget. *eagle sheds a single tear*

09/13/2012 12:49 PM

1 Like

Reformed Calvinist

...still waiting for "rubberman reveal" to replace "jumped the shark" in the av club lexicon

09/13/2012 02:13 PM

fineoakstructure

Actually, a lot of Carolina Hurricanes fans are pretty excited about their top defensive prospect. He might even make the team...uh...whenever the NHL feels like having a season again.

09/13/2012 01:12 PM

The Thin White Duke Ellington

Ugh this is depressing. I just got an HD TV and now I can't watch Hockey Night in Canada on it? Whyyyyyyyyy.

09/13/2012 05:35 PM

fineoakstructure

Well, I've never been able to watch HNIC - but that's cause I live in the southern US.

09/13/2012 10:49 PM

mratfink

you are both wrong: at one time in my childhood i was called "Screech" that is tough to overcome let me tell you

09/13/2012 02:00 PM

4 Likes

Reformed Calvinist

I'd have to go with Hitler at this point. But yeah, i guess Judas was kind of a dick too.

09/13/2012 02:13 PM

2 Likes

Ebelslair

Yeah, I saw this video on the internet where Hitler was real upset that Dylan had gone electric.

09/13/2012 03:46 PM

5 Likes

Reformed Calvinist

he would be. welly mostly about Dylan being a jew, but also about going electric.

09/13/2012 07:32 PM

4 Likes

Hear God Laugh

Seriously, who was really that irate that Dylan lifted lines from other sources, obscure or not?

(Edited by author 1 month ago)

09/13/2012 12:31 PM

12 Likes

MyNameIsNoneOfYourGoddamnBusin

I was. I'm pretty anti-plaigarism. In fact, I think I'll say that anybody who plaigarizes is a pussy who can rot in hell.

09/13/2012 12:35 PM

22 Likes

Hear God Laugh

The Dylan examples of it are so minor.

09/13/2012 12:50 PM

3 Likes

bob101110101

I was. I'm pretty anti-plaigarism. In fact, I think I'll say that anybody who plaigarizes is a pussy who can rot in hell.

09/13/2012 01:35 PM

71 Likes

Welldoneson

and it's bob FTW!

09/13/2012 10:16 PM

Spencer Hastings

You've figured out how to copy-paste someone else's post and get three times as many likes as they did with it.

If I could master this technique, I WOULD RULE DISQUS!!!!

09/13/2012 10:38 PM

1 Like

i and 1

I had never heard about it. Is it just a phrase here and there, a nod to the other artists, or is it more significant than that?

09/13/2012 12:36 PM

1 Like

Hear God Laugh

Example: Timron wrote “There is a wisdom that grows up in strife“ and Dylan based the line "Where wisdom grows up in strife" off of it.

09/13/2012 12:48 PM

5 Likes

KenHR

God damn, that's _shameless_.

No wonder Dylan got pissy at the question.

09/13/2012 01:03 PM

9 Likes

i and 1

I read a short NYTimes article just now, and it doesn't completely lay out the instances (just one passage, basically, then a general discussion w/experts, etc.). Maybe he just regurgitated it unconsciously, having read the stuff recently, or thought he had done something more different to his memory of it than it turned out to be?

I can see how the "folk tradition" might contain this practice, including the lack of citation/credit, largely because the tradition has, I think, a folky/poor-ass-people type of origin probably. And a lot of the time, people would be quoting stuff others knew from other songs in the tradition, probably. But I'm just speculating, I don't really know about the tradition. And it makes sense that he'd still be operating that way in his songwriting, and it would be out of respect for how its done. Still, he's not only operating in that tradition anymore, and he's a famous guy making a lot of money off of these (I understand copyright and royalties have nothing to do with this situation, but there is still the issue of "credit"). If a song has more than one or two lines that similar to the other guy's work in it, it might be approaching the point where credit should be given explicitly, even if he would rather not be bothered, or thinks it would be disrespectful somehow to earlier folkies or whatever.

Because when Dylan says up there

As far as Henry Timrod is concerned, have you even heard of him?

I can't help but think: No, I haven't, but why not introduce us to him?

09/13/2012 01:06 PM

10 Likes

Mikosqz

Led Zeppelin-level, I think. Tunes by specific sources marked as "trad.darr" and traditional tunes marked as "Dylan".

09/14/2012 04:07 AM

Godot

He could have at least given a reference in MLA format.

