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Hired law student at $12/hr ONLY to draft motions for sanctions
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Date: April 26th, 2013 9:57 AM Author: floppy vengeful lodge I file a motion for sanctions against EVERY attorney I go against. I hired this law student to become an expert in this area. Just like it's standard to file a motion for summary judgment, I file a motion for sanctions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23080816) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 10:00 AM Author: frisky ticket booth legal warrant For what? Does this in turn ever get you sanctioned for a baseless pleading? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23080829) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 10:06 AM Author: floppy vengeful lodge Nope. This chill dude that works at my office finds every single violation. It's never baseless.
In fact, he took professional responsibility and THREE professional responsibility ELECTIVES.
Especially in civil litigation, theres ALWAYS something that the opposing counsel does that's sanctionable. Oh yeah, you sent me the interrogatories on the 5th? Well the judge in the preliminary conference said the 3rd. SANCTIONS.
Oh yea? Those invoices AREN'T backdated? Did you do your due diligence as an attorney to confirm that? No? SANCTIONS.
We rarely win but it's always a relief when I look on the calendar and we have an appearance to ARGUE our motion for sanctions briefs. |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:00 AM Author: frisky ticket booth legal warrant I like this schtick. Would subscribe to your newsletter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081083) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:01 AM Author: floppy vengeful lodge I already blog about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081091) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 4:55 PM Author: green glittery orchestra pit Motions for sanctions are subject to motions for sanctions.
What happens when you meet your legal doppelganger? |
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Date: December 26th, 2014 7:19 PM Author: Mauve theater stage people who are hurt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#27001872) |
Date: April 26th, 2013 9:58 AM Author: Bat-shit-crazy Space 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23080821) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 9:58 AM Author: Swashbuckling scarlet home ladyboy why do you do this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23080823) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 10:03 AM Author: floppy vengeful lodge B/c biglaw/midlaw attorneys are literally scum. I love to wait for the reply phone call from some aspie 2 years removed from law school. Small firm lawyers LOL at motions for sanctions.
Biglawyer aspies are terrified for some reason. |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 10:24 AM Author: Swashbuckling scarlet home ladyboy yeah, i know i was upset when someone filed a sanctions motion against me when i was in biglaw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23080907) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 10:25 AM Author: floppy vengeful lodge But what's funny (said it below) is that these things NEVER get granted. The standard is SO HIGH.
Shitlawyers, LOL about it when they get it and love it because it's one of the few PERSONAL filings in all of civil litigation and it's usually a fun pissing contest.
Biglawyers are so uptight. |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: Swashbuckling scarlet home ladyboy it's b/c the young atty's don't want to piss off the partner(s) in any way.
I'm so thankful I'm out of that culture. |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 10:29 AM Author: floppy vengeful lodge tcr.
I love working at a small firm. If it wasn't for the outrageous debt, this would be a truly 180 life. |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:27 AM Author: Swashbuckling scarlet home ladyboy how much do you make
what is your debt load |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:28 AM Author: floppy vengeful lodge $68k to start.
$150k debt |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:30 AM Author: Swashbuckling scarlet home ladyboy is that kind of debt soulcrushing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081213) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:32 AM Author: floppy vengeful lodge Absolutely. Life altering.
I have no idea how dudes who didn't get jobs live.
If I give up, it would be easier. I can IBR, get it forgiven.
But I actually want a decent life so I'll do whatever it takes I guess. |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 12:35 PM Author: Learning disabled soul-stirring international law enforcement agency associate cr. associates are terrified that the partner will be pissed about it. and usually he will be. small firm bros are chill and just lol at it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081544) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 9:58 AM Author: spectacular antidepressant drug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23080824) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 10:16 AM Author: trip fiercely-loyal mediation 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23080868) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 10:17 AM Author: lascivious ape stead This is the credited legal strategy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23080872) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 10:23 AM Author: floppy vengeful lodge TCR. All you ever hear is aspie law students afraid of sanctions and malpractice.
LOL judges NEVER grant these things. EVER. Once in a while you'll get lucky. The one time we got lucky was when this aspie kept referring to caselaw whenever the judge asked HIM about HIS conduct. Finally, she just said ENOUGH and ended the argument and we got a favorable decision on ecourts a month later.
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Date: April 26th, 2013 10:25 AM Author: Mustard Adventurous Toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23080916) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 10:26 AM Author: comical rebellious trust fund If you don't win, why do you move for sanctions against OC?
