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PSA: I will be working in this foetid swamp next summer (D.C.)

Rejection from the firm I wanted to work for in Pittsburgh.
Floppy lay
  10/06/05
Points for use of word (and spelling) foetid. But Pittsb...
frum meetinghouse
  10/06/05
Thanks, but how can a place where I could by a five bedroom ...
Floppy lay
  10/07/05
What kind of a firm in D.C. How the fuck could any firm in P...
ruby erotic market
  10/06/05
good question
adventurous mauve step-uncle's house
  10/06/05
Should I call and ask? I don't understand it either. The onl...
Floppy lay
  10/07/05
What type of DC firm? (Size, rank, practice, whatever you w...
ruby erotic market
  10/07/05
I am between two firms. One is top 40 and has a reputation f...
Floppy lay
  10/07/05
hmm, jones day or akin gump-top 40?
Razzmatazz haunting location
  10/07/05
I don't want to play guessing games, but no.
Floppy lay
  10/07/05
Great guesses!
ruby erotic market
  10/07/05
I have a thread about choosing between a top 25 that is not ...
ruby erotic market
  10/07/05
Yeah--it isn't just prestige though. I think the people at t...
Floppy lay
  10/07/05
I don't speak German because I love freedom. But yeah, I ...
ruby erotic market
  10/07/05
Sometimes I think I don't care and other times I care a lot....
Floppy lay
  10/07/05
Ooo! Me too.
ruby erotic market
  10/07/05
I would be very happy working in your "swamp."
azure old irish cottage
  10/06/05
Is that a sexual innuendo?
frum meetinghouse
  10/06/05
Me too. Oops. I was too stupid to apply for jobs there.
ruby erotic market
  10/06/05
I'm preparing my apps there as we speak. But I'm too stup...
azure old irish cottage
  10/06/05
Yes, Little Fish, come to DC. Come to me, Little Fish. Come ...
deranged locale foreskin
  10/06/05
Great, I even have a stalker waiting for me.
azure old irish cottage
  10/06/05
It seems a little late to be starting in a primary market.
ruby erotic market
  10/06/05
I have no choice.
azure old irish cottage
  10/07/05
Have you heard back from anything in Chicago yet?
ruby erotic market
  10/07/05
Nope. Not done sending everything out yet. Classes hav...
azure old irish cottage
  10/07/05
how are you getting grades now? We only get one grade at the...
Floppy lay
  10/07/05
Seminar classes.
azure old irish cottage
  10/07/05
I've gotten dinged by almost all the 15 or so Chicago firm a...
ruby erotic market
  10/07/05
Like Lorelei at Penn, you are singlhandedly damaging your en...
Startled Talented Jap
  10/07/05
I'm not even close to being at the bottom (more like median)...
azure old irish cottage
  10/07/05
Do you have "RAGE" tatooed backwards on your foreh...
ruby erotic market
  10/07/05
You'd think, but no.
azure old irish cottage
  10/07/05
Sounds like you're this year's KristenMc/MonkeyFuckingScribe...
Startled Talented Jap
  10/07/05
I have said this many times.
azure old irish cottage
  10/07/05
When you start sending resumes to an entirely new market, ho...
talking stag film
  10/07/05
Straight down NALP for a given city.
azure old irish cottage
  10/07/05
you mean you apply to every firm in the NALP guide? How many...
talking stag film
  10/07/05
There are like 65 for Chicago, 140 or so DC... Grand total ...
azure old irish cottage
  10/07/05
No, its not hundreds for anywhere but NYC I don't think. ...
ruby erotic market
  10/07/05
It's good that you are the meanest fish. You'll need to be m...
Floppy lay
  10/07/05
That's really not a problem. I think the bigger problem...
azure old irish cottage
  10/07/05
Do your best impersonation of The Nicest, Smartest Fish.
Floppy lay
  10/07/05
I try, I try...
azure old irish cottage
  10/07/05
YOU CAN NEVER ESCAPE SANDAL CITY!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHA...
deranged locale foreskin
  10/06/05
I too will be in DC. Just accepted an offer yesterday. Of c...
talking stag film
  10/07/05
I guess that fits your name. Please list three convincing re...
Floppy lay
  10/07/05
If you're already there and don't like it, nothing I can say...
talking stag film
  10/07/05
I just feel like I have to be missing something.
Floppy lay
  10/07/05
Unhappy people generally find reasons to be unhappy anywhere...
talking stag film
  10/07/05
It isn't. I am very happy. I am happy here, eventhough I hat...
Floppy lay
  10/07/05
So, what you're saying is, you don't want to live in a big c...
talking stag film
  10/07/05
Well, I suppose, but if I had to live in a big city, I'd rat...
Floppy lay
  10/07/05
dc based firm, or out of town firm?
Slap-happy ocher headpube newt
  10/07/05
firms don't seem to care and sort of encourage ppl
Razzmatazz haunting location
  10/07/05
which firms are these that you speak of
Slap-happy ocher headpube newt
  10/07/05
...
Razzmatazz haunting location
  10/07/05
i see...a friend of mine started at wilmer two weeks ago...t...
Slap-happy ocher headpube newt
  10/07/05
I'm not sure that distinguishes them from most good firms.
talking stag film
  10/07/05
Exactly.
Slap-happy ocher headpube newt
  10/07/05
...
Razzmatazz haunting location
  10/07/05
LilyoA: e-mail me NavinRJohnson76@hotmail.com
Bat-shit-crazy multi-billionaire stage
  10/07/05
why?
Floppy lay
  10/07/05
B/c I want to ask you something. I am a GULC student.
Bat-shit-crazy multi-billionaire stage
  10/07/05
I don't have an anonymous email account anymore.
Floppy lay
  10/07/05
...
Bat-shit-crazy multi-billionaire stage
  10/07/05
Thanks.
Floppy lay
  10/07/05
a friend of mine started work at kirkpatrick & lockhart,...
Slap-happy ocher headpube newt
  10/07/05
It wasn't and I'm not surprised.
Floppy lay
  10/07/05
i really liked their DC office, and thought I had a smashing...
talking stag film
  10/07/05
their corporate group is dead. he spent 3 weeks reading non...
Slap-happy ocher headpube newt
  10/07/05
What people fail to realize is that your primary interaction...
Bat-shit-crazy multi-billionaire stage
  10/07/05