09/13/2012 12:37 PM

31 Likes

MyNameIsNoneOfYourGoddamnBusin

Chicago or fuck off.

09/13/2012 12:41 PM

10 Likes

Tim Lieder

APA motherfucker.

09/13/2012 12:57 PM

4 Likes

MyNameIsNoneOfYourGoddamnBusin

No--anything parenthetical is barbaric and unprofessional.

09/13/2012 01:06 PM

2 Likes

Scruffylove

I will never accept APA until they recognize the Oxford comma, bitches.

09/13/2012 01:46 PM

13 Likes

Esse Quam Videri

When Bob Dylan blasted "wussies and pussies," he was referring specifically to Kate Turabian.

09/13/2012 03:30 PM

3 Likes

ThreekendatBernies

Who gives a fuck about an Oxford Comma?

09/13/2012 04:49 PM

1 Like

Ape Froman

Would you ask Darius Ruker that question?

09/13/2012 12:37 PM

4 Likes

joaquinstick

"Well maybe Bob Dylan sounds a lot like me. How come no one asks Bob Dylan 'Why do you sound so much like Darius Rucker?' "

09/13/2012 12:52 PM

7 Likes

Jimmy James

The answer being that they all think Darius Rucker is called "Hootie".

09/13/2012 01:59 PM

3 Likes

Hunsweasel

Depends. Can I ask him in Morse code, using a baseball bat and his skull as the transmission medium?

Only Wanna Be With You. Never forget.

09/13/2012 12:59 PM

5 Likes

Senator_Corleone

I like that album...

09/13/2012 02:34 PM

Pixie Solanas

Darius, all those honkeys in the band - did you lose a bet long ago?

09/13/2012 03:14 PM

2 Likes

Unreliable Narrator

Bret Easton Ellis.

09/13/2012 12:52 PM

2 Likes

Mrs Gods Instant Pancakes

I'm sure Dylan will be just as genial and accepting when I swipe the lyrics from "It's A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall" for my musical masterpiece. "There's a long history of quotation in folk and jazz," I'll tell him, "and besides, who's heard of you?"

09/13/2012 12:53 PM

6 Likes

Shock and Au Contraire

It kind of sounds like you think he wouldn't understand, but "Hard Rain" is pretty blatantly based on the extremely old folk ballad "Lord Randall."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

09/13/2012 01:35 PM

8 Likes

Bnr76

If stealing a line or a couplet from another song is plagarism than the whole genre of hip hop is plagarized. Hell, Rapper's Delight alone has been on pretty much every album ever released and verses from that song were stolen from Grandmster Caz's freestyles. It's all a rich tapestry of plagarism.

09/13/2012 04:39 PM

1 Like

Chris R.

Or every band from NJ these days that seems to be required to rework some Springsteen lyrics into their songs.

09/14/2012 09:31 AM

Tim Lieder

Santa Claus is probably pissed.

09/13/2012 12:56 PM

UncleJ

Idiot music critics. These are the same people who fall over themselves to proclaim how clever people are for sampling music (copy/paste, indeed).

09/14/2012 08:46 AM

1 Like

Dr.Robuttnik

I like the follow-up question by Rolling Stone:

"Seriously?"

09/13/2012 12:32 PM

10 Likes

wsvon

I'm surprised anyone in the Rolling Stone stable of writers didn't melt the instant they walked into the room with Bob Dylan, much like the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark. So as such, I'd bet that's the only word they could stammer out.

09/13/2012 12:39 PM

11 Likes

ComradeQuestions

Rolling Stone immediately gave the interview 5 stars.

09/13/2012 12:41 PM

39 Likes

Pixie Solanas

And put it in the "Rising Stars to Watch" column.

09/13/2012 03:15 PM

5 Likes

Oh. That Knife...

Dylan answered, 'Will Smith doesn't have to curse in his interviews, but I do. So fuck him and fuck you too. Pussies.'

09/13/2012 12:45 PM

29 Likes

Shock and Au Contraire

"How could answer that if you've got the nerve to ask me? You've got a lot of nerve asking a question like that!"

09/13/2012 12:54 PM

8 Likes

Handsome Companion

Would you ask Billy Bob Thornton that question?

09/13/2012 01:01 PM

11 Likes

Shock and Au Contraire

I'm amazed they could take Bruce Springsteen's cock out of their mouth long enough to ask.

