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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
irradiated lake trump supporter
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
Amethyst Faggotry
  06/15/18
As I understand it.
brilliant philosopher-king
  06/15/18
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Bronze laughsome dysfunction theater
  06/15/18
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Bronze laughsome dysfunction theater
  02/12/22
they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
Bright Supple Gas Station Pistol
  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
grizzly motley mad cow disease sound barrier
  10/06/21
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irradiated lake trump supporter
  02/12/22
they have no debt as I understand it
Blathering striped hyena menage
  06/15/18
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Bronze laughsome dysfunction theater
  06/15/18
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Rebellious Passionate Multi-billionaire
  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
Blathering striped hyena menage
  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
underhanded garrison doctorate
  06/15/18
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Demanding out-of-control mother sanctuary
  06/15/18
Cr. Thats city janitor money
Bronze laughsome dysfunction theater
  06/15/18
Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
Fishy Bateful National
  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
Avocado hilarious meetinghouse voyeur
  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
Naked Spruce Rehab Wrinkle
  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
Bright Supple Gas Station Pistol
  06/15/18
sounds 180
Blathering striped hyena menage
  06/15/18
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Demanding out-of-control mother sanctuary
  06/15/18
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Rebellious Passionate Multi-billionaire
  06/15/18
https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/myst...
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Bronze laughsome dysfunction theater
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brilliant philosopher-king
  06/15/18
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Rebellious Passionate Multi-billionaire
  06/15/18
https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1
Rebellious Passionate Multi-billionaire
  06/15/18
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Naked Spruce Rehab Wrinkle
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Hateful Vivacious Whorehouse Idea He Suggested
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Rebellious Passionate Multi-billionaire
  02/15/21
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Hateful Vivacious Whorehouse Idea He Suggested
  10/06/21
is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 intera...
irradiated lake trump supporter
  10/06/21
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itty bitty titties and a bob
  01/18/25
omg 260k where do they get off
spectacular shaky potus
  06/15/18
For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
irradiated lake trump supporter
  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
Copper dog poop
  06/15/18
Eat my dick nigger lover
irradiated lake trump supporter
  06/15/18
your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire...
Copper dog poop
  06/15/18
Explain
irradiated lake trump supporter
  06/15/18
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irradiated lake trump supporter
  06/16/18
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irradiated lake trump supporter
  09/04/18
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Hateful Vivacious Whorehouse Idea He Suggested
  06/16/18
yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
onyx wonderful antidepressant drug
  06/15/18
To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
galvanic snowy trailer park
  06/15/18
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irradiated lake trump supporter
  02/12/21
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Emerald sickened chapel
  02/12/21
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Rebellious Passionate Multi-billionaire
  02/15/21
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irradiated lake trump supporter
  10/14/21
I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
exciting smoky boiling water selfie
  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
rambunctious box office
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
irradiated lake trump supporter
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
fragrant bespoke giraffe
  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
irradiated lake trump supporter
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
fragrant bespoke giraffe
  02/12/21
i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
irradiated lake trump supporter
  02/15/21
They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
seedy ceo range
  02/12/21
...
Emerald sickened chapel
  02/12/21
No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
exciting smoky boiling water selfie
  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
seedy ceo range
  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
azure coldplay fan pozpig
  02/12/21
That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner ...
seedy ceo range
  02/12/21
Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
azure coldplay fan pozpig
  02/12/21
(Stevie Brogan)
rambunctious box office
  02/12/21
lol no
mustard boistinker
  02/12/21
how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Clevel...
Pea-brained Lime Chad Stage
  02/15/21
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irradiated lake trump supporter
  06/29/21
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irradiated lake trump supporter
  10/06/21
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Marvelous ticket booth
  10/06/21
that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
aqua useless brakes library
  10/06/21
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irradiated lake trump supporter
  02/12/22


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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: irradiated lake trump supporter

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252934)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: Amethyst Faggotry

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252952)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: brilliant philosopher-king

As I understand it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253562)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: Bronze laughsome dysfunction theater



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: Bronze laughsome dysfunction theater



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Bright Supple Gas Station Pistol

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252972)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: grizzly motley mad cow disease sound barrier

oh we got a legal expert here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231415)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: irradiated lake trump supporter



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Blathering striped hyena menage

they have no debt as I understand it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252979)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: Bronze laughsome dysfunction theater



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Rebellious Passionate Multi-billionaire



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: Blathering striped hyena menage

260k is a huge salary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252984)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: underhanded garrison doctorate

goes a long way in shaker heights

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252989)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Demanding out-of-control mother sanctuary



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Bronze laughsome dysfunction theater

Cr. Thats city janitor money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253068)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Fishy Bateful National

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252986)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: Avocado hilarious meetinghouse voyeur

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935785)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Naked Spruce Rehab Wrinkle

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252995)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Bright Supple Gas Station Pistol

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253002)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Blathering striped hyena menage

sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253004)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Demanding out-of-control mother sanctuary



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: Rebellious Passionate Multi-billionaire



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: charismatic henna theater stage rigor

https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mysterybox.png

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Bronze laughsome dysfunction theater



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: brilliant philosopher-king



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Rebellious Passionate Multi-billionaire



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Rebellious Passionate Multi-billionaire

https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253692)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Naked Spruce Rehab Wrinkle



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: Hateful Vivacious Whorehouse Idea He Suggested



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Rebellious Passionate Multi-billionaire



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
Author: Hateful Vivacious Whorehouse Idea He Suggested



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: irradiated lake trump supporter

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231447)



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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM
Author: itty bitty titties and a bob ((zurich is stained))



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: spectacular shaky potus

omg 260k where do they get off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253074)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: irradiated lake trump supporter

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253521)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: Copper dog poop

p depressing news going into the weekend

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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: irradiated lake trump supporter

Eat my dick nigger lover

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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Copper dog poop

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254215)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: irradiated lake trump supporter

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254517)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: irradiated lake trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36256523)



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: irradiated lake trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36743851)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: Hateful Vivacious Whorehouse Idea He Suggested



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: onyx wonderful antidepressant drug

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253827)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: galvanic snowy trailer park

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254339)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: irradiated lake trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933386)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: Emerald sickened chapel



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Rebellious Passionate Multi-billionaire



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949789)



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: irradiated lake trump supporter



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: exciting smoky boiling water selfie

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933507)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: rambunctious box office

holy shit

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933521)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: irradiated lake trump supporter

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933783)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: fragrant bespoke giraffe

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933832)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: irradiated lake trump supporter

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933852)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: fragrant bespoke giraffe

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933882)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: irradiated lake trump supporter

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949761)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: seedy ceo range

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933851)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: Emerald sickened chapel



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: exciting smoky boiling water selfie

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935758)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: seedy ceo range

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935989)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: azure coldplay fan pozpig

Better partnership odds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935999)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: seedy ceo range

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41936016)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: azure coldplay fan pozpig

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41936043)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: rambunctious box office

(Stevie Brogan)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935792)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: mustard boistinker

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935828)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: Pea-brained Lime Chad Stage

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949811)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: irradiated lake trump supporter



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: irradiated lake trump supporter



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: Marvelous ticket booth



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: aqua useless brakes library

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231452)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: irradiated lake trump supporter



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