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Date: October 6th, 2005 7:27 PM
Author: Floppy lay

Rejection from the firm I wanted to work for in Pittsburgh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3988576)





Date: October 6th, 2005 9:08 PM
Author: frum meetinghouse

Points for use of word (and spelling) foetid.

But Pittsburgh is far worse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3989302)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:00 PM
Author: Floppy lay

Thanks, but how can a place where I could by a five bedroom detached house in a great neighborhood be far worse?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994219)





Date: October 6th, 2005 9:10 PM
Author: ruby erotic market

What kind of a firm in D.C. How the fuck could any firm in Pittsburg possibly have rejected you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3989309)





Date: October 6th, 2005 9:12 PM
Author: adventurous mauve step-uncle's house

good question



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3989318)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:02 PM
Author: Floppy lay

Should I call and ask? I don't understand it either. The only thing I can think is that when they asked, "So you are only looking in Pittsburgh?" I admitted to also looking in DC, but explained in detail about how much I want to come home, blah, blah, blah. I was rejected by two Pgh firms and accepted by one. The one I really wanted to work for only hires 2 people for the Summer, so that could be the issue too I guess, but come ON.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994234)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:04 PM
Author: ruby erotic market

What type of DC firm? (Size, rank, practice, whatever you want / don't want to say)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994248)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:09 PM
Author: Floppy lay

I am between two firms. One is top 40 and has a reputation for being not so friendly. The other is top 60 and has a reputation for being excedingly nice. I think I could find happiness at either. If I go to the nice one, I'd probably do corporate transactional work, at the not nice one, probably white collar crime & foreign corrupt practices act stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994291)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:11 PM
Author: Razzmatazz haunting location

hmm, jones day or akin gump-top 40?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994320)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:12 PM
Author: Floppy lay

I don't want to play guessing games, but no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994335)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:13 PM
Author: ruby erotic market

Great guesses!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994348)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:19 PM
Author: ruby erotic market

I have a thread about choosing between a top 25 that is not so freindly, a top 35 that may or may not be freindly and a barely vault that is, as best as I can tell, very freindly. It is difficult to check pointless prestige whoring.