09/13/2012 01:36 PM

5 Likes

Jean-Luc Prickhard

That's because it was firmly ensconced in Dave Marsh's mouth, and he ain't giving it up easily!

09/13/2012 02:14 PM

4 Likes

Esse Quam Videri

I'm waiting to see how Rolling Stone will decide that if any wrong was done here, it's ultimately the fault of the Bush Administration. "Dylan's lyrics nefariously altered due to a secret plan by Donald Rumsfeld!"

09/13/2012 03:36 PM

2 Likes

Jean-Luc Prickhard

In RS' defense, they're probably right.

09/13/2012 03:40 PM

3 Likes

Dowd

HE'S A WITCH!

09/13/2012 12:32 PM

ganews

Does he weigh the same as a duck, thus making him made of wood?

09/13/2012 12:39 PM

5 Likes

Oh. That Knife...

Build a bridge out of him!

09/13/2012 12:45 PM

2 Likes

Spice Weasel

And thus the most rickety bridge ever was born.

09/13/2012 12:59 PM

4 Likes

brillig

But can you not also make bridges out of stone?

...Oh yeah.

09/13/2012 01:03 PM

KenHR

He's a very small stone!

09/13/2012 12:58 PM

Oh. That Knife...

He has got a wart!

09/13/2012 01:37 PM

Potatohead

like... a rolling stone?

09/13/2012 02:13 PM

3 Likes

Fisting Dakota

I "liked" Potatohead's response, then felt a tiny bit meta about it.

09/13/2012 03:10 PM

leeharvey

MORE WITCHES!!!!

09/13/2012 01:58 PM

The Leader Is Good The Leader

I love my witches but where's my N-words?

09/13/2012 04:14 PM

1 Like

brillig

He turned me into a newt!

09/13/2012 01:41 PM

Childish Callow Gleam

...A newt?...

09/13/2012 02:12 PM

Gustav Gadon

It got better....

09/13/2012 02:21 PM

Reformed Calvinist

well...you got better

09/13/2012 02:15 PM

Baby Wants To Fuck

well, this kind of makes him a bit more badass in my books. he needed that growly old man spirit to match his haggard face. enough of the peace and love bullshit, its time to fuck up a bunch of pussy journalists.

09/13/2012 12:33 PM

7 Likes

Scruffylove

Seriously, why the fuck would they bring up the plagiarism thing? The man has written a ton of shit. He is one of the most prolific singer/songwriters ever. And most of his work is sheer genius. So he pays homage to a couple of obscure poets? Who the fuck cares? Pussies.

09/13/2012 12:46 PM

29 Likes

Boober Fraggle

Joni Mitchell verbally assaulted him to some newspaper a couple of years ago over the plagiarism accusations, but I'm pretty sure Joni Mitchell has never said a nice thing about another human being since 1973.

09/13/2012 12:50 PM

18 Likes

Scruffylove

I heard an interview of hers on NPR while I was in a music store. I thought they were interviewing an old black blues singer.

09/13/2012 12:54 PM

4 Likes

Tim Lieder

Angry hippies are the best.

09/13/2012 12:58 PM

13 Likes

Indiana Beach Crow

That's not completely true, she said she liked the song 'You Get What You Give', which means she indirectly praised The New Radicals by proxy.

09/13/2012 01:21 PM

3 Likes

Henry

On Theme Time Radio Hour, Dylan played a Joni Mitchell song, and then said "I've been a car with Joni. She's a good driver. I felt safe." Then he played the next song.

09/13/2012 02:02 PM

24 Likes

Mikosqz

Not sure if sarcasm.

09/14/2012 04:08 AM

Scruffylove

No. I think a lot of artists use lines or images from other artists. I think it builds a richer history in art. Like wearing your grandmother's ring or something like that.

09/14/2012 12:21 PM

Shock and Au Contraire

I'm confused, is the last thing you heard about Bob Dylan from 1963?

Here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

09/13/2012 12:47 PM

3 Likes

Scruffylove

That's why O'Neal's first line is so wonderful.

09/13/2012 12:56 PM

1 Like

Tim Lieder

And then there's Neighborhood Bully where he went through his uber-Zionist phase (pretty easy to get to that phase - just be pro-Israel and read a lot of whacky anti-Israel polemics and you go from "I hope that a peaceful resolution can be worked out" to "FUCK YOU! Kahane was right!" in about an hour)

09/13/2012 01:04 PM

3 Likes

Barnitosupreme

Bob Dylan just became more badass.