Is it just for the lulz?
If so, do you worry about souring relationships? |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 10:28 AM Author: floppy vengeful lodge LOL at relationships with midlaw/biglaw attorneys.
I move for sanctions DURING the proceeding (most of the time) the SECOND an attorney is late, doesn't do his due diligence, etc.
Never three strikes...you get zero strikes with me.
It's ALWAYS legit too because of my law student bro who makes sure every filing is backed with precedent. One day late on discovery? SANCTIONS. |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:06 AM Author: frisky ticket booth legal warrant One day late? Refine this story bro. There is a duty to consult, which I don't think in any jurisdiction could be done in one day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081104) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:08 AM Author: floppy vengeful lodge Which the judge will address in his opinion on the matter. No duty here. If we've discussed it and the deadline is set, you better get me the discovery by that time. Or I will ask for sanctions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081112) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:08 AM Author: Blue Mind-boggling Yarmulke >Never three strikes...you get zero strikes with me. I'm drunk and woke up my neighbors. |
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Date: April 27th, 2013 12:09 AM Author: Blue Mind-boggling Yarmulke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23086258) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:05 AM Author: slate cheese-eating preventive strike Sounds idiotic. If you don't win you're just wasting the client's money and you're going to ensure that other lawyers never ever cut you any slack when you need it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081100) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:07 AM Author: floppy vengeful lodge LOL at charging clients for this. You have no idea how small firms work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081109) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:25 AM Author: slate cheese-eating preventive strike You're right about that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081191) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:10 AM Author: honey-headed tantric juggernaut This is a nice way to yourself get sanctioned. Rule 11 has that notice requirement which makes it difficult to file frivolous Rule 11 motions, but state equivalents are looser, but then lol at biglaw filing much of anything in state courts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081130) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:13 AM Author: floppy vengeful lodge Like I said, I never file a baseless motion for sanctions. As you know, steve, IRL there is something in EVERY case that's sanctionable.
I also have a side question, mind if I ask? |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:15 AM Author: honey-headed tantric juggernaut Ask away. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081158) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:19 AM Author: floppy vengeful lodge Our printing company for our appeals is TTT. When the record had to be filed, I gave it to them TWO WEEKS before our perfection date.
They ended up filing it at 4:40 the due date. I almost lost my hair. Yet we pay them close to $3,000 to handle the appeal. They also offer us very little advice on the requirements.
I've done a few appeals and at this point, I know the state appellate requirements pretty good. Would it be a HUGE risk for my next appeal to do it myself? Go to kinkos/a printing company and get it printed and bound myself? Save $3000 for the firm and a lot of headaches?
It seems like using a printing company is standard for some reason.
U have any experience on this? |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 4:30 PM Author: floppy vengeful lodge CMON STEVE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23083315) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 4:34 PM Author: fear-inspiring mother main people It fine faggot. I have filed a dozen appeals using kinkos. Sack up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23083334) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 4:36 PM Author: floppy vengeful lodge I'M the dude in the office that wants to do this. The crazy boss says stuff like "OH WELL HOW ON EARTH WILL YOU COMPLY WITH THE PRINTING REQUIREMENTS!!!" as if I can't figure out how to do 1" margins (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23083341) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:14 AM Author: floppy vengeful lodge I also said biglaw/midlaw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081153) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:19 AM Author: floppy vengeful lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081171) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 8:12 PM Author: floppy vengeful lodge True dat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23084690) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:12 AM Author: honey-headed tantric juggernaut Really stupid flame. Also, $12 for a law student is at least $2 too many. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081141) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:13 AM Author: Blue Mind-boggling Yarmulke (steve) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081144) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:13 AM Author: floppy vengeful lodge $15 is the going rate in MFH. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081148) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:16 AM Author: honey-headed tantric juggernaut There are doc reviews being staffed in MFH at $16 an hour with licensed attorneys. I could get a Columbia 3L to lick shit off my carpet for free.
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:20 AM Author: floppy vengeful lodge Bro, I don't know. I mean I worked throughout law school and started at $17 and ended at $22.