I think in your case though, the difference is small enough you chould go where you want.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994397)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:30 PM
Author: Floppy lay

Yeah--it isn't just prestige though. I think the people at the not so nice place are amazing as far as their qualifications go and the work seems really interesting. The other people have slightly less amazing credentials and slightly less interesting work, but overall, I think they are more like me as far as personality goes. The good thing is that I can use German in both places, which is somewhat important to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994514)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:32 PM
Author: ruby erotic market

I don't speak German because I love freedom.

But yeah, I have some of the same concerns.

I'd rather work on the Sprint/Nextel merger than buying a consortium of pig farms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994534)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:36 PM
Author: Floppy lay

Sometimes I think I don't care and other times I care a lot. This is the main problem for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994560)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:40 PM
Author: ruby erotic market

Ooo!

Me too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994592)





Date: October 6th, 2005 9:14 PM
Author: azure old irish cottage

I would be very happy working in your "swamp."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3989324)





Date: October 6th, 2005 9:19 PM
Author: frum meetinghouse

Is that a sexual innuendo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3989363)





Date: October 6th, 2005 9:30 PM
Author: ruby erotic market

Me too.

Oops. I was too stupid to apply for jobs there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3989421)





Date: October 6th, 2005 9:43 PM
Author: azure old irish cottage

I'm preparing my apps there as we speak.

But I'm too stupid to get an offer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3989495)





Date: October 6th, 2005 9:46 PM
Author: deranged locale foreskin

Yes, Little Fish, come to DC. Come to me, Little Fish. Come to me....

BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3989526)





Date: October 6th, 2005 9:49 PM
Author: azure old irish cottage

Great, I even have a stalker waiting for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3989543)





Date: October 6th, 2005 10:30 PM
Author: ruby erotic market

It seems a little late to be starting in a primary market.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3989849)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:00 PM
Author: azure old irish cottage

I have no choice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994223)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:05 PM
Author: ruby erotic market

Have you heard back from anything in Chicago yet?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994258)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:07 PM
Author: azure old irish cottage

Nope. Not done sending everything out yet.

Classes have been holding me up. I've gotten As on everything I've gotten back this semester though...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994270)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:09 PM
Author: Floppy lay

how are you getting grades now? We only get one grade at the end.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994301)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:12 PM
Author: azure old irish cottage

Seminar classes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994333)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:12 PM
Author: ruby erotic market

I've gotten dinged by almost all the 15 or so Chicago firm apps I mail bombed back in the middle of September. And contacted by none.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994325)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:07 PM
Author: Startled Talented Jap

Like Lorelei at Penn, you are singlhandedly damaging your entire school's prestige with your inability to find employment despite not being in the very bottom of the class.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994275)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:11 PM
Author: azure old irish cottage

I'm not even close to being at the bottom (more like median) and I have a ton of extras.

Listen, its not like I haven't been making an effort. I went through 45+ screening interviews and sent out resumes through the collection program.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994315)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:13 PM
Author: ruby erotic market

Do you have "RAGE" tatooed backwards on your forehead?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994342)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:14 PM
Author: azure old irish cottage

You'd think, but no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994356)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:23 PM
Author: Startled Talented Jap

Sounds like you're this year's KristenMc/MonkeyFuckingScribe. It had to happen to someone. Congrats!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994429)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:30 PM
Author: azure old irish cottage

I have said this many times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994515)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:11 PM
Author: talking stag film

When you start sending resumes to an entirely new market, how do you do it? Do you really try for the Vault firms, hoping for a hail mary? Or do you look to lesser firms? Do you try to focus on firms who didnt come to NU so you don't have to explain why you didnt bid on them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994313)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:12 PM
Author: azure old irish cottage

Straight down NALP for a given city.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994331)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:13 PM
Author: talking stag film

you mean you apply to every firm in the NALP guide? How many is that?! Hundreds?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994343)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:14 PM
Author: azure old irish cottage

There are like 65 for Chicago, 140 or so DC... Grand total mail = hundreds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994360)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:14 PM
Author: ruby erotic market

No, its not hundreds for anywhere but NYC I don't think.

Chicago was like 60 or 80. I bet DC or LA is about the same.

A place like Cleveland might be 20. St. Louis 15.

EDIT: Apparently I was wrong about DC. But whatever, you get the point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994362)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:04 PM
Author: Floppy lay

It's good that you are the meanest fish. You'll need to be mean to make it here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994243)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:05 PM
Author: azure old irish cottage

That's really not a problem.