(Edited by author 1 month ago)

09/13/2012 12:34 PM

18 Likes

Tim Lieder

That Santa Claus video makes me think that he was a Generation X smartass born 30 years too soon.

No wonder the Baby Boomers always bitched about him.

09/13/2012 01:04 PM

10 Likes

Unregistered Guy Named Eric

Yeah, the headline made it sound like he went on some Charlie Sheen type crazy rant. But it's more him showing how hyperbolic the criticism is, rather than going over the top himself.

09/13/2012 01:23 PM

5 Likes

wsvon

He looks like he should be tying some damsel to the railroad tracks.

09/13/2012 03:10 PM

7 Likes

rev

He said "wussies?"

Who still says "wussies?"

09/13/2012 12:34 PM

Al Capwne

Pussies do.

09/13/2012 12:36 PM

15 Likes

Hank Toms

Pussies.

09/13/2012 12:36 PM

Al Capwne

FIRST......BOOYA!

09/13/2012 12:40 PM

3 Likes

True Pud

Who says "BOOYA"?

09/13/2012 01:14 PM

10 Likes

Gleeth Yurnix

Wussies. And sometimes wenises.

09/13/2012 01:26 PM

7 Likes

Scruffylove

True Pud : The talking Tostitos bag. BOOYA!

09/13/2012 01:48 PM

5 Likes

AF_Whigs

10 year olds?

09/13/2012 12:37 PM

2 Likes

belligerent and numerous

Maybe 10 year olds who are, in fact, pussies.

09/13/2012 12:44 PM

1 Like

Albino Horse Eye

BOB FUCKING DYLAN, THAT'S WHO. YA WUSSIE.

09/13/2012 12:37 PM

25 Likes

Al Capwne

He is the one that "WUSSIES."

09/13/2012 12:53 PM

2 Likes

Dowd

Stop that. Walter White is the only one who memes.

09/13/2012 02:01 PM

2 Likes

wsvon

Well, Bob does cause he's all about the rhyming. You know wussies and pussies sounds more melodic than motherfuckers and pussies. Always writing songs, that one is.

09/13/2012 12:41 PM

19 Likes

rev

I wonder who wrote that line for him.

09/13/2012 12:50 PM

4 Likes

i and 1

I'm thinking was it maybe from Animal House...?

09/13/2012 01:09 PM

2 Likes

brillig

He's truly a poet for America.

09/13/2012 01:04 PM

Scruffylove

It rhymed, goddammit!

09/13/2012 12:46 PM

3 Likes

ColdGottoBe

I do when I'm trying to clean up my act and not say pussies... for the children. FOR THE CHILDREN.

but in that case, wuss(es) sounds better.

09/13/2012 12:47 PM

5 Likes

Dr.Robuttnik

When I was a kid, I didn't know wussies and pussies were like, different levels of appropriate. It took me screaming on the playground that some guys that wouldn't play me and my friends at 3 on 3 were pussies before some people let me know.

(Edited by author 1 month ago)

09/13/2012 01:43 PM

3 Likes

ColdGottoBe

but they were. PUSSIES.

(I remember asking my mom if fud was a bad word in first grade...I was so, so close).

09/13/2012 01:46 PM

Scruffylove

Elmer Fudd must have been very confusing to you.

09/13/2012 02:22 PM

4 Likes

ColdGottoBe

Scruffylove ha! now that you mention it, I seem to recall my mom mentioning elmer fudd to prove to me that it wasn't a bad word..... and then she said, "just don't say 'fuck.'"

not really

09/13/2012 02:53 PM

Dr.Robuttnik

ColdGottoBe Scruffylove

When we were kids, my cousin (10) and myself (12) were watching Die Hard with his little brother (about 3 or 4, maybe) in the room. For some reason we were REALLY worried that somehow we'd get in trouble for letting him be in the room, because our parents said not to watch it while he was down there. But it was unlikely, because he wasn't paying attention to the tv and there was no way our parents would find out. Then he heard Bruce Willis go, "I'm not the one who just got butt-fucked on national television." and yelled "Butt-fucked!" We obviously freaked out, which of course, just encouraged him. After he kept saying it we realized he was going to keep saying it and get us in trouble. He said it probably like 30 or 40 times before we convinced him the word was actually "bupfutt", by us saying, "Stop saying bupfutt!".