I mean, I guess you can get someone to bring coffee to people but if I'm taking time away from school to do REAL legal work and be a devoted employee, I don't think I would have done that for less than $15. |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:22 AM Author: Mustard Adventurous Toaster cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081183) |
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Date: December 26th, 2014 2:15 PM Author: Beady-eyed bat shit crazy striped hyena tanning salon Citation needed Breh. 25 seems to be the low bar. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#27000473) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:14 AM Author: floppy vengeful lodge I need to ask you something though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081149) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:14 AM Author: Mustard Adventurous Toaster (jew) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081151) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:33 AM Author: frisky ticket booth legal warrant Do you file for sanctions over their OBJECTIONS to Discovery?
To you ask the court for any and all other remedies that justice requires?
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:34 AM Author: floppy vengeful lodge No. Not recently or that I recall.
LMAO at our profession where we ALWAYS end our motion with something like that. |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 11:51 AM Author: Cracking Puce Church 180*180
I was worried I might face you as opposing counsel until I looked at the Author line |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 12:51 PM Author: Coral set (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081618) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 12:55 PM Author: chartreuse know-it-all theatre anyone ever wonder what johnsmeyer's real job is? He has to not be really busy to think up such elaborate and creative flames, so probably not biglaw? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081635) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 1:02 PM Author: Clear Sanctuary Mad-dog Skullcap please describe your law student: school range, gpa range, level of hopelessness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081692) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 1:12 PM Author: floppy vengeful lodge median at a t30 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081772) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 1:05 PM Author: aqua passionate blood rage bold shitlaw strategy! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081710) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 1:09 PM Author: fear-inspiring mother main people This has to be flame and of course it is because this is johns meyer. Nothing would fuck your ass quicker in the legal community than this.
Though in atlanta th3re was this raging asshole that not only regulalry did tuis he had a habit of suing the law firm representing the opposing party. The pro of this is that he built a mid size firm full of assholes who got all the crazies who wanted a lawyer who would "really fight for their RIGHTS!" The downside was every lawyer in town hated his fucking guts and would literally pool resources to attempt to destroy him ( oh he sued you huh? Heres some pleadings from when he sued me that take an inconsistent position; here is a motion I won against him for sanctions, etc) He had a nervous breakdown at 58 and just up and flew to california to some mental hospital and his firm dissolved. |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 1:17 PM Author: aqua passionate blood rage how common is it for an attorney to move for sanctions against your client without any justification? they just throw it in their request for relief along with other damages. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081807) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 1:24 PM Author: fear-inspiring mother main people No. And here if they are really asking for sanctions they are also asking for them against the attorney. So I get some certified letter telling me my shit is SO FRIVOLOUS in about half my cases. Mainly big law firms send them to me. I guess they think its real scary. But, as op noted, I just lol. Number of times I have actually been sanctioned=0 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081874) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 1:26 PM Author: floppy vengeful lodge tcr. If I'm flame on this, how do i know so much about these motions and how attorneys think about them? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081903) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 1:29 PM Author: fear-inspiring mother main people Thats a fair comment brother. You clearly know wha5 you are talking about, I just dont believe you are really sending them in every case (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081934) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 1:33 PM Author: floppy vengeful lodge Sometimes I make it a cause of action in the complaint. Therefore, I'm technically suing for sanctions before an attorney files a notice of appearance on the case.
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Date: April 26th, 2013 1:34 PM Author: fear-inspiring mother main people Ty for that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23081965) |
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Date: December 26th, 2014 7:40 PM Author: Aphrodisiac bright nibblets omg. breh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#27001976) |
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Date: April 26th, 2013 1:37 PM Author: comical rebellious trust fund Give lawyer's name, plz (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23082000) |
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Date: May 13th, 2013 2:05 PM Author: floppy vengeful lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23189722) |
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Date: December 26th, 2014 7:18 PM Author: Hairraiser peach dilemma digit ratio ohnoes he took an inconsistent position in another case???? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#27001868) |
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Date: June 25th, 2013 1:19 PM Author: floppy vengeful lodge Update: we won a motion for sanctions. 180 it's on westlaw. LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23471244) |
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Date: June 25th, 2013 1:50 PM Author: Curious Lay Psychic height? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#23471442) |
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Date: June 25th, 2013 1:33 PM Author: Pink base internal respiration "I hired this law student to become an expert in this area."
The Johnsmeyer Motion for Sanctions Post-Juris Doctor Fellowship
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Date: December 26th, 2014 12:59 PM Author: galvanic rusted alpha multi-billionaire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2240478&forum_id=2#27000160) |