I think the bigger problem is that I'll need to get an offer to make it there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994250)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:10 PM
Author: Floppy lay

Do your best impersonation of The Nicest, Smartest Fish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994306)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:13 PM
Author: azure old irish cottage

I try, I try...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994347)





Date: October 6th, 2005 9:45 PM
Author: deranged locale foreskin

YOU CAN NEVER ESCAPE SANDAL CITY!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3989514)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:09 PM
Author: talking stag film

I too will be in DC. Just accepted an offer yesterday. Of course, I only applied to DC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994292)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:11 PM
Author: Floppy lay

I guess that fits your name. Please list three convincing reasons that I should be happy here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994311)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:12 PM
Author: talking stag film

If you're already there and don't like it, nothing I can say will change that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994328)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:14 PM
Author: Floppy lay

I just feel like I have to be missing something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994354)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:19 PM
Author: talking stag film

Unhappy people generally find reasons to be unhappy anywhere they are. Hopefully that's not you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994396)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:28 PM
Author: Floppy lay

It isn't. I am very happy. I am happy here, eventhough I hate this place. Hating this place doesn't keep me from having fun. The issue is that I want a house, I want good cheap, restaurants, good grocery stores, fewer self-important social climbers, a better art scene, more nature, less trafic. Everything that is good here is old as far as I can see, which makes it a great place to visit, but not as interesting to live in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994490)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:35 PM
Author: talking stag film

So, what you're saying is, you don't want to live in a big city. Because pricey, trafficy, not so much nature, etc, are characteristic of every major city in the country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994556)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:37 PM
Author: Floppy lay

Well, I suppose, but if I had to live in a big city, I'd rather it be one in which exciting things happen besides politics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994570)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:15 PM
Author: Slap-happy ocher headpube newt

dc based firm, or out of town firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994370)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:13 PM
Author: Razzmatazz haunting location
Subject: firms don't seem to care and sort of encourage ppl

to leave after 2-3 years to goto gov't or something like that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994349)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:16 PM
Author: Slap-happy ocher headpube newt

which firms are these that you speak of

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994374)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:18 PM
Author: Razzmatazz haunting location
Subject: i don't know, wilmer seemed to be a big fan of it



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994392)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:22 PM
Author: Slap-happy ocher headpube newt

i see...a friend of mine started at wilmer two weeks ago...the only thing they seem to be a fan of is working the hell out of the attorneys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994423)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:24 PM
Author: talking stag film

I'm not sure that distinguishes them from most good firms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994440)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:24 PM
Author: Slap-happy ocher headpube newt

Exactly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994443)





Date: October 7th, 2005 5:38 PM
Author: Razzmatazz haunting location
Subject: ha, except the one you'll be working at, fool



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3995036)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:28 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy multi-billionaire stage

LilyoA: e-mail me

NavinRJohnson76@hotmail.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994491)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:31 PM
Author: Floppy lay

why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994522)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:33 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy multi-billionaire stage

B/c I want to ask you something. I am a GULC student.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994538)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:34 PM
Author: Floppy lay

I don't have an anonymous email account anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994551)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:37 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy multi-billionaire stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994569)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:38 PM
Author: Floppy lay

Thanks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994582)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:41 PM
Author: Slap-happy ocher headpube newt

a friend of mine started work at kirkpatrick & lockhart, and after 3 weeks, walked down the to HR office and said "today is my last day."

so if that was your dream firm, don't sweat it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994605)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:42 PM
Author: Floppy lay

It wasn't and I'm not surprised.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994617)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:43 PM
Author: talking stag film

i really liked their DC office, and thought I had a smashing screening interview. It was my most surprising non-callback. But they have a rep of being one of the better QofL firms, don't they? I wonder what went wrong with your friend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994621)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:45 PM
Author: Slap-happy ocher headpube newt

their corporate group is dead. he spent 3 weeks reading non-fiction books at his desk, and finally decided he was wasting his time.

one of my friends said the on campus screener from K&L-DC was amazing/awesome/cool, and didn't get a callback, and a another friend who did a callback said the people there seemed miserable. who knows.

whoever does the OCI is just really engaging, i guess.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994636)





Date: October 7th, 2005 4:45 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy multi-billionaire stage

What people fail to realize is that your primary interaction will be with two or so partners. So, in a firm of say 200 partners, the overall experience might be above average but an individual associate or a particular practice group might be horrible experience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=273792&forum_id=2#3994637)