For about three years, he actually said "bupfutt/bupfoot/buttfutt" repeatedly as a sub-in for any curse. He called people that, said it when he dropped something, repeated it under his breath when he was pissed. I remember one time (again, about three years later) he yells "Get out of here, you buttfutts!" to some people he was playing basketball with and a local mom was like, "What did he just say!?" His dad (my uncle) was on hand to meekly reply, "Oh, it's not what you think, it just kind of sounds like it."

Little did he know...

09/13/2012 03:07 PM

8 Likes

ColdGottoBe

oh SHIT. that is funny. you were some creative little buttputters.

I have heard my daughter mumble the word fuck under her breath while playing with her my little ponies, which - honestly - is an indicator of some level success on my part, because at least she isn't using it in anger, as an expletive.

I haven't been able to completely curtail cursing at home. I work at a law firm that literally hired me because I didn't flinch at the big boss's repeated "fuck that shit!"s at the interview, so it can be hard to compartmentalize.

09/13/2012 03:20 PM

2 Likes

ColdGottoBe

and another thought, before I get back to actual work. it's funny we recall these catastrophic cussing-related incidents from childhood. my elmer fudd incident probably occurred 30 years ago. I remember cussing was a really big deal to me, and if my parents (dad) was saying fuck or shit it was reserved for really calamitous moments. I am doubting my daughter will have the same attitude, given the casual ways she's been exposed. I don't think that's a bad thing, just ...different I guess.

09/13/2012 03:49 PM

3 Likes

Dikachu

Are they sure it was "wussies"? With his mumbling it could have easily been "witches" or "Wausau" or "pulchritudinous".

09/13/2012 12:48 PM

18 Likes

LurkyMcLurkerson

Pulchritudinous. The most beautiful word in the English language.

09/13/2012 01:42 PM

2 Likes

ColdGottoBe

is having breasts a precursor to being called pulchritudinous? in theory? in practice? this is a serious question.

09/13/2012 02:15 PM

Mikosqz

"Warsaw".

09/14/2012 04:09 AM

Unreliable Narrator

It was a running joke in Seinfeld's run.

09/13/2012 12:55 PM

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rev

That was "wuss" and it was 20 years ago!

09/13/2012 01:10 PM

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Unreliable Narrator

Did you just call me a wuss? It's still in heavy rotation.

09/13/2012 01:22 PM

cosmicomic

Stacy Keach?

09/13/2012 01:13 PM

ColdGottoBe

I don't know if that's true but it's clearly true

09/13/2012 01:37 PM

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Bender Bukowski

Such a great show. Sad to think the template for Erin went batshite nutty, at least according to Christopher.

09/13/2012 09:57 PM

minya

You're an octowussy

09/13/2012 08:41 PM

IndependentGeorge

Fuck all of you haters, his Christmas album is bugfuck crazy and fucking fantastic.

09/13/2012 12:34 PM

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Brian M

THANK YOU

09/13/2012 12:44 PM

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Albino Horse Eye

I'm with you Georgie. Buncha Scrooge-ass motherfucking grinches up in this bitch, yo.

09/13/2012 12:46 PM

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The UMD

And we are to understand your seriousness through the use of a seemingly unprovoked triple-profanity.

09/13/2012 12:47 PM

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Hear God Laugh

That "Must Be Santa" song and video are both awesome. I don't get why it's used to poke fun of Dylan all the time. Is the "Tight Connection To My Heart" video that hard to find?

09/13/2012 12:54 PM

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KJB

Thank you. Haters have to hate, but Christmas From The Heart is a blast to listen to. It's hardly left my stereo the past couple of Christmases.

09/13/2012 12:57 PM

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Dowd

ALL the best Christmas albums are written by Jews.

Especially the ones that deny the existence of Jesus.

09/13/2012 02:00 PM

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Hear God Laugh

Those classic songs like "Nothing Came Upon A Midnight Clear" and "Hark, The Herald Angels Are Just Fucking With You."

09/13/2012 02:17 PM

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RealityFTW

Sean O'Brien's the best music writer on The AV Club and I'll stand on Keith Phipp's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that.

09/13/2012 12:35 PM

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Chris Traeger

You would think in a post complimenting the guy you could at least spell his name right. It's Shawn O'Brien, by the way.

(Edited by author 1 month ago)

09/13/2012 12:38 PM

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RealityFTW

Dammit. I am now going to rot in hell.

09/13/2012 12:40 PM

Biggus Disqus

I wonder if he's any relation to Shawn O'Neil?

