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🚨🚨 OFFICIAL 9th Cir Newsom v Trump Oral Argument Thread 🚨🚨
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Date: June 17th, 2025 2:55 PM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEitAzKSInI (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739306&forum_id=2#49024801) |
Date: June 17th, 2025 2:58 PM Author: '"''"''''''''"""'" Prediction: Trump is allowed to harass and terrorize his own citizens with the national guard because he's mad at democrat leaders but he CAN'T deploy the Maries (second part will be heard next week) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739306&forum_id=2#49024816) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 3:01 PM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, here we goooooo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739306&forum_id=2#49024834) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 3:02 PM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, that's a lot of white males (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739306&forum_id=2#49024838) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 3:07 PM Author: richard clock judge sung with the hitachi going below the desk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739306&forum_id=2#49024859) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 3:08 PM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, she's biding her time so far.
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Date: June 17th, 2025 3:11 PM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, rough sledding for DOJ lawyer so far on the issue of reviewability.
the court so far is pressing DOJ on absurd hypos where the POTUS has no reason whatsoever to do something and then he does something drastic.
still going over absurd hypos. why don't they get down to the issues at hand? finally moving on to procedural issue. called the federal misstep a mere "foot fault." judge agreed with DOJ that USDC judge didn't say what the proper procedure should have been.
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Date: June 17th, 2025 3:20 PM Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,. Because that's all these shitlib judges have. They conjure up all these absurd hypos as if they're relevant. Remember that DC court bitch who said Trump doesn't have presidential immunity because he could, theoretically, call up SEAL Team 6 and have them assassinate all his political enemies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739306&forum_id=2#49024916) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 3:22 PM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, tbf, the last two lines of inquiry have helped DOJ.
they've moved on to Posse Commitatuts, which DOJ says is not presently at issue, per the USDC and the State's failure to appeal that.
the question to DOJ about 10th Amendment was a friendly softball which DOJ handled successfully.
DOJ now racking up points by describing the facts on the street on LA.
Sung silent so far.
wow, DOJ finished and Sung didn't ask DOJ even one question. she's the clear lib vote, right? |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 3:28 PM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, CA lawyer stiffly reading his opening.
to be sure, there has been some unrest ....
Trump is diverting wildfire protection ... (???) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 3:32 PM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Court focuses on page 23 of the order which suggests that Turmp is powerless to act unless he has no other way to enforce law and protect.
CA lawyer: comes close to conceding the point. ouch.
Court presses again on the deference point.
CA lawyer: today we'd allow courts to push back harder because Con law is implicated and that's for courts.
btw, Bennett, perhaps the swing vote, hammers CA. Sung: finally speaks up and HAMMERS CA. she's the lib vote so my guess is that Breyer is going to be reversed 3-0.
CA lawyer: sure give Trump deference but Trump's decision is so extreme and Trump needs to justify it more.
Miller: the precedents kill CA don't they?
CA lawyer: don't rely on older cases! because of political question doctrine and the norm of disliking use of military domestically. [weak sauce]
CA lawyer: POTUS can't go full extreme because of moderate damages. POTUS needs to justify more.
Bennett: POTUS needs to consider lesser measures? where does that come from?
CA lawyer: [weak sauce] POTUS most consider lesser steps before taking extreme ones. consider the Amicus brief by military officers about dangers of military acting domestically. it's a risk.
Sung: military amicus brief is policy and the brief didn't say POTUS couldn't do that? CA lawyer: well the danger should inform the court's interpretation.
Court is now letting him ramble unpresuasively. it's the like the Mercy Rule in softball except that he gets to keep spinning the wheels.
CA lawyer: argues the supplmental declarations and makes a policy and tactical argument. says Newsom is hustling and working hard!
Bennett: hold still while i dunk on your ass.
MIller: on procedural point,
Bennett: where does the law require Newsom's consultation and/or consent?
CA lawyer: process requires Gov's consent or at least consultation because it says "through the Governor"
Miller: your reading is bullshit, isn't it?
Miller: suppose you have to inform the Gov, why isn't informing the adjutant of the Gov enough?
Sung: we're not limited to considering what Trump invoked, right?
CA lawyer: THINK ABOUT THE WILDFIRES AND DRUG INTERDICTION! |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 3:37 PM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, CA is toast. seems like a 3-0 vote for Trump. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739306&forum_id=2#49024995) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 3:40 PM Author: Wes Scantlin Sung is NOT impressed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739306&forum_id=2#49025007) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 3:40 PM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, cr. CA's only hoap was her + Bennett.
they're getting neither. |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 4:06 PM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Shumate's rebuttal:
case law is clear. there is civil unrest targeting law enforcement by the federal government. there is no duty to consult with Newsom.
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