09/13/2012 03:49 PM

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Chris Traeger

Let's not be ridiculous.

09/13/2012 04:05 PM

Big Fat Face

I dunno. That Mary Eekin is pretty good. And please, let's not forget about Justin Heely!

09/13/2012 12:42 PM

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Vervack

I'm partial to that Tim fellow. You know, that wealthy Dutch merchant guy.

Not sure why he writes for the AV Club, when he has that fleet and his import business. I suppose he wants to be know as a man of letters as well as finance.

Also, Alister Whelkie is quite good.

09/13/2012 05:24 PM

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wsvon

Steve Earle is a pussy and wussy for complaining about your plagiarism.

09/13/2012 12:43 PM

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David Martin

I never thought I would hear someone call someone else "motherfuckers" over Timrod's poetry. I guess Bob Dylan is still defying expectations.

09/13/2012 12:35 PM

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Hank Toms

Wait, what did he say? I can never understand this guy.

09/13/2012 12:36 PM

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The missing link to all other Bob Dylan Plagiarisms

http://www.jamesdamiano.yolasite.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21870961)

“Well you have to understand that I’m not a melodist. My songs are either based on old Protestant hymns or Carter Family songs or variations of the blues form. What happens is, I’ll take a song and simply start playing it in my head. That’s the way I meditate". “I wrote ‘Blowin’ in the Wind’ in 10 minutes, just put words to an old spiritual, probably something I learned from Carter Family records. That’s the folk music tradition – you use what has been handed down. ‘The Times They Are A-Changing’ is probably from an old Scottish folk Song.”...."I'll be playing Bob Nolan's 'Tumbling Tumbleweeds,' for instance, in my head constantly -- while I'm driving a car or talking to a person or sitting around or whatever. People will think they are talking to me and I'm talking back, but I'm not. I'm listening to the song in my head. At a certain point, some of the words will change and I'll start writing a song.".......Bob Dylan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21871029)

This will change you're mind

http://bobdylanplagiarisms.yolasite.com/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21875236)

Bob Dylan's Stealing of James Damiano's Songs

No artist can lay claim to the controversy that has surrounded the career of songwriter James Damiano. Thirty two years ago James Damiano began an odyssey that led him into a legal maelstrom with Bob Dylan that, to this day, fascinates the greatest of intellectual minds.

Since auditioning for the legendary CBS Record producer John Hammond, Sr., who influenced the careers of music industry icons Charlie Christian, Billy Holiday, Bob Dylan, Pete Seger, Bruce Springsteen and Stevie Ray Vaughan , James has engaged in a half a billion dollar copyright infringement law suit with Bob Dylan.

As the curtain rises on the stage of deceit we learn that CBS / Sony international recording artist, Bob Dylan not only used songs and lyrics written by James Damiano but also solicited Mr. Damiano's materials for a period of over ten years and eleven months.

As per Judicial filings Bob Dylan's name is credited to the songs. One of those songs is nominated for a Grammy as the best rock song of the year. Ironically the title of that song is Dignity.

http://www.jamesdamiano.yolasite.com/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21876271)

On June 16th 2009 the following letter was sent to Bob Dylan's Attorney Orin Snyder written by James Damiano's Attorney in the Bob Dylan Damiano Plagiarism suit "Robert Church" regarding boxes of James Damiano's songs produced to Orin Snyder during discovery

There were approximately fifteen to twenty five boxes filled with anywhere from 200 to 400 finished and unfinished songs in each box (thirty five years of writing) that were never returned

Dear Mr. Snyder:

I have one other matter. Mr. Damiano informs me that Steven Kramer (James Damiano's lead attorney) had several boxes of songs delivered to Parcher & Hayes during the discovery phase of his case against Dylan. Mr. Kramer never made copies of the documents, since I am presuming he felt pressed to comply with an overdue discovery request. Mr. Damiano informs me that he has never had all the original songs returned to his possession, even though the case is over. If you don’t mind, please explain what you can recall about Mr. Damiano’s song production. Do you still have songs unaccounted for? Can they be returned?

Sincerely Robert Church

See last paragraph in Robert Church's letter below

http://www.jamesdamiano.yolasite.com

See videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBKiTVoWIUI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avr9MIGcXxc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qTqE6gBk5s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#21879778)

http://www.jamesdamiano.yolasite.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#22012651)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2092350&forum_id=2#21897085)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2089661&forum_id=2#22012693)